Skip to comments.Selling the American Dream: Can The GOP Bring Hispanics Home?
Posted on 11/24/2012 1:21:00 PM PST by Steelfish
Selling the American Dream By RACHEL CAMPOS-DUFFY NOVEMBER 2012 issue
Can The GOP Bring Hispanics Home?
IT WAS THE SPRING OF 1994. The Smashing Pumpkins ruled the airwaves. I was 22 years old, recently graduated from Arizona State University and living in the Real World house in San Francisco. Rooming with six strangers and having my life taped for MTVs groundbreaking reality series, The Real World, in the nations most liberal city was a formative experience for a young, Hispanic, conservative, Catholic girl from the Southwest.
The Real World perfectly captured the politically correct, multicultural zeitgeist of the 1990s, and it was exhilarating to be at the center of a pop culture phenomenon. In San Francisco, I saw my first gay pride parade with my HIV-positive Cuban roommate, Pedro. I attended spoken word night at a dry hip-hop nightclub with my dreadlocked, African American Muslim roommate, Mohammad. I regularly bar-hopped in seedy neighborhoods with my anarchist bike messenger pal, Puck.
I went to more drag shows than I care to admit, and once was even taken to bondage night at a local club, where I observed a sad, topless, wrinkled grandmother in leather shorts, and misfit weirdos of every stripe, spanking and electrocuting each other. I was shocked (no pun intended), but in youthful optimism also convinced that somehow this culture would make me a more well-rounded, worldly, sophisticated adult.
So I was annoyed when my open-minded roommates balked and moaned after I invited them to experience my world at an Empower America conference. Jeane Kirkpatrick and my political hero, Jack Kemp, were headlining the event.
(Excerpt) Read more at spectator.org ...
I’ll bring them home, but only if they’re smoking hot. And make pork chile verde.
The authors pic is at the end of the article. You may have brought her home too.
Yes, and Kemp personally was also very good at communicating this. BTW, he was very white-bread himself, I think was brought up as a Christian Scientist in Southern California, and built a small business before going into politics. So the type of spokesman is not the problem: it's that we have to have a good message and a good, intelligent communicator to carry it, not just one of the "right" ethnic group.
The GOP has been systematically eliminating all these people because what the party prefers are...well, the old white guys who haven't had an idea for decades. They can't reach out, not because they're bigots, but because they are half-dead and have no ideas except what they think will benefit them in the short term. So how can they carry a message to anybody (including working class whites, who didn't vote for Romney either).
This person doesn’t sound anything like a conservative
Republicans will gain 2 Hispanics and lose 4 of their base doing it.
Ill bring them home, but only if theyre smoking hot.
I hope you were speaking of the Latina variety....
I’ve had a crush on Rachel going back to when she was on “The Real World.” Unfortunately, one had to sit through those moments with those execrable and demented moonbat roommates of hers. We should’ve drafted her to run for Senator in Wisconsin. Now that poor state is saddled with a cretin to rival her ex-roommates in San Francisco. Maybe in 2018 she’ll have a go...
Also this fascinating quote:
Mexican Americans raised in the 50s and 60s were encouraged to love America and to become a part of it. Post-70s popular culture has had no such quaint aspirations. My parents instilled the American Dream in me, but over and over throughout my college years, I was told that America wasnt the land of opportunity and that I needed government assistance and affirmative action to overcome the institutional barriers that were holding me back.
Todays dreamer kids are steeped in a multicultural, bilingual public school curriculum thats heavy on victimhood and light, if not altogether silent, on our Founding Fathers and the Constitution. A return to American history and civics in the classroom for all children, including ESL students, is imperative to righting this ship.
No conservative would voluntarily submit themselves to being on that skanky TV show or doing any of those things she describes or pushing to pander to racial groups
Lol, yes. This is not the DU! (Not that there’s anything wrong with that - Seinfeld)
Unless you're Cuban, you're coming from a culture that loves big powerful dictatorial governments. On the left you've got the beloved Peron, Chavez, or Castro regimes, but even on the right you've got Fujimori and Pinochet. Limited government and individual liberty are foreign concepts south of the border.
We can embrace the legal ones. There is nothing wrong with that - they are primarily Catholic and should be Conservatives. I think any attempts at outreach to Blacks is doomed to failure. We might as well attempt with Hispanics - might have more success with them.
As a person who has worked in both Black majority and Hispanic majority cities I can say honestly that I would much prefer to work with Hispanics. They have a strong tendency to work hard and be family oriented, both are Conservative traits. I think we have been wrong to lump all Hispanics together as if they are all Mexican. They are not. I think we should start with Cubans and work our way outward from there.
I personally believe that all students should be taught Latin as part of an overall Classical education. It is the foundation of five languages (including English). There is nothing wrong with teaching our children the second most spoken language in the world (Spanish). We can embrace them and at the same time teach them to embrace our values. By excluding legal Hispanics by lumping them together with illegal Mexican entrants to the country, we are shortchanging ourselves. It is time for that to end.
