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Harry Reid and Senate Dems Hypocritically Embrace Nuclear Option To Kill Filibusters
True Conservatives on Twitter ^ | November 28, 2012

Posted on 11/28/2012 8:44:28 AM PST by raptor22

Congress: Changing the filibuster rule come January has suddenly become a top priority for Senate Democrats who want to help their re-elected president complete his fundamental transformation of America.

Minority Leader Mitch McConnell on Monday blasted Democratic-led efforts to reform the filibuster, something the Democrats once vehemently opposed but which Majority Leader Harry Reid has promised to bring up in the next Congress, fearing the Republicans will dig in to block President Obama's agenda.

What Reid and the Democrats will come up with is unknown at this point. Among the options is to ban filibusters that block the start of floor debates and House-Senate conference committees from convening.

One proposal would force senators to actually get up and talk endlessly in order to filibuster legislation, which senators were required to do until 1975, as depicted in the classic Jimmy Stewart film, "Mr. Smith Goes To Washington."

Then there's the so-called "nuclear option," which would call for just a simple majority, or 51 votes, to change Senate rules. Changing the rules usually requires two-thirds of the chamber, or 67 votes. It's something Reid vehemently opposed in 2005, when Senate Republicans ruled the roost.

Some GOP senators in 2005 considered the nuclear option to push President Bush's judicial nominees that were being held up, but only for judicial nominations. Sen. Reid was a valiant defender of the filibuster then, saying: "Some in this chamber want to throw out 214 years of Senate history in the quest for absolute power ... . They think they're wiser than our Founding Fathers. I doubt that's true."

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TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: congress; democrats; dingyharry; filibuster; filibusters; harryreid; nuclearoption; senate

1 posted on 11/28/2012 8:44:36 AM PST by raptor22
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To: raptor22

Short version: why Romney lost. Repubs play by the rules. Dems simply tear-out your throat.


2 posted on 11/28/2012 8:47:50 AM PST by pabianice (washington, dc ..)
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To: raptor22

Who cares. All that would do is make the House even less likely to pass any bills, which will be a good thing.


3 posted on 11/28/2012 8:49:53 AM PST by Sporke (USS Iowa BB-61)
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To: raptor22

I don’t think this will happen. Dems. know they wont always be in the majority and they want to have this when they are not.


4 posted on 11/28/2012 8:51:06 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: raptor22

Of course they are.


5 posted on 11/28/2012 8:51:37 AM PST by pallis
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To: pabianice

Yep! Don’t bring a knife to a gun fight...


6 posted on 11/28/2012 8:51:43 AM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: Sporke

it is not just the laws that get passed, it is the confirmation process....failure to take the Senate was a key loss for the GOP, more so than Romney losing.

Hopefully Reid has the big one soon.


7 posted on 11/28/2012 8:52:23 AM PST by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: SuperLuminal

Dems are calculating that it will be a decade if not more before the Republicans retake the Senate majority. Given the buffoons running the GOP, it’s hard to disagree with the analysis, particularly since GOP incompetence is exacerbated by Dem fraud.


8 posted on 11/28/2012 8:53:39 AM PST by littleharbour
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To: raptor22

I had always thought that nuking the filibuster rule could come back and bite the party that loses power.

Now, since the Republicans just go along with the Dhimmicrats, it really doesn’t matter.

John “Bawler” Beohner’s outrage is soooooooo insincere.


9 posted on 11/28/2012 8:57:58 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Bread and Circuses; Everyone to the Coliseum!)
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To: raptor22

I am all for getting rid of filibusters. What will be funny will be if Republicans ever get the Senate again, Democrats will be scrambling to put it back. They will have “learned” that it was a mistake to get rid of it. And even funnier, Republicans will fall for it.


10 posted on 11/28/2012 8:58:32 AM PST by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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To: pabianice

bingo...


11 posted on 11/28/2012 8:58:53 AM PST by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: Sporke

Wrong. Boner will say “We might lose the election if we don’t let Reid screw us.”


12 posted on 11/28/2012 8:59:05 AM PST by Terry Mross (I haven't watched the news since the election. Someone ping me if anything big happens.)
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To: Sporke

Its probably important for the UN gun ban treaty which BO is supporting.


13 posted on 11/28/2012 9:00:13 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: raptor22

Lord, please rid of us of that little weasel and all the rest of the demons from hell in the Senate!


14 posted on 11/28/2012 9:05:05 AM PST by Bitsy
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To: driftdiver

Treaty ratification requires a 2/3 Senate vote. Not likely.


15 posted on 11/28/2012 9:05:17 AM PST by pabianice (washington, dc ..)
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To: pabianice

2/3rds of those present, not the full senate


16 posted on 11/28/2012 9:06:48 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
I don’t think this will happen. Dems. know they wont always be in the majority and they want to have this when they are not.

Ah, but what if, once the Dems are back in the minority, they convince the stupid Repubicans to "reach across the aisle" and in the "spirit of comity" put things back the way they were?

17 posted on 11/28/2012 9:12:21 AM PST by COBOL2Java (GOPe: Already prepping for their 2016 loss - Jeb Bush!)
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To: raptor22
BHO on the subject, April 13, 2005:

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/appearance/595908388

18 posted on 11/28/2012 9:15:15 AM PST by polymuser ("We have a right to debate and disagree with any administration!" (HRC))
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To: Defiant

If the repubics ever get the senate back, which they will not, they will put the rule back in place and be filibustered by the democrats every step of the way.


