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Forget Tea Party Candidates, We Need Birther Candidates (Vanity)

Posted on 12/08/2012 8:13:39 AM PST by kreitzer

The GOP-e was shaken by the Tea Partyers a couple years back, but fought back and succeeded in pushing the Tea Partyers/Palin backers out of the convention and nominating their man Romney. But the Tea Partyers had some success, like Rand Paul, Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio. Who's to say a few well placed Birther candidates couldn't have some success? If we could field a few Birther candidates who promise to make the ineligibility of the current Commander-in-Chief a central issue, even if only one of them gets through the system it will be a 100% gain for conservatives. Simply focus on what the Founders meant by the term 'natural born citizen.' They would have to primary in Republican races in deep red districts to have a chance. This is achievable and 2014 will be here soon. I know I would donate to that candidate. It's time to start now!


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; gop; gope; gopelite; naturalborncitizen; obama
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To: kreitzer
Or what’s that of the credentialed Mark Levin? And what’s it based on?

I say the Great One's famous temper and admiration for Sen. Rubio are his reasons.

21 posted on 12/08/2012 11:31:56 AM PST by Stepan12
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To: kreitzer

Birther candidates? We already have two that I’m aware of: Rubio and Jindal.


22 posted on 12/08/2012 11:48:27 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: kreitzer
Until SCOTUS stops evading the NBC issue there is no definition of NBC sufficiently clear to get Barry removed. Therefore it doesn't make sense to run “birther” candidates. Also, there is no agreement among constitutionalists as to what NBC means, although there is plenty of bloviating by folks insisting on their own definition.

It is agreed by the general public that Barry would have to have at a minimum been born in the US to be eligible. I expect that most sane citizens would agree to removal of Barry if it could be proved that he knowingly lied about where he was born or claimed to be foreign born to fraudulently obtain educational benefits.

IMO, the most promising scenario that has a hope of unseating Barry is first, the indictment of those that forged his BC...followed by indicting those who put the forgers up to it...leading eventually back to Barry, of course. Proof that Barry's BC is forged is not proof that he was not born in the USA, but it would be a start!

This has been Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s approach. Don't overstate your evidence. He says he has evidence that the BC is forged, but cannot yet prove who did it. Sgt. Friday could not have put it better. Just the facts, Ma'am. One step at a time.

See:

“BREAKING! Sheriff Arpaio - FULL STEAM AHEAD with BHO Investigation; Surprises Coming”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2966793/posts?q=1&;page=51

23 posted on 12/08/2012 12:57:54 PM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Melinda in TN

“If the conservatives can’t win they can’t make changes.

If you have to win by moving to the left, then nothing was won.


24 posted on 12/08/2012 1:22:30 PM PST by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: GenXteacher

Well, then they will never win. It’s a long way from the far right to the loony left.


25 posted on 12/08/2012 3:02:39 PM PST by Melinda in TN
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To: Melinda in TN

Never is too strong a term. It might be awhile, granted. Long term, the right wins. Natural law cannot be broken forever. It will still have to be fought for, though.

“The principle for which we contend is bound to reassert itself, though it may be at another time and in another form.” - Jefferson Davis


26 posted on 12/08/2012 3:15:44 PM PST by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: kreitzer

Forget Tea Party and Birther candidates, we need socialist candidates. We put them in office, things get real bad and thus we demonstrate how bad socialism is. (sarcasm)


27 posted on 12/08/2012 4:48:02 PM PST by plain talk
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To: kreitzer

Rubio TeaParty???

NDAA. Libya. RINO Neocon.


28 posted on 12/08/2012 9:26:18 PM PST by Ray76
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To: kreitzer
The 2 attempts at birther conventions were both cancelled due to nonexistent ticket sales. Several organized, well publicized birther protests turned out dozens. Birther support, much like their “evidence”, is a myth. Without pimps like Farah and Corsi, it would have already died.
29 posted on 12/08/2012 10:21:07 PM PST by Tex-Con-Man (<-------currently working through post-election anger issues.)
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To: Tex-Con-Man
"Unlike my mum Ruth has all the documents needed to prove who Mark's father was." - Obama in Dreams From My Father

The WH PDF.

Both can not be true. One or the other is a lie.

Is this the evidence and myth you refer to?

30 posted on 12/09/2012 6:31:06 AM PST by Ray76
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To: kreitzer
Who's to say a few well placed Birther candidates couldn't have some success?

Reality says it would have any success. The birther movement is limited to a small corner of the Internet's lunatic fringe. Have you ever seen a birther rally that wasn't pathetically small? Remember the "Birther Summit" that failed miserably?

