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Warp drive looks more promising than ever in recent NASA studies
GizMag ^ | October 3, 2012 | Dr. Brian Dodson

Posted on 11/24/2012 1:33:34 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

The first steps towards interstellar travel have been taken, but the stars are very far away. Voyager 1 is about 17 light-hours distant from Earth and is traveling with a velocity of 0.006 percent of light speed, meaning it will take about 17,000 years to travel one light-year. Fortunately, the elusive "warp drive" now appears to be evolving past difficulties with new theoretical advances and a NASA test rig under development to measure artificially generated warping of space-time.

The warp drive broke away from being a wholly fictional concept in 1994, when physicist Miguel Alcubierre suggested that faster-than-light (FTL) travel was possible if you remained still on a flat piece of spacetime inside a warp bubble that was made to move at superluminal velocity. Rather like a magic carpet. The main idea here is that, although no material objects can travel faster than light, there is no known upper speed to the ability of spacetime itself to expand and contract. The only real hint we have is that the minimum velocity of spacetime expansion during the period of cosmological inflation was about 30 million billion times the speed of light...

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TOPICS: Astronomy; Business/Economy; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: nasa; space; spacetravel; stringtheory; warpdrive; warpspeed
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To: Riley
Acceleration and deceleration stresses would have to be handled somehow

There would be no acceleration; the ship does not move in the normal space. The acceleration (such as stretching of the space) occurs within an infinitely thin border of the bubble, but that border is far enough from the outer walls of the spacecraft.

As an example, take a sailor inside a submarine. The submarine may be moving pretty fast underwater, but the sailor is not feeling any pressure of water - there is some other shell, well away from him, that takes care of that. As far as the sailor is concerned, he is not moving anywhere.

21 posted on 11/24/2012 1:53:50 PM PST by Greysard
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To: GeronL
Vasimr engines are technologically possible with speeds as much as 10% to 15% of light speed possible. The real problem arises with the fact that they need to be VERY large for any kind of real human spaceflight.

Vasimr engines were among the leading prospects for project Deadelus but we're still years from building in space where it would have to be done at enormous cost.

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22 posted on 11/24/2012 1:55:22 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Darksheare

At the rate the Dollar degrades- by then you might just be likely have that in your checking account.


23 posted on 11/24/2012 1:55:47 PM PST by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: babygene

Space stations and stuff can be colonies of a sort.


24 posted on 11/24/2012 1:56:12 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: babygene
How so? The place still has to be livable...

Give Obama a few more terms and you will beg for a patch of land on Pluto.

25 posted on 11/24/2012 1:58:06 PM PST by Greysard
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To: Greysard; Riley

Yes.
Supposedly from the point of view of the object being ‘accelerated’, it actually doesn’t move or notice any kind of G force of any kind.
Supposedly.

Whether or not a practical actual working model does what it is supposed ot do, well...
..that would be the interesting part.

As your speed approaches or reaches c, your apparent mass reaches or exceeds that of a planet.
Your actual mass does not change at all.
But you would be gravitationally slinging things around you.
Again, supposedly.
If mankind lives long enough, we may actuially see whether or not this is true.


26 posted on 11/24/2012 1:58:25 PM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: cripplecreek

goodness!!


27 posted on 11/24/2012 1:58:41 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Darksheare

And the municipal judge is in the Pleiades.


28 posted on 11/24/2012 1:59:14 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

2012 and I am still walking on the pavement.

psss!


29 posted on 11/24/2012 2:03:16 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (There goes the dominoes...)
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To: cripplecreek

A simple Infinite Improbability Drive!


30 posted on 11/24/2012 2:04:09 PM PST by jaz.357 (Welcome to hell. Here's your accordion.)
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To: GeronL
Think about this for a second ~ we haven't even colonized much of Siberia, Antarctica or Canada for that matter.

That's a huge amount of territory.

31 posted on 11/24/2012 2:10:17 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: GeronL

The Orion drive is another interesting idea that would also need to be built in space. (mostly because you’ll never be able to launch that kind of nuclear payload into space)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Orion_%28nuclear_propulsion%29

I personally think propulsion advances are the key to true human spaceflight.


32 posted on 11/24/2012 2:11:16 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: muawiyah

But those are really harsh environments and it would cost a lot of money to colonize them. /s lol


33 posted on 11/24/2012 2:13:39 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: muawiyah

That is true, but unfortunately it’d be impossible to start a new country in those places.


34 posted on 11/24/2012 2:14:17 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: cripplecreek

Zero’s too busy promoting trains and putting people on food stamps.


35 posted on 11/24/2012 2:14:46 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Greysard

He’ll settle for Uranus.


36 posted on 11/24/2012 2:16:36 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Greysard; Riley; GeronL; Darksheare
"There would be no acceleration; the ship does not move in the normal space. The acceleration (such as stretching of the space) occurs within an infinitely thin border of the bubble, but that border is far enough from the outer walls of the spacecraft. "

Yeah but, with all this stretching of space going on, what happens when you try to come back the other way?

Does space start getting compressed again? What about "stretch" marks?

You could run into a wrinkle in time.

I may need to go out and sit on a rock in my back yard to ponder this.

37 posted on 11/24/2012 2:19:30 PM PST by NicknamedBob ("P" for present, "C" for coal, right, Bernard?)
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To: fhayek

Think of it this way. You are on the open sea in a boat and not moving but the sea is rushing past you.


38 posted on 11/24/2012 2:20:41 PM PST by ffusco (The President will return this country to what it once was...An arctic wasteland covered in ice.)
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To: NicknamedBob

lol

good questions

Hopefully it won’t permanently damage the fabric of space-time.

(I actually wrote a story once where a technology did just that, tear holes in the fabric of space... I lost it a while back though... drat)


39 posted on 11/24/2012 2:21:35 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

There is nothing wrong with trains provided there are enough people who want to ride them where they are going.


40 posted on 11/24/2012 2:23:29 PM PST by ffusco (The President will return this country to what it once was...An arctic wasteland covered in ice.)
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