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1 posted on 12/01/2012 9:48:01 AM PST by LD Jackson
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McConnell laughs
2 posted on 12/01/2012 9:50:59 AM PST by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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To: LD Jackson

Privately, take him VERY seriously. Publicly, ridicule him. Hire experts to project his plans into the future and describe to Americans what that dystopian future will look like (such Glenn Beck’s novel, Agenda 21).

But take a page from Pelosi’s playbook and never pass up an opportunity to look him in the eye (or the eye of any of this lackeys) and laugh while you ask, “Are you serious?”

If we don’t start playing smashmouth football (i.e. Alinsky politics), we might as well flee the country or learn to recite Marx. Being nice and taking the high road is the recipe for disaster. Just ask the Redcoats.


3 posted on 12/01/2012 9:55:26 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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"To the question at hand, should we Republicans take President Obama seriously on the fiscal cliff?

Conservatives should take the President at his word. The Ascended 0ne is a cold, calculating ideologue. He is not incompetent nor is he in over his head. The realization of the fiscal cliff is exactly what he wants: higher taxes and deep military cuts. That is the plan.

4 posted on 12/01/2012 9:55:34 AM PST by buckalfa (Nabob of Negativity)
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No matter what the GOP does the media will flay them - no worse if they refuse to negotiate than if they do.

So why the hell not walk away? At least they'd get credit for having b*lls.

5 posted on 12/01/2012 10:08:27 AM PST by skeeter
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well they will certainly be given media exposure time, right? They will go on talk shows and their press conferences (at least excerpts) will be televised.

So rather than their normal wimpy whining where they beg for scraps they should assume no deal. They should use that exposure to attack dems in a dramatic way that provides soundbites for the MSM. also educate the public as to how we got where we are. Thus far they are squandering those airtime events


6 posted on 12/01/2012 10:09:53 AM PST by plain talk
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Obama also wants to tie this all to an increase of the debt ceiling.
Obama’s idea of forward,he abuses the privledge of stupidity.

Tax spend tax spend tax spend tax spend..................


7 posted on 12/01/2012 10:32:25 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: LD Jackson
Here's a serious proposal: We will give you $1 in tax increases in 2014 for every $1 in actual spending cuts realized by the end of 2013. Additionally, any 2014 tax increases will automatically revoke for 2015 by the amount spending increases in 2014.

The problem is not with raising taxes per se. The real problem is that the tax hikes will not be used to actually reduce debt, they will simply be spent, and if past history is any indication, they will be spent at multiplier greater than one.

For every major tax increase since the imposition of the Federal income tax, on average Congress has raised spending by $1.40 for every new $1.00 in increased taxes. Raising taxes by $1.6 trillion implies we will increase spending by $2.24 trillion in addition to the automatic baseline increases already on tap.

This doesn't include any decrease in economic activity from tax hikes, only the static analysis of past political performance.

Conclusion: cut the spending UP FRONT. Then we'll talk about taxes.

8 posted on 12/01/2012 10:35:53 AM PST by FredZarguna (Nothing against Paki's. Just paraphrasing Biden. Or Hillary. Or Both.)
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As seriously as a toddler wih a loaded gun.


9 posted on 12/01/2012 10:39:11 AM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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surely the Obama administration does not believe the Republicans would not be stupid enough to agree to something this silly

Yes. They're not that stupid. They will wait for the next slightly less ridiculous offer.

10 posted on 12/01/2012 10:44:45 AM PST by TexasKamaAina
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The Democrats and the press work together to further the Democrat agenda. That’s not even debatable anymore. If the Republicans are going to go on the news shows and have interviews, then they better realize this and prepare for it or just stay home.


17 posted on 12/01/2012 12:09:42 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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We all agree that Obama and the Democrats are our opponents. What are their goals? Socialism? Destruction of America? OK. Explain to me why they would like the US to be like Cuba. Because their souls are filled with hatred towards America and whites? Man, if a black man can be elected to the top spot here, why would they want to tear that down? I’m going to start a prize fighting company just for Republicans. I wouldn’t even have to be any good. In every fight I’d just say “I’m Muhammad Ali! Boo!” and every Republican would jump out of the ring.

“Understand yourself and understand your opponents, and in one hundred battles, you will not be defeated.”

Keep thinking that the Democrat leaders really want socialism. That’s the ticket.


19 posted on 12/01/2012 12:22:16 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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Is there some reason why the House does not simply pass bills to freeze spending for each of the major appropriation bills(i.e., a budget and appropriation)?

I mean a true freeze - no baseline buget increases. I mean this years spending is the same as last fiscal year’s spending (and maybe less 1% or so). Say “That’s all you got, you decide how to prioritize.” Suspend the civil service laws to allow the President to lay off employees and really freeze or reduce pay for the civil servants. Make the managers manage. The government already has the power to cancel contracts “for the convenience of the government”.

Send the bills to the Senate, and tell them no increase in the debt ceiling until the Senate passes the bills. Additional spending will be considered on a case by case basis.

If the Senate and Obama want to shift money around, use the Senate committee process to do so, but no increase in funding over last year. Let them propose what gets cut.


20 posted on 12/01/2012 2:56:48 PM PST by Mack the knife
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