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Obama and Morsi: Separated at Birth
Sultan Knish ^ | December 06, 2012 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 12/06/2012 5:53:51 AM PST by expat1000

In Cairo, Morsi scribbles his decrees and in Washington DC, Obama scribbles his. There is an ocean between the two men, but there is a good deal that they have in common. Both are ideologues who piggybacked on public outrage over the national impact of international economic declines to climb to power and pursue their true agendas.

Without worries about the price of bread, the odds are good that Mubarak would be sitting in his old place and Morsi would be looking over the latest economic reports from the Brotherhood's business networks and front groups. And without a sharp decline in American living standards, Mubarak would be receiving phone calls from President McCain urging him to democratize Egypt, while Obama would be rallying the troops at the latest SEIU event for taking back Congress.

Times of crisis are political hunting grounds for extremist groups whose ideologies would otherwise be unpalatable. Angry people are more willing to accept the previously unacceptable to shake up the system and punish those that they blame for their economic situation. They are in the long run, only punishing themselves, but the long run rarely wins elections. The short run however is the all-time ballot box winner.

But the problem with running on the old Bolshy platform of "Land, Bread and Peace" is that the people eventually expect you to deliver at least two of three. And ideologues are not interested in empowering people. They will hand out subsidized freebies to their supporters to win elections, but they won't empower them economically, outside their network of subsidies, and peace is never on the table with folks who believe utopia is just a hundred years of war away.

There is a point midway between the cheering for hope and change, and the complete consolidation of power in the hands of a tyrannical system when the tyrant is vulnerable. That window is the one that opens when the people begin realizing that there is no land, bread or peace on the horizon. Their eyes haven't opened, but their patience has run out.

Morsi has tried to cut the duration of the window as narrowly as possibly by moving quickly to consolidate his power, but that brought on a second crisis and a wave of popular protests. Triggering those protests prematurely may have been his plan, but that plan may have also backfired. The only way to tell will be retroactively.

Obama's ObamaCare power grab was generally held to be premature, but even though the majority continues to oppose it, the man behind the program survived an election thanks to a hurricane and plenty of voter fraud. Morsi may similarly be able to survive his own power grab. An Islamist is, if nothing else, absolutely immune from the sort of human emotions that animate normal leaders.

The advantage of being an ideologue is that you simply do not care what infidels think and anyone who is not a member of your mental club is an infidel. Transnationalists, whether of the leftist or Islamist flavor, are men who live without a country. Their country is an imaginary global utopia, the infinite Reich of dreams, the Caliphate of their conspiracies and the World Revolution that can never be.

That disregard is what allows men like Obama and Morsi to survive the widespread hatred and contempt of a country, to sneeringly dismiss it, and get on with the program of taking it over. Bush and Mubarak could be hurt by how their own countrymen saw them. But Obama is not an American and Morsi is not an Egyptian. Obama is a Progressive and Morsi is an Islamist. Their approach to anyone outside that circle is limited to distinguishing between potential converts and useful idiots.

Bad leaders can be protested out of office. Ideologues can only be forced out of office. And that isn't easy. Any movement with enough money, skills and leverage to take their man all the way to the top is not going to fold just because the streets are full of protesters or because legal action is being taken against them. The cadre of such movements consists of men with no regard for any of laws of a society and who are entirely willing to destroy a country rather than give it up.

America in the 1950s briefly woke up to the fact that any measure had to be taken to keep the Reds away from power... or there would be no America left. Egyptians understood this about the Muslim Brotherhood all along and took many of those measures, until we forced Egypt to dismantle its defenses, as we dismantled our own. Obama and Morsi are the consequences of that unilateral disarmament.

Obama and Morsi are not individuals, they are the representatives of political movements that have spent the better part of a century clambering to power. Their brushes with the law have made them cunning and their rise to power after so long have fed their sense of historical destiny. To them these are more than momentary political triumphs, but the culmination of history. They do not see ballot boxes, but the inevitable march of progress and prophecy that must be fulfilled by any means necessary.

It is not surprising that Obama and Morsi, two men who hail from the same continent and a related cultural milieu, have gotten along so well with one another. Their interests do not precisely align, but they can appreciate a colleague working in the same field of revolution. But the mutual friendship may prove to be more harmful to Morsi than to Obama.

While conservatives and counterjihadists denounce Obama for his support for Morsi, until Morsi goes the way of Iran and begins seizing American hostages, most Americans will simply not care. Egyptians, on the other hand, like most of the region, have the usual Anti-American instincts and the same Gaza ceasefire that won Morsi a blank check from Obama to do as he wished domestically also convinced many Egyptians that Morsi was Obama's poodle.

