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How The Soviets Eliminated Christmas - And, America Is Right On Track Doing The Same
JoeClarke.Net ^ | 12/06/2012 | JoeClarke.Net

Posted on 12/06/2012 8:58:12 AM PST by joeclarke


The carton below is from Soviet Communist Russian times. You can see how the capitalist system is depicted as slavery - the opposite of how communism works, IE., free money, multiplied and returned to the worker - in the right frame. Tell me Obama does not think differently.

And, as many Americans kill off Christmas as the celebration of the birth of Jesus, so the Soviets replaced Saint Nick with "Father Frost" - a man who gives out presents because he is a generous communist.

From Wikipedia Ded Moroz
"Following the Russian Revolution, Christmas traditions were actively discouraged because they were considered to be "bourgeois and religious".[8]Similarly, in 1928 Ded Moroz was declared "an ally of the priest and kulak".[9]Nevertheless, the image of Ded Moroz took its current form during Soviet times, becoming the main symbol of the New Year’s holiday that replaced Christmas. Some Christmas traditions were revived following the famous letter by Pavel Postyshev, published in Pravda on December 28, 1935.[8] Postyshev believed that the origins of the holiday, which were pre-Christian in any case, were less important than the benefits it could bring to Soviet children.[9] In 1937, a man playing Ded Moroz arrived at the Moscow Palace of Unions for the first time. Joseph Stalin ordered Palace of Unions' Ded Morozes to wear only blue coats, so that they would not be mistaken for Santa Claus.[10] During Stalinist times, Ded Moroz, Snegurochka (or "Snow Maiden"), and New Year Boy were featured in Communist-type Nativity scenes, or public appearances, with Ded Moroz as the equivalent of Joseph, Snegurochka as the equivalent of Mary, and the New Year Boy as the equivalent of the Christ child.[11]
During the period of the Soviet Union's dominance over Eastern Europe, Ded Moroz was introduced to many nations. Following the fall of the Soviet Union, there have been efforts to revive local characters."

So, we have many more American secularists demanding that Christ be extracted from Christmas. And I might say, they all voted for Obama and other Democrats.

Below, Soviet "Father Frost" Replacement For Christian Saint Nicholas who was an actual Christian Bishop in Turkey - before Moslem invasion.
Below, is the Soviet "Nativity Scene" depicting Father Frost, the Snow Maiden (Mary's replacement), and no Jesus. The Communists sometimes added "New Year"  Boy to make it  more resemble a Nativity Scene.
Here is the Soviet Communist Russian "New Year Boy" (Jesus replacement) rightly showing his hind-end to the world.


TOPICS: Government; History; Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: antichristmas; atheists; communists; democrats; idiocracy; liberals; merrychristmas; nativity; russia; sackacrap; soviet; theleft; ussr

1 posted on 12/06/2012 8:58:15 AM PST by joeclarke
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To: joeclarke
My parents and grandparents were Ukranian. We always celebrated "Little Christmas" in addition to the American counterpart.

Russia is still very religious and Putin has encouraged it.

2 posted on 12/06/2012 9:02:22 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: joeclarke

First you kill all the symbols.


3 posted on 12/06/2012 9:03:17 AM PST by Anima Mundi (Envy is just passive, lazy greed.)
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To: joeclarke

Hey, THANKS!!!!

I plan to print this out and send to my socialist relative instead of a Christmas card.

(the relative speaks Russian, but, being a lib, may not get the full appreciation of my motivation for sending it!)


5 posted on 12/06/2012 9:13:20 AM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: F15Eagle
Most Americans know far more about Black Friday than they do about the Gospel

I never heard the day after Thanksgiving referred to as Black Friday until around the mid-2000's. Now, it's becoming a bigger holiday than Thanksgiving.

6 posted on 12/06/2012 9:14:54 AM PST by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: Fiji Hill
Yep. And ten years ago, people didn't eat Thanksgiving dinner by the Christmas tree. This year I walked around my area and counted quite a few houses with Christmas lights blazing a WEEK before Thanksgiving, and even more with a tree visible through the window.

I just can't get into the proper spirit when it is still 1.5 months away. And I think when the proper time to celebrate does come, for people who have been 'Christmasing' for months already it feels jaded, like a mere formality to finally just get it over with.

7 posted on 12/06/2012 9:22:08 AM PST by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12)
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To: joeclarke

I was watching a one hour youtube video just yesterday called “The Lost World of Communism” and it occurred to me that this was exactly what the progressives in this country want for all of us...it’s chilling!