31 posted on 12/09/2012 11:10:48 AM PST by Kleon
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To: Melinda in TN

Sorry my interpretation is that Romney lost.

Actually.

Sure he has plenty of qualifications, but who actually likes him?

Romney lost because he made Obama seem reasonable. And Obama was already in-house.

Stop talking about Romney! He won’t run again (if he does he will be clobbered) so now we need a new candidate.

I propose Sarah Palin get off her standing on the sidelines, and really jump in this time.

How about it, Palin?


32 posted on 12/09/2012 11:17:10 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Kleon; Tex-Con-Man; RIghtwardHo; nagelbett; Longbow1969; x; KevinDavis

Ok, I understand I won’t change your minds. But something to ask yourself; How has being anti-birther advanced the conservative cause? You really think taking the msm’s approach to birthers helped us this election? You think we somehow did better than we would have otherwise? The GOP allowed for the Senate to vote on McCain’s eligibility and does’t even have the guts to ask if Obama was a citizen of Indonesia as a child, or how he paid for Harvard. Good luck with writing out checks to the “ask no question of our Lord Obama” GOP in 2014 and beyond. Hope Weeping Boehner works out well for ya’ll.


33 posted on 12/09/2012 1:31:17 PM PST by kreitzer
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To: kreitzer

I don’t like Boehner any more than you do, so let’s not go there. And being anti-birther hasn’t helped the ‘conservative cause’ any more than being pro-birther has. Heck, maybe the guy was born in another country. The point is that it doesn’t matter. Can you imagine any scenario where Democrats and the media collectively say, “Wow, we were really wrong about that guy! Maybe he shouldn’t be president after all”? Neither can I. And that’s why it doesn’t matter. I am fully convinced that if irrefutable evidence came out tomorrow that Obama was a non-American, that our media and Democrats would work hard to cover it up, label it a non-issue, and mock whoever mentioned it. And that’s why I’m saying it doesn’t matter. Obama won - twice - because a large chuck of the populace has become stuck on stupid and doped up on the euphoria of ‘free’ handouts. Our battle is not to oust Obama; if he weren’t in, some other lib would be. Our job needs to be to reclaim the soul of America.


34 posted on 12/09/2012 3:08:05 PM PST by nagelbett
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To: kreitzer
Ok, I understand I won’t change your minds. But something to ask yourself; How has being anti-birther advanced the conservative cause?

Being "anti-birther," as you call it, is nothing more than insisting that we conservatives adhere to our own conservative values of 1) understanding and sticking with reality instead of fantasy, 2) being truthful, and 3) respecting the Constitution and the law.

Not as we would like for it to be. But as it actually is.

Aside from that, we are fortunate that a larger percentage of conservatives are not birthers because if they were, it would give lots of ammo to the liberals and the media to (rightly) paint conservatives as uninformed, undiscerning, and (if I might say so) conspiracy-theorist nutjobs.

35 posted on 12/09/2012 10:17:28 PM PST by Jeff Winston
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To: kreitzer

I think it goes without saying that we don’t need that.


36 posted on 12/09/2012 10:18:46 PM PST by Jeff Winston
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To: Perdogg; kreitzer
"Right now, Mark Levin and Fred Thompson say that Marco Rubio is eligible."

Mark Levin and Fred Thompson also believe that the current Dauphin of France Prince Louis Duke of Burgundy is eligible to be our Commander in Chief.

Mark Levin and Fred Thompson are clearly clueless on this issue.

37 posted on 12/11/2012 10:27:12 AM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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Not to mention, Mark Levin and Fred Thompson ALSO believe the current King of Thailand, Bhumibol_Adulyadej, is eligible to be our Commander in Chief since he too, was born in the U.S.


38 posted on 12/11/2012 12:56:39 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: kreitzer

>Forget Tea Party Candidates, We Need Birther Candidates (Vanity)<

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We’re about a year late on this.

Isn’t it ironic that the the greatest nation in the history of minkind was brought down by a foreigner because Congress and SCOTUS did not have the courage to apply the Constitution that they had sworn to defend and uphold?


39 posted on 12/11/2012 4:01:36 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: kreitzer

>Forget Tea Party Candidates, We Need Birther Candidates (Vanity)<

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We’re about a year late on this.

Isn’t it ironic that the the greatest nation in the history of minkind was brought down by a foreigner because Congress and SCOTUS did not have the courage to apply the Constitution that they had sworn to defend and uphold?


40 posted on 12/11/2012 4:03:11 PM PST by 353FMG
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