The same window that prevents Morsi from exerting total control over the country, also prevents him from making a complete break with America. Morsi needed Obama to bail out the Egyptian economy and now Obama is dragging Morsi down. Positive views of America fell to 19 percent in Egypt in 2012 making Anti-Americanism into a viable proposition. Not that it ever wasn't.

Morsi however also has the same ace in the deck as Obama. Class warfare. Islamists reliably draw their support from the poor. The Muslim Brotherhood's background was linked to feudal landholders, but it has successfully reinvented itself as the party of the rural fellaheen. The flow of the rural poor into Turkey's major cities allowed the Islamist AKP to take over Turkey. And Morsi is not proposing a referendum because he expects to lose.

Americans weren't ready for a reversal after four years. Will Egyptians be ready to cast down Morsi after a much shorter period?

Obama's work has taken longer and gone slower because there is much more of it to do. America started out at a higher point than Egypt and it will take it a while to hit bottom. Morsi has less to dismantle and is working against lower expectations in a country where freedom is a slogan, not a tangible experience.

The 21st Century has been surprisingly good to Islamists and leftists. The fall of the Soviet Union opened a power vacuum that the Islamists filled and allowed the left to sell its agenda in a world where the gulag was no longer a relevant term. Of the two groups the leftists have a shorter future, at least in areas that fall under Islamist control, but their Islamist alliances have also given them a new lease on life.

The leftists have taught class warfare to the Islamists and the Islamists have revived the left's critiques of foreign policy as imperialism by providing them with a global identity group that fills the hole left behind by the end of the Cold War. It is not surprising then to see Obama and Morsi working so well together... or following the same path.

Transnationalist movements are predatory. They strike at a weak period in a nation's history with the aim of tearing apart the country. But a country so weak and dissolute as to remain under the dominion of transnationalist movements is also too corrupted to be very much use. The Communists could never make much of Russia or China. It took a transition to capitalism to do that. And the only thing that transnationalists will be able to make of America or Egypt is to harness both countries for the sheer manpower and the leftover weapons.

Obama, Morsi and the forces behind them have power, but they have no future. Their reign can only end in one of two ways. Either the country becomes vigorous enough to cast them off and rebuild, or it will not, and the Islamists and the leftists will go down into the darkness with it. Every utopian dream sooner or later ends in a nightmare. The question is whether it will be a nightmare only for the leftist and Islamist movements or for the countries that they take over. Daniel Greenfield is a New York City based writer and blogger and a Shillman Journalism Fellow of the David Horowitz Freedom Center.


TOPICS: Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: bho44; cairo; egypt; husseinobama; morsi; muslimworld

1 posted on 12/06/2012 5:53:54 AM PST by expat1000
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2 posted on 12/06/2012 5:54:47 AM PST by expat1000
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To: expat1000

We’re witnessing Green Revolution 2. Mubarak had to go because he was a dictator and there were protests. And now?


3 posted on 12/06/2012 5:55:40 AM PST by Andrei Bulba (No Obama, no way!)
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To: expat1000

This is an excellent analysis!


4 posted on 12/06/2012 5:59:46 AM PST by loveitor.. ("I will leave with the greatest love for this country of ours..." Ronald Reagan)
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To: expat1000

This is an excellent analysis!


5 posted on 12/06/2012 5:59:46 AM PST by loveitor.. ("I will leave with the greatest love for this country of ours..." Ronald Reagan)
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To: expat1000

This is an excellent analysis!


6 posted on 12/06/2012 5:59:46 AM PST by loveitor.. ("I will leave with the greatest love for this country of ours..." Ronald Reagan)
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To: expat1000

O exhalted sultan, you are a lot more hopeful than I am. I.e. that the left’s reign will be a short one.


7 posted on 12/06/2012 6:00:55 AM PST by squarebarb ( Fairy tales are basically true.)
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To: Andrei Bulba; expat1000
That disregard is what allows men like Obama and Morsi to survive the widespread hatred and contempt of a country, to sneeringly dismiss it, and get on with the program of taking it over. Bush and Mubarak could be hurt by how their own countrymen saw them. But Obama is not an American and Morsi is not an Egyptian. Obama is a Progressive and Morsi is an Islamist. Their approach to anyone outside that circle is limited to distinguishing between potential converts and useful idiots.

This was a very interesting observation and I think it is perhaps one of the most accurate descriptions of these two and their ilk. One of the reasons that Obama doesn't act as if he cares about America is that he doesn't - he's not an American, not only because he probably wasn't born here and certainly wasn't brought up here (as he himself acknowledges), but because he really doesn't see his allegiance as to his country but instead as to his program.

That said, in both cases there is also the sheer, raw personal desire for power. So while people like Hitler, Stalin, Morsi, and Obama may on the one hand be ideology driven, on the other, they really think they are something special individually and that they somehow deserve to be in power and crush anyone, even in their ideological group, who does not worship them.

