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Posted on 11/20/2012 10:01:23 AM PST by patriot08
I think that the results from this election appear as they do because there was a massive, unprecedented amount of vote fraud that took place. Unfortunately, where Democrats are concerned, you tend to expect that a warping of the true results of an election will take place. Nevertheless, vote fraud is not something that can easily be accounted for in pre-election polling and prognostication. Make no mistakethis election was defrauded, and stolen, by the Democrats on a massive scale. Either that, or math has stopped working.
Sorry folks, this election was stolen, which means Obama is not legitimately the President of the United States, birth certificate or no birth certificate.
Another way you can tell that fraud took place? Look at the discrepancy between the type of election that had to have taken place to get the results we had, and the kind of election that actually did take place.
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As long as we blame losses on voter fraud (I’m not even the slightest bit convinced), we are done. We will complain until 2016, gripe about the GOP elite and their idiot pundits, and then dutifully nominate whatever feckless fool they put before us ... again.
Blaming someone, or something else, for our problems is the LibTard approach to life. I would love to see us be positive about the conservative virtues of governing rather than the schoolyard “the ball hit the leaf on the tree so it didn’t count” BS. Alas, I am not hopeful we can pull from this death spiral of conspiracy theories.
democrats cheat. Media covers up for them. Business as usual.
So we should ignore the busloads of Somalians in Ohio?
It simply defies common sense for:
Thank you for your informative post
Polls indicated that Romney was going to win the election. The economy is close to Great Depression era conditions, and unemployment is almost as high as when Obama entered office. Economic conditions became so dire after Obama took office it prompted the rise of an entire new movement, the Tea Party.
Presidents rarely win reelection when the economy is in the tank.
So how did Romney lose a race that numerous reputable polls and pundits predicted would be an easy win, based on historical patterns?
Massive voter fraud.
There are massive reports of criminal activity
(not mischief, not shenanigans, as many term the fraud- but CRIMINAL ACTIVITY) going on all over the U.S during the presidential election.
Reports of machines changing votes from Romney to Obama, eyewitness reports of Republican poll watchers who observed busloads of non-English speaking Somalians in Ohio being instructed to vote Obama- the list is endless.
Romney lost because of this, not any other reason.
Nobody could have won against the fraud planned and perpetrated by the Obama Machine.
We can not wait for 2014 and 2016 to regroup and figure out new strategies. By then it will be too late. The Marxist/Muslim usurper will have completed his planned distruction of America.
Thats what people fail to understand.
Silence in the face of evil is itself evil. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act.
What you can do:
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Sign their petition- over 99,000 and counting -cards, email
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I usually reject conspiracy theories but Obama’s re-election makes NO SENSE based on his record, the lack of enthusiasm of his base, the enthusiasm of the Repubs, the polling of independents, etc. All it would take is to pad a few thousand votes in the right states and remove some Romney votes and you swing the election. If it is done subtlely it would not be detected. The argument against them stealing this election is that I also would have expected the RATS to have been swept out of the house and senate in much greater numbers than they were. If Obama had been reelected but the RATS crushed in the house and senate that would be strong evidence of fraud.
The 56 divisions (not precincts) in Philly were out of 1700. To compare, you would have to look at the number of similarly sized pools in Utah, Nevada, Idaho, etc that voted 100% Romney. There were probably fewer than 56 of those, and that would point to at least some very good coaching in Philly so that nobody made a mistake. But 400 black voters out of 400 choosing the black guy without a mistake repeated 56 times out of 1000 or so (black divisions) is not impossible but would require "coaching" IMO.
We had counties in Ohio, Florida and elsewhere turning out more voters than...
If that is true, those will be easy to verify, so please name them.
Particularly in light of widespread reports of software switching votes . . . and only from Romney to Obama.
Doesn't sound likely. I have heard reports of the reverse.
Compare and contrast precincts from across America to 2008.
If there are specific contrasts please point out some.
Not really correct. His black base was very enthusiastic in Virginia where I observed it. Probably every black person in my county (5% black) was at the polls as opposed to many whites not bothering to show up.
I’m usually tolerant of conspiracy theories inasmuch as they are harmless. This one seems pretty toothless, too. I wish just one of the authors of these things would man up and prove it in court, even a friendly republican appointee’s court. Alas it doesn’t seem to be happening. All smoke and no fire.
Large rallies seem like they should be telling but are usually not very scientific indicators of election results. At least I personally noticed more Obama bumper stickers and lawn signs than support for Romney but Mitt still won this area by 30 points. And I live in Indiana where they are very serious about ID and fraud is nearly impossible.
We The People can provide the fire.
Silence is consent.
If we let this blatant voter fraud pass, we are no better than a banana republic.
The county in Florida which Rep. Allen West was contesting had more voter turnout than voters. Pre-election threads detailed others in Ohio.
Even a black guy they interviewed in Philly admitted they couldn't get the kind of turn-out they claimed when they were giving away free cheese.
There was a reason these precincts refused to admit Republican election observers or judges. These were also detailed in the threads the day of the election.
Reasonable rules should be if you don't allow credentialed observers or opposition election judges to certify proper conduct, then your vote totals cannot be mixed with or added to any others.
There are many deceived people amongst us. Many do not think anything amiss.
