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Posted on 12/02/2012 11:12:02 PM PST by expat1000
Seems to me a headbutt is something pretty well anyone is capable of no matter what shape they are in and it can be a one strike winner if done right.
This guy created the RAT (Rapid Assault Tactics) system.
Thing about the head butt is to drive your forehead into the nose area.
You do not want to head but forehead to forehead, because their forehead is also thick.
Plus if the opponent turns his face down to your incoming headbutt, you can suffer damage as a result of contacting the thicker bone of his skull.
It is strictly for forehead to face striking and should be done at very close range and very quickly so that the opponent does not see it coming, or after a previous technique that has distracted the opponent from your next possible strike.
Do you really want to do that with the part of your anatomy that you Think with?
Why not? Your forehead bone is 10 times tougher than his nose cartilage. The elbow is your most lethal weapon because not only it is strong, it can reach his face easier than a kick.
Let’s treat him seriously.
He’s a professional. Why I bet he’d last about 1.5 seconds longer with a professional MMA fighter than I would.
I’m not sure what you mean, by “let’s treat him seriously”
I don’t see any comparison to MMA at all, where head butts are banned, and competitors need to be well rounded in many disciples including wresting and submissions. This is street survival fighting. Of course people are going to have opinions as to whether or not these are good techniques or not. Sure he probably couldn’t beat a professional UFC fighter - couldn’t beat a .45 double tap to the chest either - so?
You have to take my whole comment in context. I didn’t say that he’d last long against a professional MMA fighter, just 1.5 seconds longer than me. :)
>>You have to take my whole comment in context
I was trying to - I just couldn’t understand all of it!
Let me explain it to you simply.
However long I can last, or not, he would last about 1.5 seconds longer. If I can run around the ring, for a minute, he’ll be down in 1:01.5. If I’m down ten seconds, he’ll be down in 11.5 seconds.
In other words, what the man is preaching, is pretty worthless information.
When I saw the movie “Gangs of New York” I saw a style of fighting that nobody dares to talk about, like cutting a hamstring muscle.
I think there is a lot of misinformation - but that the misinformation is about MMA being some sort of self-defense panacea. MMA is a reality-based sport, but it is still a sport. And yes, while I agree with you that in a ring someone like Paul Vunak would probably not win against a good MMA fighter, I can also guarantee that in a street fight that MMA fighter would not last ten seconds against someone like Paul Vunak.
Why? Because MMA is a sport. That is why gloves are won. That is why there are certain rules ...eg some of the very tools Paul Vunak advocates (e.g. fingers to the eye, scrotum pulls, bites to the throat - techniques he has taught to various government agencies such as the FBI's HRT and the Navy SEALS) are banned in MMA. Because MMA is a sport!
Yet many people in the fighting arts always try to downgrade people by bringing up the 'if it is so effective why don't we see it in the UFC.' Well, because it wouldn't work too good in the UFC. For one gloves prevent eye jabs (which are banned anyways), dropping knees to the throat are illegal, and it is quite difficult to bite a nose off with a mouthguard on (any anyways that is illegal too ...and as for biting, one of the things Vunak teaches is kinomutai, which is uninterrupted biting. He had an interesting exercise where he had someone strap a side of beef to his side - interesting what damage aggressive biting can do. Oh, and yes - it is disgusting, but when someone has you in a jujitsu hold it is an easy way to get out, and if it wasn't effective the FBI's HRT wouldn't be wasting time and money learning it).
I am not knocking MMA. I guess the mix of styles I take could be called MMA-ish. However, MMA is not a sport, and why I agree that what Paul Vunak teaches, or what various teachers of systems like Kali and Krav Maga teach, would not be too effective in the ring (since many of the tools they espouse are limited due to gloves or illegal due to rules), I think it is quite short-sighted (to put it kindly) to say that it is 'pretty worthless information.' Why? Because it is not a ring sport? Interesting then that basically all the CQB hand to hand systems taught to Tier 1 and Tier 2 special operations are similar/same to what Paul Vunak teaches. Interesting that they are learning 'pretty worthless information.' To get to anything similar to MMA you have to get to regular armed forces, such as MCMAP for the Marine Corps and US Army Combatives. The moment you get into special operations they are not learning MMA-esque MCMAP, but rather the worthless techniques people like Paul Vunak teach, with Vunak being one of the teachers in the past. Same with the Israelis - the various Sayaret units would be quite interested to learn how worthless the Krav Maga and KAPAP they have been learning for so long is a waste of time, and how they need to go to the Lion's Den or similar MMA gyms and learn how to do a Kimura lock on someone trying to kill them with a surprise knife attack before they could get their firearm. I'm sure they should be teaching MMA style ground-and-pound, or maybe MMA/BBJ spider ground defense (after it works so well for the Gracies) to Tier 1 and 2 operators rather than what they learn. After all, MMA works so well that Ryan Gracie, who died in a jail cell after a bad reaction to medicine given after he was hit in the head by a person that Ryan had tried to steal a motorcycle from, should simply have told that guy to stop hitting him in the head and instead use legal (for MMA and BJJ, though not the street) moves like getting into the Guard position. After all, had the guy trying to stop Ryan Gracie from stealing his motorcycle used MMA techniques Ryan would be alive today. Unfortunately the man used worthless moves that wouldn't work in the ring, and Ryan Gracie died.