Jesus said go where the sinners are.
The Hispanic pols she thinks the GOP should promote more, such as Martinez and Rubio, are pro-amnesty.
With something approaching 75% of Hispanic immigrants on some form of welfare and all of them eligible for affirmative-action advantages, more Hispanic immigrants does equal more Democrat votes.
She is right about outreach, as was Michael Steele regarding the African American community; but that would only slightly lessen the perpetual advantage that affirmative action, especially, has given the Democrats.
“I hope you were speaking of the Latina variety....”
Not me. Give German or Polish women. Hot blondes.
Did Jesus say you should become a sinner and praise the sins?
When I look down the road that you of the younger generation will have to travel, it occurs to me that your answer to the Muslim problem is going to be the Hispanic problem. IOW, better Catholics than Muslims. I really like the Hispanics who work for a living and raise their children Catholic. I have no room in my country for Islamics.
Exactly what are you accusing her of ? She is married and the mother of several children.
And if you are Cuban, you do relatively well in school and get a big advantage by qualifying under the affirmative action umbrella—so even that constituency gets corrupted over time.
Hispanics in my Central California Coastal town have the American Dream. 87% of the births at the local hospital are to Hispanics on MediCal. 87% of the kids in the local schools are Hispanic and 87% of them are on the free lunch program. SSI for grandma, free day care for the kids, MediCal provided dental care, Section 8 housing, EBT card and monthly welfare checks. They already have the American Dream.
I didn’t accuse her of anything she didn’t admit to in the first few paragraphs.
And liberals aren’t family oriented?
A majority of Hispanic children are born out of wedlock, and they’ve come on strong for abortion and gay marriage as well. They are no more church going than the American population as a whole.
Thanks for calling me of the younger generation I am 70.
My look down the road doesn’t include either.
We must close the borders, and only allow legal immigration.
Suggesting of course that Americans of Hispanic descent are inveterate law-breakers. People never explain why they feeeeeeeeeeeeel that way.
Oh nevermind.. 1986 redux -- amnesty and open borders -- a.k.a., comprehensive "reform."
BTW, I remember Jack Kemp, Jeb Bush, and William Bennett out here screaming at Republicans for passing Prop 187 in 1994 -- 1994 also elected a Republican governor and Republican control of the Assembly for the first time in ages. About one-third of the voters were there voting just to "Save Our State."
The Republican Party of California followed Kemp's, et al advice and since the late 1990s, IIRC, they've won just three statewide elections.. two of them by SchwarzenKennedy
She didn’t attempt to hide from it. It didn’t corrupt her, which is the point. She went through the experience with her values intact. I watched that show. It was her roommates that were the intolerant reactionaries that we know leftists to be. She tried to open their minds to different ideas and they refused to be moved. It was ultimately more an indictment of them than of her. She’s also the only one to come out of that show a success story.
I don’t believe that Liberals are family-oriented. I believe Liberals hate God and want to destroy the family unit.
I think we can reach Hispanics. They have been propagandized by Liberals for so long that they have lost their way on some issues. But I believe that they are able to be reached. I think some of the support for abortion and gay marriage is efforts to be included, following along with the crowd who claims to accept them. I believe we can change those attitudes if we change the way we relate to them. I do not believe that Blacks can be saved. They are far too gone. We will save ourselves a lot of heartache if we just recognize that fact and let them go.
Terrorists prefer legal immigration.
Hispanic Voters = Illegal Alien Amnesty
The GOP needs to get off their Fetish for Hispanics and Illegal Aliens, or they will keep losing more of their base
Get real GOP...or get Whig
I am afraid all this breast-beating over the Hispanics, moderates vs. conservatives, swing states, Reagan Democrats... blah, blah, blad is totally a waste of time. The GOP is finished unless it learns to get its hands dirty and do some serious street fighting. The base is in rapid retreat from all things RINO and DC and unlikely to every rally again without a real war cry, not more limp-wristed ‘analysis.’
Fine, I’m all for trying to get the message to Hispanics or any other “minority” voters. But I don’t expect great results. Probably the only way many will change their socialist ways is if the country goes through a deep depression. And if we keep electing people like Obama, that won’t too far in the future.
Jack Kemp was considered a “radical with hair on fire” by the GOP-e of the time and they all disavowed him. However, GOP presidential candidates got much more of the Hispanic vote during his time. Read all of the article beyond the first few words and you will understand this.
It didn’t carry forward because the GOP abandoned (a) the ideals and (b) the outreach. The fact that Ryan was not allowed to go and speak to “urban” (read: poor black) areas and nobody at all went to speak in Hispanic areas, except for Rubio, who was allowed to occasionally preach to the choir, tells you why we lost these areas spectacularly.