You will notice the similarities to dems/progressives throughout this video. Unless something happens we will see the day they build a wall to keep those with money and or brains from being able to leave their socialist utopia.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dFdKjhgt3k


8 posted on 12/06/2012 9:30:19 AM PST by Bobalu (It is not obama we are fighting, it is the media.)
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To: Bobalu

There was a scene in “Europa, Europa”, that took place in a Soviet classroom...the teacher asked the children to pray to Jesus for candy, and of course, none appeared....then she asked the children to ask Comrade Stalin for candy, and then candy started falling from the ceiling...and from what I heard, that was pretty standard in Soviet schools for the teacher to do this.


9 posted on 12/06/2012 9:34:25 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Anima Mundi
They will need to kill me to get me to stop.

I will practice my Faith as I see fit. I am willing to both die, and kill(in defense of course), to continue doing so freely.

10 posted on 12/06/2012 9:34:54 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Bobalu

bfl


11 posted on 12/06/2012 9:35:26 AM PST by VRW Conspirator (We were the tea party before there was a tea party. - Jim Robinson)
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To: All

Didn’t the Puritans ban Christmas at one time here in America???


12 posted on 12/06/2012 10:12:15 AM PST by KevinDavis (And you, be ye fruitful, and multiply; bring forth abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein.)
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To: joeclarke

The nazis stripped out the Christianity and changed Christmas to “Julfest” - a celebration of their pagan past.


13 posted on 12/06/2012 10:18:43 AM PST by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: dfwgator

http://blog.heritage.org/2010/06/04/statue-of-joseph-stalin-to-be-erected-in-virginia/


14 posted on 12/06/2012 10:20:16 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: joeclarke

Christmas in in the heart. What are they gonna do? Cut our hearts out?


15 posted on 12/06/2012 10:28:00 AM PST by MestaMachine (It's the !!!!TREASON!!!!, stupid!)
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To: joeclarke

Ded Moroz would be “Grandpa Frost.” I remember reading an account of what it was like in one of the satellite countries after the Communists took over—instead of the traditional Christmas figures the children were taught about Grandpa Frost.


16 posted on 12/06/2012 10:30:54 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: dfwgator

Look up the 1957 Soviet animated cartoon “The Snow Queen”.

In it, goodness is literally frozen out of a child’s heart.

An unintended depiction of what communism does to the human spirit, IMO.


17 posted on 12/06/2012 10:56:00 AM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: F15Eagle; All

So???


18 posted on 12/06/2012 11:23:46 AM PST by KevinDavis (And you, be ye fruitful, and multiply; bring forth abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein.)
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To: Bobalu

Watch “Cargo 200” (a Soviet Air Force codename for a dead soldier transported from a warzone) feature movie if you want a realistic portrayal of life under decomposing socialist society. It might have a weird plot but the scenery is extremely brilliant in recreating a dilapidated town in ‘84 Soviet Union down to a small detail.

Director and producer claimed their mission was to adress growing nostalgy for Soviet Union in modern Russia. People has to remember how ugly it really was.

http://stagevu.com/video/fupdpbyefpaw

Here is a review from GreenCineDaily:

http://daily.greencine.com/archives/007273.html

That is a review on IMBD from Romanian user:

>>>>>>10 February 2009 | by OhneDich (Romania) – See all my reviews

It is a film about the death of totalitarianism in separately taken country. Year 1984, the life gloom of the Soviet power was condensed to the limit... Those who lived in USSR may cry when watching it. It is so cruel and at the same time so true. Every single part of you will tremble in the watching process. It is inspired from real facts, won’t let anybody indifferent, I mean for those who knows at least something about the cinematography... Roles are played perfectly, just how it was meant to be played. People with weak heart and people that loves American Pie series, skip it, you won’t like it anyway. For the rest, what can I say, you HAVE to see this movie. 9 out of 10<<<<


20 posted on 12/09/2012 4:15:14 AM PST by cunning_fish
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To: cunning_fish

Thank you for telling me of this film!

I found a nice copy on youtube complete with english subtitles.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7b9O1CcQ2U


21 posted on 12/09/2012 8:39:00 AM PST by Bobalu (It is not obama we are fighting, it is the media.)
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To: Bobalu

You are welcome. Thanks for a link, too.


22 posted on 12/09/2012 10:26:58 AM PST by cunning_fish
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To: dfwgator
There was a variation on this in "The Children's Story" by James Clavell.
23 posted on 12/09/2012 10:32:01 AM PST by thecodont
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks joeclarke.


24 posted on 12/15/2012 2:28:43 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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