We cannot depend on anyone else doing what needs to be be done! We must do this ourselves, because Iran is about to go Nuclear and America about to go insolvent. Either WE act to save America or it will be lost. Print up this image and post it all over then get ready to march on Washington!
Sorry, that doesn't jive with this: http://enight.elections.myflorida.com/CountyReportingStatus/ No county with more than 83%. The county that West was contesting (St. Lucie) had 70% turnout.
The Philly Romney zero vote streak means there was at least some coaching there. Kicking out the Republican observers makes it all but certain there was something like that. For the rest of your allegations, they seem to be as weak as your Florida allegation.
When I click through the Patriot08 links I get to mostly link pool websites. I click those and get to conservative news sites (mostly legit). But those typically link to a new story which points out what a mess the Ohio rolls are, but can't equate that to fraud or a reasonable potential. DId those inactive voters still on the rolls in Ohio come out and vote? Nobody can really say. A bogus voter would still have to produce a form of ID with an address (e.g. bank statement) so the bar isn't very high. But unlike Philly I assume there were R observers there.
Bottom line is there is some evidence of fraud in the Philly results that could be coaching or worse. There is a lot of innuendo and some false allegations (e.g. yours about Florida). It is fairly obvious that despite some fraud we lost this election square (without the fair). Eliminating the fraud, such as I have seen, would not have elected Romney. My Virginia observations bear this out.
your obamavoterfraud link contains this item: BREAKING: St. Lucie County, Florida Had 141.1% Turnout; Obama Won County but the link I posted above shows 70% and took maybe 10 minutes to locate. I assume a lot of the rest of that site lacks rudimentary fact checking as well.
Thank you so much for all your posts and work here regarding election fraud.
I wrote, signed, called and tried to bump threads to get this issue noticed by all.
I too believe this election was stolen. I resent having any conversation having to do with “what do conservatives do now?”, without first admitting and accepting the vast amount of fraud that just occurred.
What we do now is everything possible to stop this fraud from happening in the first place. Try to stop this election from being certified. And push conservative values even more next time. No pandering to the illegal aliens, no pandering to those that want hand-outs, and no pandering to people who pigeon hole Americans into groups.
Easy peazy, lemon squeezy.. right?
IF there is real voter fraud, then NOW is the time for the GOP to fight it. If not, then yes, I agree, time to suck it up and move on. What I see is no one from the GOP camp seems interested.
With all due respect, bulls***.
Is it a “libtard” approach to life to ignore crime? To let criminal acts go unnoticed, unpunished, and therefore allow them to continue and in fact, encourage them?
With massive election fraud, the Perfect Candidate could run and still lose. And, in fact, will; unless the Republicans get some BALLS and moral courage and adhere to Constitutional principles and the rule of law!
There is more than one reason for our problems:
1. The commies run most all institutions especially the MSM.
2. They are criminal SOBS and not only fight dirty but will fight dirtier and dirtier IF THEY ARE NOT STOPPED.
3. The R party is a bunch of self serving eunuchs who will not stand up for the Constitution and the rule of law, other than a very few such as Allen West.
Ignoring the first two parts of the problem ensures continued defeat and the continuance of the third.
Your use of the “conspiracy theories” nonsense shows that you are part of the problem and in fact I’ve noticed your comments over time; IMHO you probably voted for 0moslem.
I have zero evidence of voter fraud. My districts are squeaky clean Midwesterners.
But, apparently, like all too many "conservatives," he implicitly accepts the criminal activities of the fraudsters as if we just have to take them lying down. It's OK for him to discuss substantive changes that should be made within the GOP - which are well taken - but he doesn't come up with any specific proposals to safeguard the integrity of the elections, which he knows was compromised. Such ideas seem to be a taboo in many "conservative" circles:
So here are a few:
(1) Photo voter ID cards with bar codes which are swiped every time they are used at an election (similar to the technology used at ATMs). Preferably this bar code info will be processed by a national voter data center - although in the alternative it could work on a state level as well. The main function of this technology would be to prevent the holder of the card from voting more than once in an election. The photo feature would tend to prevent fraudsters from using someone else's card.
(2) Documentation of identity and of citizenship and residence before allowing voter registration.
(3) Eliminate early voting.
(4) Eliminate same day registration.
(5) Eliminate "Motor Voter."
(6) Periodic purging of voter registration lists to eliminate those who have died, who have moved, or are otherwise ineligible.
(7) Criminal prosecutions and convictions of fraudsters and various other cheats.
(8) Technical upgrades of electronic vote counting and tabulation devices to make them more tamper-proof and more difficult to hack. (If necessary, get rid of optical scanners and go back to paper ballots which are counted visually with representatives of all candidates present. Better delays in reporting the results than having the results determined by cheating.)
BTW, the author correctly comments on the low intelligence levels of all too many voters. One way of upgrading that general intelligence level of the voting population is to make it a little more complex and perhaps a little more inconvenient to cast a ballot. That would tend to weed out more of the lower IQ participants.
Let the lying and cheating 'Rats complain all they want; the fact is that they have stealthily set up an electoral system which aids and abets their criminal activities.
Remember how the dems threw such a fit when Gov. Scott ordered purging of the voter rolls in Florida? And lawsuits filed against states who passed laws for voters to produce IDs? I agree with all of your ideas but history tells us it ain’t never gonna happen and that dems will continue to win by fraud. Ask Allen West.
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