Skip to comments.Women Want Conditional Equality in the Military
Posted on 11/28/2012 9:45:44 AM PST by Starman417
Except as otherwise provided in this title (sections 451 to 471a of this Appendix) it shall be the duty of every male citizen of the United States, and every other male person residing in the United States, who, on the day or days fixed for the first or any subsequent registration, is between the ages of eighteen and twenty-six, to present himself for and submit to registration at such time or times and place or places, and in such manner, as shall be determined by proclamation of the President and by rules and regulations prescribed hereunder.
That is section 453 of the Military Selective Service Act that was passed in 1917 and amended many times over the years, the most recent being in 2003. This will come into play later.
On my way home from work, the news played a clip of a former Army helicopter pilot, Major Mary Jennings Hegar. There was much ado about the fact she served three combat tours in Afghanistan. Along with three other female veterans, she has joined with the ACLU to sue the Department of Defense over the combat exclusion policy that bars females from going into combat specialties. In an op-ed published today, MAJ Hegar made the following comments:
If there is one thing Ive learned about the differences between us all throughout my years of service, its this: putting the right person in the right job has very little to do with ones gender, race, religion, or other demographic descriptor. It has everything to do with ones heart, character, ability, determination and dedication.
Thats the problem with the militarys combat exclusion policy. It makes it that much harder for people to see someones abilities, and instead reinforces stereotypes about gender. The policy creates the pervasive way of thinking in military and civilian populations that women cant serve in combat roles, even in the face of the reality that servicewomen in all branches of the military are already fighting for their country alongside their male counterparts. They shoot, they return fire, they drag wounded comrades to safety and they engage with the enemy, and they have been doing this for years. They risk their lives for their country, and the combat exclusion policy does them a great disservice.
It's no secret and I don't deny that women have been shot at, shot back, and contributed to direct-fire engagements of the enemy. However, that doesn't mean that these actions equate to being infantry, cavalry, or other combat specialty. As a matter of fact, the Marine Corps recently opened up their Infantry Officers Course to women. Two women volunteered to attend the course...and both women dropped from the program. These women were "to complete required training due to unspecified medical reasons, a Marine official told Marine Corps Times. Its unclear whether she was injured or if she became ill," according to the Marine Corps Times.
Women in the military want to have equal treatment while being treated differently. For example, in order for a male my age to just pass the push-up event with the minimum passing score, he has to correctly perform 34 push-ups. For a female of the same age, she only needs to complete 13. To pass the 2-mile run, I need to run 18:18 or faster while a female my age can take up to 22:42 to complete the same distance.
(excerpt) Read more at floppingaces.net...
People are just not equal.
Phase II of the destruction of our military, following repeal of DADT. 0bama is creating this atmosphere as a means to drive down enlistments of its core constituency; the straight white male. Making the military so miserable for SWM’s that none will want to join. Weakening America and disenfranchising the WASP (White Anglo-Saxon Protestant) male is 0bama’s goal.
I’ll never forget the double walls and such on the obstacle course at Annapolis. The shorter one was for the broads, the taller one was for the dudes. I’ll also never forget killing myself with the Halsey Hack to get a passing running score . . . that would have been an off the charts “A” if I was a broad and not a dude.
“People are just not equal.”
That my friend in todays world and tomorrows is irrelevant. We should just concede to the destination and get it over with. A all homosexual woman military would keep us as safe as the one we are going to end up with by the end of the second term of our lord and savior Barak Obama pieces be unto his name.
This is what democracy brings when it is no longer underwritten by a moral code.
The only equality is the soul.....i.e., a living human being.
At conception or birth, yes. XXyrs after, I don’t believe even souls are equal.
If these women get their wish, women will have to sign up for the draft as well. With Obama destroying the US military, the draft may become critical.
I would be for US Military “Gender Equality” if the US Military Females looked like this: http://www.google.com/search?q=idf+girls&hl=en&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=91e2UJT1K4689gTDn4HAAg&ved=0CCMQsAQ&biw=1920&bih=1030 AND could pass the Female IDF Basic Training.
I agree....”created equal”....
How about equal opportunity for equal ability.
And, yes, ALL citizens should have to register for the draft, not just the males, that is blatantly discriminatory.
Our military went to hell in 1970 with it’s AA policies, next the EEOC warrant officer was at every INF BDE level by 1973, and; any Black or Puerto Rican could claim his CO did not like him. Now, little fags like PFC Bradley Manning plus the likes of the female Reserve or NG Col. who had the prison in Iraq that made the news have shown us the real truth. Yet,the Army wants to play PC, MC, and gender correctness with these female combat support teams in Afghanistan by spreading the BS line that we need to know what Muslim women are thinking.
Please do not insult my or other’s intelligence as Afghan woman are not allowed to think. Ask the SF men who saw these female teams. They will tell you they are sad as hell. Then this clown of a Major who has been able to fly choppers and her ACLU complaint. I have heard so many similar stories to the ones already posted about totally unfit women being allowed to pass courses. Well, when your pal, buddy, or anyone in your command is shot up, you ladies had best be able to carry that wounded man to safety. If you cannot hump the bush with men, cannot deal with freezing your ass off or sweating it off, cannot deal without water for a day or two, cannot deal with no bath or shower for 5-20 days, cannot deal with seeing parts of US bodies blown all over the place-THE INFANTRY IS NOT FOR YOU.
Men have to get their heads shaved in boot camp while women get to keep their hair any length they desire.
all this is from commies who would never use the military option. Obama would rather surrender than fight. Then again he has never really been on the side of the USA.
All four will be ex military soon. There has to other reasons why they didn’t get promoted.
The Air Force has loads of females in upper levels and most of them has been nowhere close to any type of combat.
Comments from the link:Kevin, you make a valid point, but I dont think its the same thing. Generally, the older you are, the higher ranked you are. The higher ranked you are, the less you are required to do most physical taskings. The age requirements make sense as long as they equal for men and women. In my opinion.Not unless he is recruited into a specialty which his background suits him for, and which doesnt require heavy lifting. Old Sarge re-upped after 911, and I dont know that he was in shape to meet the standards for an 18-yo Private when he went back in. But he had experience which the Army obviously valued.
Kevin says: So, should the military enlist a 35 year old male recruit who will be unable to perform at the levels of his 21-year-old counterparts?
While I was in the Regular Army for 4 years, I met one, maybe 2, female soldiers that I would be comfortable with in Combat MOS’s. The other 9,346 women I met wouldn’t be able to out perform me in physical, combat related tasks.
In all honesty, I always struggled with the PT tests, so I would not have qualified either. Those combat specialty MOS’s are for physical specimans!
(No, my monikor is not my exiting rank!)
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Pinging the list because feminism is immoral for many reasons. In this case, feminism demoralizes and weakens the military. Numerous personal accounts prove this, what to speak of news stories. Women should have their own outfits as they did previously. Affirmative action is crippling to individuals and everything it touches. If they want to have women mixed in, then the women should have to perform every test, every action, every bit of training exactly up to the mens' standards. If they can't do it, too bad! (and hardly any of them will be able to).
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