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A New Direction for Conservatives (pt 1)
My View of The World ^ | Nvember 22, 2012 | James P. Willis

Posted on 11/22/2012 6:35:12 AM PST by possum john

On Christmas Eve of last year, I wrote an article expressing my disgust and frustration with the Republican Party. Now, almost a year later, the GOP has once again proven that it has become a completely ineffective vehicle with which to advance the conservative agenda. The election is over, and now is the time to start the process of choosing a suitable replacement.

This is not a step I take lightly. For more than 30 years I have been a loyal Republican, serving in positions within the party as well as being a vocal supporter of GOP candidates and the party itself. For years I excused the failings of the party and did what I could to bring about change from within. During that time it became increasingly clear that the party organization was more interested in playing political games for the sake of winning elections rather than advancing an agenda. It also became increasingly clear that they were not even very good at playing the game. The fact that the GOP was unable to win an election against the undisputed worst President in modern history is testament to need for new direction.

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To: blueunicorn6

Elections aren’t horseshoes or hand grenades. Regardless of the margin, Obama won.

We do have to understand our enemies, and the first step is understanding who they are. The Progressives in the GOP are just as much of an enemy as the Progressives in the DNC.


21 posted on 11/22/2012 10:48:47 AM PST by possum john
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To: possum john

To be honest, in every election since Reagan left office, the Progressives won. Conservatives haven’t had a genuine victory since 1984.

We have tried to convince black voters to abandon their blind allegience to the DNC because the DNC has done nothing to help them, but we continue the same type of relationship with the RNC. I think it’s time to take our own advice.


22 posted on 11/22/2012 10:57:14 AM PST by deaconjim (Because He lives...)
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To: deaconjim
You are not addressing my post. We both know that starting a third party only assures our destruction. We have to take over the Republican Party and make it into a Tea Partyesque Conservative Party. Will it happen tomorrow? No. Is every one of our candidates going to be Reaganesque? Hell no. But,we do have Marco, Sarah and even Paul Ryan out there. We do have some great talent in the wings.Also try and remember no one is 100% conservative We are well on the way to a conservative party. This is not the time to get soft. We have about a year to go viral on rinos. Its now time to do so.For me I would start with Christie and Powell.They can leave the party tomorrow as far as I am concerned.
23 posted on 11/22/2012 11:47:17 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: rodguy911

That carrot has been dangling from the stick so long that it’s dried up and turning brown. The Prgressives are too well entrenched. We can waste our time fighting it, or we can expend our energy building a new party. We’ve spent so much time fighting the Progressives in our own party that we’ve let the Progressives in the DNC run rampant. I’m less interested in fixing the problems in the GOP than I am with fixing the problems in our country.


24 posted on 11/22/2012 11:56:21 AM PST by deaconjim (Because He lives...)
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To: broken_arrow1
Let's Roll...

Shall I pass around a sign-up sheet?

25 posted on 11/22/2012 12:15:31 PM PST by deaconjim (Because He lives...)
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To: deaconjim

Well good luck with all that your gonna need it. At best you can elect a lot of democrats before the country is totally in the tank and it won’t matter what you do.


26 posted on 11/22/2012 12:19:24 PM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: rodguy911

The GOP seems quite adept at electing Democrats. My goal is to try to do something different.


27 posted on 11/22/2012 12:33:24 PM PST by deaconjim (Because He lives...)
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To: deaconjim

http://www.selfgovernment.us/about.html


28 posted on 11/22/2012 12:36:00 PM PST by EternalVigilance (America's creed: Our rights come from God, not men. Governments exist to secure those rights.)
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To: possum john

BFL


29 posted on 11/22/2012 12:41:29 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: EternalVigilance

Thank you, this does look interesting.


30 posted on 11/22/2012 12:44:09 PM PST by deaconjim (Because He lives...)
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To: editor-surveyor

I’m afraid to ask, but what does BFL mean?


31 posted on 11/22/2012 12:50:34 PM PST by possum john
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To: rodguy911; deaconjim

Rod - I don’t think starting a 3rd party assures our destruction. I think it’s the only path to success. But we have to take a long-term view on the presidency - 12-16 years - instead of supporting more of the same. We can’t continue this short-term thinking. It’s killing us.

The GOP is a damaged brand, as is the “Tea Party” (not the Tea Party philosophy, just the name). There is no point in pursuing either one any more. The media has successfully destroyed them.