19 posted on 11/28/2012 9:17:17 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

“I don’t think this will happen. Dems. know they wont always be in the majority and they want to have this when they are not.”

Remember, whilst Dim-bulb-crats have no brains, Repulsicans have no b*lls.

Should the RINOs ever get in power again, they’ll bend over, do whatever the MSM tells them to, and change the rules to whatever the dim bulbs want.

Sorry, that’s life.

Until we tar, feather, and launch the GOP into the sun.

Wanna know what a eunoch looks like?

Google Boehner.


20 posted on 11/28/2012 9:18:14 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Bitsy
"Lord, please rid of us of that little weasel and all the rest of the demons from hell in the Senate!"

Let's see - 28 senators over 70 years of age - 18 or so of them Democrats - 30 Republican governors in red states - Governors get to replace dead senators - maybe the Lord has a better plan than Dingy Harry Reid?

21 posted on 11/28/2012 9:19:10 AM PST by eCSMaster (2012 elections: American Coup d'etat!)
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To: raptor22
Congress: Changing the filibuster rule come January has suddenly become a top priority for Senate Democrats who want to help their re-elected president complete his fundamental transformation destruction of America.

Fix'd

22 posted on 11/28/2012 9:29:35 AM PST by mykroar (BAD-ANON: One Game At A Time)
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To: eCSMaster
Let's see - 28 senators over 70 years of age - 18 or so of them Democrats - 30 Republican governors in red states - Governors get to replace dead senators

So what? If the situation arises, the Democrats will demand that a Democratic senator be replaced with another Democrat, and the Republican Governors will graciously submit to that demand.

23 posted on 11/28/2012 9:35:19 AM PST by GreenHornet
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To: driftdiver

The gun ban has nothing to do with this topic. A treaty will need the same number of votes regardless what rules Reid changes.

obama can’t get 67 votes for that treaty. It’ll never happen. Even some dems wouldn’t vote for it.


24 posted on 11/28/2012 9:56:49 AM PST by Sporke (USS Iowa BB-61)
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To: Sporke
obama can’t get 67 votes for that treaty. It’ll never happen. Even some dems wouldn’t vote for it.

Right! And Hitler would never try to exterminate the Jews.

25 posted on 11/28/2012 10:07:14 AM PST by sport
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To: littleharbour
With the continued "leadership"/sarc of bonerhead in the House, it will be a miracle if the guppies don't lose the House in 2014...

Probably would guarantee our o_lord and o_savior 3rd and 4th terms...

26 posted on 11/28/2012 10:14:06 AM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: Sporke

Treaties require two-thirds of the Senators present which is not necessarily 67 votes.

Anything which gives demonrats in the Senate more power is pertinent.


27 posted on 11/28/2012 10:25:30 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: eCSMaster

maybe the Lord has a better plan than Dingy Harry Reid?
Lets hope soon!!!


28 posted on 11/28/2012 10:26:39 AM PST by Bitsy
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To: raptor22
GOP= "Party of Stupid"

DEMOCRATS = Party of double-standards and lies

blasted Democratic-led efforts to reform the filibuster, something the Democrats once vehemently opposed but which Majority Leader Harry Reid has promised to bring up in the next Congress

29 posted on 11/28/2012 10:55:38 AM PST by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: SuperLuminal
in 4 years, elections will be irrelevant (nearly are today). Obummer's vision for American will include either himself in perpetual rulership (like his buddy in Egypt is trying to set up), or arrange things so that only the Leftists have the opportunity (kind of like Russia today... Putin is still in control, even though he isn't "the man").
30 posted on 11/28/2012 11:02:29 AM PST by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: raptor22
Listen to these RAT hypocrites spew back in 2005 when their "King George" was on the throne.

God I hate these people and their propaganda media slimes. I haven't watched any TV (excpetion Fringe) since 2006.
31 posted on 11/28/2012 1:11:00 PM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: TheBattman; littleharbour
Seems to me that the era of change via the ballot box is over...We are at least a decade into the "thousand years" we were warned about by Ronald Reagan...

The Americans did nothing of consequence to stop it...In fact, more than 50% of the serfs are delighted by the crushing tyranny being welded permanently around our collective necks.

From the vaunted "class of 94" to the 2010 class of so-called conservatives, the usual fetal position and lots of thumb-sucking are the only results...Pravda has it right this time...Communism has triumphed after all...

Hmmm...Time for change with the "other" box???

32 posted on 11/28/2012 2:10:44 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: pabianice

Reid is counting on the fact that the Republicans will continue to play by the remaining rules.

But ... the Senate functions by “unanimus consent”. If only a few Republicans had the balls, they could shut down the Senate permanently.

For example: Require every bill to be read completely before every vote. Put a hold on every bill, every nomination. Require the minutes of the previous day to be read completely. Submit multiple amendments to the minutes of the previous day. Raise points of order for everything under the sun. Make a motion to adjourn every 5 minutes - a motion to adjourn is always in order.

If Reid wants to go nuclear, go nuclear.


33 posted on 11/29/2012 7:49:47 AM PST by Mack the knife
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To: Mack the knife

A nice dream. With a few exceptions, Republicans are weeping cowards. They will never oppose Obama and Reid in any meaningful way. I hope this extinguishes them before 2016.


34 posted on 11/29/2012 1:30:22 PM PST by pabianice (washington, dc ..)
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