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Clinton vows to thwart new Soviet Union
Financial Times ^ | December 6, 2012 | Charles Clover in Moscow

Posted on 12/07/2012 12:17:22 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

The US is trying to prevent Russia from recreating a new version of the Soviet Union under the ruse of economic integration, Hillary Clinton warned on Thursday.

“There is a move to re-Sovietise the region,” the US secretary of state told a news conference in Dublin hours before going into a meeting with her Russian counterpart, Sergei Lavrov.

“It’s not going to be called that. It’s going to be called a customs union, it will be called Eurasian Union and all of that,” she said, referring to various iterations of a Moscow-backed plan to deepen economic ties with its neighbours.

“But let's make no mistake about it. We know what the goal is and we are trying to figure out effective ways to slow down or prevent it.”

Mrs Clinton said efforts at regional hegemony had been accompanied by new campaigns of repression from pro-Moscow regimes throughout the former Soviet Union. Her tone signalled that the US was rethinking its “reset” in relations with Russia, declared in 2009, during which criticism of its human rights record has been muted and Moscow appeared to have a freer hand in the former Soviet region...

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TOPICS: Front Page News
KEYWORDS: antireagan; clintonlegacy; communism; hillary; obamaforeignpolicy; putin; russia; sovietreunion
Barry and Hillary as cold warriors? Not buyin' it.
1 posted on 12/07/2012 12:17:39 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"The US is trying to prevent Russia from recreating a new version of the Soviet Union ..."


No doubt loudly protesting with cries of "It's *OUR* turn!"
2 posted on 12/07/2012 12:20:55 AM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

She’s going against Obama already?


3 posted on 12/07/2012 12:25:00 AM PST by Tzimisce (What do you do when every every branch of the government is corrupt and aligned against you?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why would she expect Russia not to do what 0bama is doing to the U.S. here?


4 posted on 12/07/2012 12:27:48 AM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Only Hillbilly is a big enough screwup to re-start the Cold War where there is no reason to.


6 posted on 12/07/2012 12:35:02 AM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Does she have anything to say about Egypt and Morsi?


7 posted on 12/07/2012 12:45:14 AM PST by Ymani Cricket ("It is my experience that Senators focus only on pleasing those who fund their campaigns" Obi-Wan)
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To: TigersEye

Russia doesn’t have the wherewithal to restart the cold war. Russia would like to further ensnare Ukraine which is the second largest country in Europe. All we need to do is encourage the building of an LNG terminal. Once we start exporting natural gas to Ukraine we’ve given Russia an economic kick to the balls. Russia won’t be able to use natural gas as leverage against Europe not to mention they’ll see diminshed income.


8 posted on 12/07/2012 1:28:02 AM PST by meatloaf (Support Senate S 1863 & House Bill 1380 to eliminate oil slavery.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You can’t create a Caliphate and the Soviet Union at the same time. It’s about priorities.


9 posted on 12/07/2012 1:32:35 AM PST by Nota particle
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I guess Hillary is a little nervous. If America were to have a foreign enemy, people might start voting Republican again (over matters of national defense). With no foreign enemies, a majority will vote for the Democrats to give them free stuff.

I hate to say it, but the demise of the Soviet Union also brought about the demise of the Republican Party...


10 posted on 12/07/2012 2:06:37 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (Greed + Envy = Liberalism)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

She and the Boy King are now more flexible to deal with Russia.


11 posted on 12/07/2012 2:24:15 AM PST by 109ACS (If this be Treason, then make the most of it. Patrick Henry, May 1765)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

what a joke..she helped kill 4 Americans to preseve terrorist rule and her boss is in a hurry to out do Russia..


12 posted on 12/07/2012 2:37:29 AM PST by dalebert
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If PIAPS is as “successful” dealing with the Russkies as everyone else Red Dawn is a coming.
13 posted on 12/07/2012 2:47:54 AM PST by Happy Rain
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“But let’s make no mistake about it. We know what the goal is and we are trying to figure out effective ways to slow down or prevent it.”

You just might want to start in DC with your boss, odumble...


14 posted on 12/07/2012 3:11:15 AM PST by Adder (No, Mr. Franklin, we could NOT keep it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It's like the Space-Race all over again, but this time, the goal isn't the moon...it's Communism!
15 posted on 12/07/2012 3:19:41 AM PST by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: meatloaf
You are correct. Ukraine is also negotiating to join the European Union.

Two issues have strained relations with Russia.

1. Gas prices between Gazprom (R) and Naftogaz (U). The Russians use this like a hammer on Ukraine.

2. The port leases in Sevastopol and Odessa for the Black Sea Fleet. Russia has been double dealing on the lease.

Ukrainians are not Russian and do not want to re-affiliate. Also still too many bad memories of Stalin's "Holodomor" which left 10 million Ukrainians dead.

16 posted on 12/07/2012 3:26:21 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Barry and Hillary as cold warriors? Not buyin’ it.”

No kidding.


17 posted on 12/07/2012 3:54:27 AM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Is this a joke? She is in this.