Seriously - saying someone is teaching worthless stuff because it is not MMA is quite shortsighted. Especially considering who some of the consumers of this 'worthless' stuff are, and the fact that the only place you'll get MMA style techniques in the military is in normal units. The moment you go into more specialized units they start teaching them more vicious CQB H2H systems, and MMA is laughed at there.
That is why gloves are won = that is why gloves are worn.
Pencak Silat and/or Shaolin Kung Fu... the only way to learn...
If you have a good Silat/Kuntao/Kali guro/guru then you are in a nice place. Many of the knife techniques are truly good. A friend of mine in Kenya is flying to the Philippines to study Pekiti Tirsia Kali with GM Leo Gaje, who teaches his 'worthless skill' to the Filipino special forces. I guess they should simply go do MMA instead.
Slicing the inside of the thigh will cause death by bleeding, but maybe not fast enough to save you from the attacker. If you are down and manage to get a blade out, cutting behind the ankle or knee can give effect. Stabbing under the armpit can reach the lungs, and I’ve been told causes such pain as to possibly stop the confrontation. Just my thoughts, but the under the arm stab could be an effective first strike against someone wearing protection?
Fast and repetitive blows of any kind are better than thinking about what you are going to do.
A thumb to the eye does more damage than a fist, and almost everyone will let go and protect their eyes. A great thing for women to remember.
Hard parts to soft or crunchy parts is an age old fighting technique. Yes, a head butt to the face or the side of the head does far more damage to the receiver than the giver.
A throat punch well delivered will incapacitate anyone and may kill them without medical care after.
The nose, eyes, and throat are not protected by muscle or fat, where getting to a strong fat man’s other vitals can be very tough. I think many women overestimate the groin kick, as its easy to miss the mark, and its just painful, not necessarily debilitating.
All street fighting techniques do serious damage, which is why they are banned from boxing, wrestling, etc.
my favorite technique is gone pow chicken, extra spicy.
I run from danger like my privates are on fire!
>>A thumb to the eye does more damage than a fist, and almost everyone will let go and protect their eyes.
The thing is, though, that defensiveness about the eyes applies during a confrontation/fight as well. People as you say, protect their eyes. I think the emphasis in the video on head butts is because people don’t instinctively protect themselves from them, especially if you can distract them with those fast and repetitive blows you mentioned, and even if they try to, defending from the head butt is not only tougher, but the movements required to do so makes a person vulnerable in other areas.
But sometimes there is no place to run. Then you gotta have some kind of backup plan.
Backup plan provided by Mr’s Smith and Wesson.
I have been in several self-defense scenarios and than the head butt the best is a slap rather than a punch (to the head only, won’t do much on ribs). You run a 50/50 shot of breaking a bone in your hand whereas a slap not only lowers that risk it also provides you an easy transition into a knife hand block or grabbing move. Also, a well delivered slap will water eyes so quick it makes your head spin.
Also, never kick above the waist, you open yourself up for a wide range of attacks.
That Glock trumps everything.
Did you watch the video? It’s all head butts, slaps, knees, and a couple of low kicks. Exactly what you are describing.
Sure (not a Glock - I hate ‘em!) a S&W or preferably .45 Colt Commander would be nice, but that’s not always possible due to various circumstances.
Yes, I agree about the head butt being unexpected. For a smaller person, who has just had their arms trapped to their sides or grabbed, it is about the only shot at breaking loose.
My company blocks most videos. Sometimes I see them most of time I cannot.
As an aside, Paul Vunak’s martial arts background is centered around Bruce Lee’s Jeet Kun Do, which is a very infighting oriented, energy conserving style much like Ed Parker’s American Kenpo.
It was very different from Lee’s movie screen martial arts which was very flashy and showy, visually more interesting.
Master Parker did a movie with Hapkido Master Bong Soo Han, called “Kill the Golden Goose”, which was terribly hard to film, because most of the action takes place in the small area between two opponents. Almost too fast to see at normal speed.
So, it was true to life, a movie for martial artists instead of for martial arts movies fans.
Now that was funny...
Back story on that scene was that he had eaten something that didn’t wish to stay with him... he needed a toilet, he said that there was an entire fight scene choreographed and practiced... but he had to go... therefore that “aw crap” look on his face after he shot the guy
Dig fingers into area between the jaws and ears and press in like hell. try it on yourself.
Fast, double handed, cupped hand, ear slaps are debilitating/disorienting and can lead to deafness on the opponent.
I’ve studied Vunak’s techniques. The thing that makes them work is you’ve got 8 basic moves to learn, and they are not extremely complex. You don’t have five or six steps to do something, you have one uncomplicated move. The other thing, noting your Bruce Lee reference, is the physical distance where the fighting takes place. Lee narrowed the distance from where it normally took place and had an advantage over other fighters of the day whose styles required them to have more room to set up moves and longer attack and defense times.
Also Vunak expressed in his teaching you do what you need to do so that you can get away, not stay and keep fighting.
And I should clarify that while you only have 8 moves to remember, you can chain them into a vast array of moves, pretty much endless combinations. See a leg opening, use one of several leg moves. See an opening for a head move of one kind or another, use a head move. Can you do a move that dislocates the elbow? or breaks a foot arch? Do that move.
Then get the hell outta there.
Ping for later...
Years ago a FReeper here told a story in third person (to protect the guilty) of being mugged by four guys in the Philippines and taking out an Achilles tendon on each one with a Spyderco folder knife.