I was speaking to a Hispanic friend this weekend who said she despised everything Obama stood for - but she voted for him anyway, because she thought the GOP hated Hispanics and Romney made it very clear that he “didn’t want” their votes.
She loves Rubio and Mia Love, btw, but she said she couldn’t get past Romney. Also, she and a lot of Hispanics did not like the fact that he was a Mormon.
Rubio’s (Catholic) family was sucked in by the Mormons for social services after they arrived in the US, but then he married a Catholic and is Catholic himself.
Mia Love is also a Mormon, but she wasn’t brought up as a Mormon and probably still has a less-Mormon oriented agenda (and I wouldn’t be surprised if she finds another religion one of these days).
But Romney was very much a part of their strange world vision, which involves making huge profits for themselves and their church. They were originally enemies of the US, and Romney’s great-grandfather fled to Mexico with his wives. Romney’s grandfather brought his son (Romney’s father) back to the US as a child when the Mexicans began objecting to this polygamist colony and its proseletysing.
The only reason Utah is part of the US is because the Mormons didn’t have enough firepower to resist the US cavalry, and the Mormons finally had to back off after killing a whole wagon train (Mountain Meadows Massacre) and various other groups and individuals that were on their way to settle the West. The condition for statehood was that they give up polygamy and any practice that was contrary to the US Constitution.
Romney, like Obama, apparently thought he was the fulfilment of some Mormon “prophecy” where they would take over the United States.
Could we have found a worse candidate?
No, nor do I. The poor fools on this thread complaining about Hispanics don't seem to realize that Obama (by executive order almost immediately after his inauguration in January, 2009) took a large percentage of the legal Latin American immigration quota and alloted that quota to people from "Muslim countries."
I know, and if we don’t push them back out now, it will become too late in four more years.
For too long, the partys strategy has been to hire a few Beltway conservative Latinos six months before an election and call it outreach. Whats needed is permanent outreach at the grassroots levels between elections. Conservative Hispanic activists on the ground know that the GOP needs to take a few cues from successful groups like the far-left La Raza, which has made its mark by bringing public policy to the neighborhood level.
Well, in that case, I had better put more water on to boil a lot more pasta.. Dinner is at 7PM.. see ya, Oh, and you better bring an extra chair.. Ha!
Not a chance. We have lost the Hispanic vote. (not suggesting that we change to get it). Look no further than CA to see it. on this, CA is absolutely a microcosm. We haven’t had the Hispanic vote since Prop 13 and never will. Anyone who thinks we can get it is fooling themselves terribly.
This is about the best response we’ve gotten for a long time.
Why vote Republican when the Hispanics already have their dream. Come into the country smuggled or by tourist visa, and give birth and hence automatic citizenship; free K-12 education for all illegals and no questions asked, non-enforcement of the immigration laws; reduced tuition to American’s colleges and universities, scholarships and Pell grants, driver’s license and bank IDs, often free housing and fee medical care, and not as much crime as Guadalajara, Democratic protection rackets from state lawmakers to mayors to Congress, have federal appeals courts strike down state laws against enforcing immigration statutes, ACLU and LaRaza defenses, a cottage industry of immigration lawyers, and Obama for four more years. Heck what better dream?
Who told that the Catholic vote is conservative?
Republicans have only won the Catholic vote 5 times, or a disputed 6th time, in our entire history, and only one of those was not for basically a reelection of a sitting incumbent.
Most Hispanics come from countries where they regularly vote pro-Marxist. I can’t for anything see what makes people think they’ll stop doing that once they come here—and the Democrats give them far more stuff than they could hope for at home.
But it’s a sweet hope, I guess—and I’m all for realistic outreach to all left-leaning voters.
This is a deluded fantasy. The GOP is not going to win the “Hispanic Vote”. Here is the best strategy for GOP (and American) survival:
1. Put the military on the boder.
2. Cut off all benefits to illegals.
3. Deport, deport, deport.
4. Jail employers of illegals.
5. Close up the anchor baby loophole.
6. Cut down legal immigration to about 100,000 annually.
7. Make English the official language of government.
8. Abolish Affirmative Action.
If we did all this, we might have a chance.
That could be, but now she's raising 6 kids with her Republican Congressman husband. True, she has the hyphenated last name and gave all the children Spanish names, but with 6 children running around there's a limit to how liberal she can be.
I don't know about her political prescriptions but it wouldn't be wise to just tell her off or turn her away because of acquaintances she had 20 years ago (when she was Young Republican).
I gather she had a hard time reconciling her own convictions with those of her Real World housemates. It's to her credit that she didn't either give in to their views or run away screaming.
When Bill Buckley started his conservative magazine, National Review, back in the 1950s a lot of his contributors were people who had been radicals or communists, bohemians or libertines 20 or 30 years before.
They got older. They changed their views. Real world problems and hard-earned truths replaced youthful experimentation and enthusiasms. They grew up.
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