Instead, we either join the Constitution party or start another which will take much longer, and start looking for legitimate congressional candidates who can communicate conservatism in a rational and convincing manner. A massive influx of conservatives into the Constitution Party will give it credibility that will attract both legitimate candidates and additional conservatives. One win is all it will take to turn the corner.

We abandon the presidency for the next 2-3 cycles and concentrate our efforts on getting Tea Party-type people into a majority position in the House and Senate - local and state efforts, not national efforts - more under the radar. If we’re able to get a majority of conservative candidates into congress, whoever is President is immaterial. With 60 senators and a majority in the House, we can get anything passed we want to - overriding a presidential veto as required.

I doubt the GOP will ever have another of their candidates elected as President - with our current demographic and a treasonous media, even if the GOP gets a candidate elected he will only be less liberal than the liberal the Dems put up.

I don’t see any other way at this point. I said early this year that the selection of Mitt Romney as the GOP candidate would be the death of the GOP. We can’t change it from within, we can’t continue to support more of the same and I believe that there is no way to convince the mentally-challenged, non-conservatives and non-republicans to join us - the media won’t let it happen. It’s time we recognize this and take some positive action to save the Country.


32 posted on 11/22/2012 1:23:35 PM PST by Larry - Moe and Curly (Loose lips sink ships.)
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To: Larry - Moe and Curly

Count me out when it comes to third parties. You seem to think we have a lot more time that I do.


33 posted on 11/22/2012 1:34:05 PM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: rodguy911

That’s the beauty of this country - we all have choices and opportunities. If we don’t have the time, it won’t matter whether we’re in the GOP or somewhere else.

Hope you’re having a good Thanksgiving.


34 posted on 11/22/2012 1:55:32 PM PST by Larry - Moe and Curly (Loose lips sink ships.)
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To: Thorliveshere

The best tool to destroy the republic and concentrate more power in Washington was the repeal of the 17th amendment. If state legislature selected senators the R’s would be at almost 60 right now.


35 posted on 11/22/2012 2:01:01 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Larry - Moe and Curly
The GOP is a damaged brand, as is the “Tea Party” (not the Tea Party philosophy, just the name). There is no point in pursuing either one any more. The media has successfully destroyed them.

So, you think that if we successfully start the Green Umbrella Party, the media won't destroy that next?

Nonsense. Destroy the media instead.

36 posted on 11/22/2012 2:06:36 PM PST by Lazamataz (Islam is a religious form of Nazism.)
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To: Lazamataz

If you completely destroy the media, you will still be left with a GOP dominated and led by Progressives.


37 posted on 11/22/2012 2:54:47 PM PST by possum john
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To: Larry - Moe and Curly; rodguy911; deaconjim
I've got to read this whole thread; was checking "latest comments" and read the below by the 3 Stooges, what an apt name! Letting the commie/muzzie/criminal gang win the next 2 to 3 presidencies means utter doom for the USA.

We abandon the presidency for the next 2-3 cycles and concentrate our efforts on getting Tea Party-type people into a majority position in the House and Senate - local and state efforts, not national efforts - more under the radar. If we’re able to get a majority of conservative candidates into congress, whoever is President is immaterial.

More actual conservative Congressmen is good; fat chance on Senators, and to top it all off, with massive election fraud now the Dems SOP plus ruling by Executive Order and Fed agencies by unilateral fiat, we're freaking doomed without serious fightback. Giving up on anything but Dem/thug presidents for 2 or 3 cycles is utter suicide.

38 posted on 11/22/2012 4:14:58 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

Conservatives haven’t won a Presidential election since 1984. We’ve got to take a different approach if we ever want to win another.


39 posted on 11/22/2012 4:32:36 PM PST by possum john
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To: possum john

I agree we need a different approach. A few thoughts:

1. Actual conservative candidates with courage and a unsurppressable fighting spirit who are willing to fight other Rs on conservative issues and any corruption.

2. Above candidates must be not only ready, willing and able but straining at the leash to attack the leftist MSM and take on election fraud.

3. State Rs need to go after election fraud with guts as someone mentioned above.

Basically no “tactic” will work other than real conservatives, with guts and fighting spirit. It’s a given that the MSM is nothing but the mouthpiece of hardcore leftists/thugs/Dems. So trying to make nice with them or cater to them is a losing tactic.


40 posted on 11/22/2012 5:57:06 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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