18 posted on 12/07/2012 4:16:41 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

As with most Liberals...it’s pretty safe to assume that they are doing that of which they are accusing everyone else .

It’s the old shell game trick.....


19 posted on 12/07/2012 4:32:41 AM PST by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hillary and Obama don’t want any competition against the Soviet-Style USSA republic they are working on right here in Amerika.


20 posted on 12/07/2012 4:59:14 AM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hillary and Obama don’t want any competition against the Soviet-Style USSA republic they are working on right here in Amerika.- But at least we would be on the same side!


21 posted on 12/07/2012 5:00:14 AM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Righhhhhhht! Hillary can't even thwart her own husband from getting laid!

How the hell is she gonna stop Russia?

22 posted on 12/07/2012 6:05:28 AM PST by Cheapskate (Play loud and carry BIG sticks!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think the left hates Russia now because it is White, Christian, and they are blantantly non PC.


23 posted on 12/07/2012 6:46:22 AM PST by Hacksaw
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To: meatloaf

I believe you. So what the heckityhook is HillBilly talking about?


24 posted on 12/07/2012 7:10:46 AM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What ever happened to:


25 posted on 12/07/2012 7:14:12 AM PST by Mike Darancette (I don't understand why the Boomers are so passive.)
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To: TigersEye

It may have something to do with Russia supporting Syria while we’re providing support to the insurgents flooding into Syria. There’s supposed to be a sit down with Russia over Syria. My guess is Hilary and Obama will not interfere with Russia in Europe if Russia dumps Assad. That means no export licenses for LNG going to Europe.

Russia will still have their hooks into Europe and Obama buys another country for the Muslim Brotherhood. If RT shuts up about our interference in Syria, you’ll know it was a done deal. It looks like the Ukrainian government was recently scammed with a phony deal to build an LNG terminal. Some think the Russians were behind that.


26 posted on 12/07/2012 7:49:36 AM PST by meatloaf (Support Senate S 1863 & House Bill 1380 to eliminate oil slavery.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Is that the USSR or the USSA?


27 posted on 12/07/2012 7:59:52 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: meatloaf

I see. So HillBilly’s public chatter is partially cover for behind the scenes wrangling and partially a way to try and corner Russia into a better bargaining position???


28 posted on 12/07/2012 8:07:01 AM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: meatloaf

Very sharp analysis Meatloaf.

Who is “RT”?


29 posted on 12/07/2012 8:15:56 AM PST by helpfulresearcher (Socialism is just like any other form of corruption, except that it is perpetrated by a mob.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This maroon can’t even get her husband to keep his johnson in his pants.

Russia slowly closes the door and then breaks out laughing, glad that we Americans are stupid enough to put a woman like her in a position of power.


30 posted on 12/07/2012 8:25:19 AM PST by Delta Dawn (The whole truth.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Then why the F*** did Hillary surrender the Cold War and ask for a “reset”?

They are behind the Soviet Reunion. USSR2. USSRII. The USSA even.

Bunch of bullstalin if you ask me.


31 posted on 12/07/2012 8:39:50 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: TigersEye

Mission Accomplished.

1968 Communist Libtards Baby Boom Children are in charge and our nation (and the world) is f***ed.


32 posted on 12/07/2012 8:43:15 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: a fool in paradise

Well and truly!


33 posted on 12/07/2012 8:59:44 AM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

New (or reborn) Russian Empire.

Not the same. Dear God I hope someone at the State Department knows the difference.


34 posted on 12/07/2012 9:11:54 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: helpfulresearcher

Thanks! The Russian Television channel. It’s on satellite.


35 posted on 12/07/2012 9:18:54 AM PST by meatloaf (Support Senate S 1863 & House Bill 1380 to eliminate oil slavery.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

ROTFLMOL. Calling 1980’s to get their policy back? IIRC Barry ridiculed Romney for even mentioning the Soviet Union.

Now, they would have us believe that they finally understand the threat? Just proves what liars they are and how dumb they think we are.


36 posted on 12/07/2012 6:31:13 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wow....she’s REALLY REALLY TOUGH, isn’t she???

Don’ mess wif her... Dat’s like almost Presidential, or sumpin....

(what a Worthless dyke)


37 posted on 12/08/2012 8:43:02 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I don't know why, but I can only laugh at this story.
38 posted on 12/08/2012 9:59:37 PM PST by semaj
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I just read a commentary in a European paper warning that the world is seeing the return of Communism (in a new ‘enlightened’ form, of course), and Russia wasn’t even mentioned.


39 posted on 12/08/2012 10:02:38 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This fatso can’t even get her girdle on and she’s the Secretary of STEAK!

Rice will be an excellent choice as she doesn’t need a girdle but knows jack about matters of state.


40 posted on 12/09/2012 5:19:18 AM PST by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yep, she’s campaigning for 2016.


41 posted on 12/09/2012 12:06:13 PM PST by denydenydeny (Admiration of absolute government is proportionate to the contempt one has for others.-Tocqueville)
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