8 posted on 12/06/2012 6:05:11 AM PST by livius
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To: Andrei Bulba
Mubarak had to go because he was a dictator and there were protests. And now?

And now, Morsi (0bama's man), does this to protestors ... Army Ultimatum: Get off the streets ...


9 posted on 12/06/2012 6:07:20 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: expat1000

Actually,there’s one big difference.Morsi has a less compliant media!


10 posted on 12/06/2012 6:12:03 AM PST by Dr. Ursus
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To: expat1000
I have been saying for awhile that Obama is channeling Hugo Chavez. Obama has now created a mini me in Morsi and many will die. Egyptian leftists are useful idiots and can now be cast under the bus and Egyptian Christians who oppose Morsi can be killed with impunity. Obama is supplying Morsi with money and international cover to carry out his purge.

Obama is also working steadily toward the day when he can rewrite the US constitution and eliminate the Congress as a real third branch of government here, as well. The GOP are a bunch of kindergarten school cops and either don't understand what they are up against or are collaborators.

11 posted on 12/06/2012 6:18:22 AM PST by Truth29
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To: loveitor..
It is very interesting and also very scary.

But to me the big question is how did this happen?

Most replies to that are off the mark.

I see the answer hidden somewhere in the following:

We have obumbler, a pot smoking coke sniffing slacker in college who then becomes a “community organizer”, polite term for rabblerouser, ending up as president.

Now forget the speeches, the flawless use of the teleprompter, the voting dead, etc., and ask yourself:

Who is the master strategist behind all of this? Who is the master chess player who has figured out all of the proper moves, years in advance, that causes all of the right openings for this very ordinary street punk at the right time?

Look at how Libya and Egypt have turned out and now Syria.

Jordan will probably be next.

The way obumblercare came to be was very carefully worked out ahead of time and done so by a very clever person or persons.

This is not the work of a street punk. It is the work of a master chess player.

Who?

12 posted on 12/06/2012 6:28:39 AM PST by old curmudgeon
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To: expat1000
Obama and Morsi: Separated at Birth

The big difference is that the Egyptians are out demonstrating to remove Morsi to save their freedom; in the US, the only demonstrations you would see is if Hussein were removed. We've grown far too soft!

13 posted on 12/06/2012 6:32:02 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty ( What have you heard about Fast and Furious or Benghazi lately?)
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To: old curmudgeon

No one person. A team.


14 posted on 12/06/2012 6:34:58 AM PST by squarebarb ( Fairy tales are basically true.)
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To: expat1000

Obama and Morsi: the destructive dual dictators.

Morsi writes his own Constitution, Obama ignores our Constitution.

Which of the two dictators will achieve ABSOLUTE POWER first?

Since Obama has boot-licker Boehner groveling to ‘just make a deal, ANY deal,’ on the Obama Spending Cliff, I guessing that ol’ Benghazi-Coward Obama has the advantage.


15 posted on 12/06/2012 6:37:58 AM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: old curmudgeon

I used to laugh at conspiracy theorists. Now I think the laugh is on me.

I remember - can’t forget actually, when zero was a junior senator in his first year, and for some reason was FNC’s guy to go to for the ‘rat talking points - and he’d get an intro as an ‘up and comer’. Frequently.

I was like, “Huh? WTF is going on? Why is even Fox promoting this loser?” And then the “why” became, like you, the “who”. And still is.


16 posted on 12/06/2012 6:59:04 AM PST by expat1000
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To: old curmudgeon
As a Christian, I see circumstances through the prism of the Word of God. With the rise of the Islamists, with their tacit Russian support, you can see the prophesies of Ezekiel 38:1-6 coming to fruition. Add to this the Globalists push for a one world currency with the eventual mandatory mark(RFID chip?) as foreseen in Revelation 13 :16-18( which the recent and imminent manipulated economic crisis's will be their excuse/ impetus), you have your answer...a cabal that is unwittingly being used to bring about God's ultimate judgment and plan of salvation for mankind.
17 posted on 12/06/2012 7:55:56 AM PST by loveitor.. ("I will leave with the greatest love for this country of ours..." Ronald Reagan)
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To: expat1000
Morsi might have to go at some point, but the Muslim Brotherhood won't leave without a major civil war.

The Brotherhood is in the process of achieving totalitarian control of Egypt.

Keep in mind that the Muslim Brotherhood has been guided from its very beginning -- SINCE 1928 -- by the goal of a Caliphate that seeks unity in obedience to its Supreme Guide.

The Muslim Brothers will do in Egypt exactly what the "Muslim Devotees" did in Iran: establish an islamic Republic.

That goal of totalitarian control by way of the Caliphate was expressed by the Brotherhood's founder, Hassan al Banna, in a famous formula:

The genius of al-Banna has been his method, how carefully he organized the secret Society of the Muslim Brothers into various sub-groups, and the discipline exercised by the Supreme Guide and its Bureau of Guidance.

Gamal al-Banna, the younger brother of the Muslim Brotherhood's founder

Its disciplined, hierarchical organization enabled the Brotherhood to pursue the Caliphate productively through many years, including extended periods when it was subject to oppression.

Now the Brotherhood has infiltrated every relevant institutions of Egypt: not only the army, the police and the media, but also colleges, coffehouses, powerful families, etc.

See Leadership and Allegiance in the Society of the Muslim, Brothers by Lella Landau-Tasseron, for more details on the secret organization of the Brotherhood

The mission of the Caliphate and the extraordinary organization of the Brotherhood were derived from the "prophet" muhammad, his companions and a few subsequent caliphs. Following this model, al-Banna had his organization adhered to the guidance of Umar, the second caliph, who had said "there is no islam without a Society of Brothers, no Society without an Imam, and no Imam without complete obedience."

Umar went on to become the organizer of the greatest of the early islamic conquests, and of a Caliphate that had endured for a 1000 years...

Al-Banna followed that model when he crafted the Muslim Brotherhood. So Egypt will turn out exactly like Iran.

I don't say the Brotherhood will stay 1000 years in power, but it will stay much longer than most people seem to think.

18 posted on 12/06/2012 7:57:40 AM PST by Katechon
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To: expat1000; LucyT; little jeremiah; azishot
Obama's work has taken longer and gone slower because there is much more of it to do. America started out at a higher point than Egypt and it will take it a while to hit bottom. Morsi has less to dismantle and is working against lower expectations in a country where freedom is a slogan, not a tangible experience.

Missed the most important difference. Americans are born and raised FREE AND ARMED!

19 posted on 12/06/2012 8:20:43 AM PST by melancholy (Professor Alinsky, Enslavement Specialist, Ph.D. in L0w and H0lder)
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To: livius

“.....he’s not an American, not only because he probably wasn’t born here and certainly wasn’t brought up here (as he himself acknowledges), but because he really doesn’t see his allegiance as to his country but instead as to his program.”

Which brings to mind even if he was in fact born in Hawaii it is a far cry from mainland America. Hawaii is a land as foreign to America as most other foreign lands, and the fact that he admittedly spent so much of his youth outside of America as well it’s very understandable that he doesn’t know what being an American really is.

This guy is so wrong for this country. IF he is an American, he isn’t.


20 posted on 12/06/2012 9:04:29 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Katechon
Thanks for an excellent post.

said "there is no islam without a Society of Brothers, no Society without an Imam, and no Imam without complete obedience."

I guess we're seeing Obama's model for action.

21 posted on 12/06/2012 9:06:20 AM PST by livius
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To: expat1000
Obama:Give me Dictatorial Powers or I’ll Take your Country out
22 posted on 12/06/2012 9:21:07 AM PST by opentalk
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To: livius
I posted this on another thread. I'm fishing for information here... regarding Jarrett and the Brotherhood.

Do you guys have any information?

http://newsflavor.com/politics/us-politics/the-ulsterman-report-valerie-jarrett-and-the-muslim-brotherhood/ Image 1273

Valerie Jarrett gave the keynote address at the 46th annual convention of the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA) last July -- which is a known MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD affiliate.

In June 2009, she also invited ISNA President Ingrid Mattson to work on the White House Council on Women and Girls, which she leads.

See Pamela Gellers the-muslim-brotherhood’s-penetration-of-the-obama-administration/.

23 posted on 12/06/2012 9:21:58 AM PST by Katechon
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To: Katechon
See Pamela Gellers the-muslim-brotherhood’s-penetration-of-the-obama-administration/.

Where is Michele Bachmann these days? Something silenced her.

24 posted on 12/06/2012 9:37:32 AM PST by arasina (Communism is EVIL. So there.)
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To: Katechon
The genius of al-Banna has been his method, how carefully he organized the secret Society of the Muslim Brothers into various sub-groups, and the discipline exercised by the Supreme Guide and its Bureau of Guidance.

You might say he was a "community organizer".

25 posted on 12/06/2012 9:40:14 AM PST by arasina (Communism is EVIL. So there.)
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To: loveitor..
Obama, Morsi and the forces behind them have power, but they have no future. Their reign can only end in one of two ways. Either the country becomes vigorous enough to cast them off and rebuild, or it will not, and the Islamists and the leftists will go down into the darkness with it. Every utopian dream sooner or later ends in a nightmare. The question is whether it will be a nightmare only for the leftist and Islamist movements or for the countries that they take over.

Greenfield's amazing...

26 posted on 12/07/2012 9:55:01 AM PST by GOPJ (The economy is so bad MSNBC had to lay off 300 Obama spokesmen - Leno)
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