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Strange Days: Print Two-One Trillion Dollar Coins to Solve Debt Ceiling Crisis?
Confounded Interest ^ | 12/09/2012 | Anthony B. Sanders

Posted on 12/09/2012 10:31:28 AM PST by whitedog57

The Washington Post had interesting article about solving the debt ceiling “crisis.” The author recommended that Treasury produce two-one trillion dollar platinum coins and deposit them at The Fed.

“I like it,” says Joseph Gagnon of the Peterson Institute for International Economics. “There’s nothing that’s obviously economically problematic about it.”

Actually, Mr. Gagnon, there are a few problems with it.

1. Moral hazard. The President orders trillion dollar coins to be produced, then gives one each to campaign donors and other party favorites (note that I did not mention our current President by name since this would be a temptation of any political party or President).

2. The Fed. Like it or not, The Fed has helped keep the inflation rate down near 2%. This is because our monetary system relies on banks to make loans to consumers and business get the money supply circulating through the financial system. Without money circulation, there is little inflation … and little economic growth.

Growth in bank-held loans and leases in positive (above the red line of 0% growth) but still below the historic levels (pink line). So, it is difficult to generate inflation when bank lending is below historic levels.

Of course, student loans have skyrocket along with auto loans. Mortgage loans are still trending downwards (although this is a combination of lower purchase mortgage originations and household defaults on their mortgages.

So producing trillion dollar coins and depositing them at The Federal Reserve Bank of New York (NOT the Board in DC!) is the same as Treasury printing an additional $2 trillion of money. And if anyone suggests producing those trillion dollar coins and giving them to households or friends of the Administration, please take a money and banking course at your nearest college or university.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: fed; inflation; obama; platinum; platinumcoins; usdebt
Washington Post is insane.
1 posted on 12/09/2012 10:31:41 AM PST by whitedog57
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To: whitedog57

These kind of games with the system just demonstrate how the ruling class doesn’t care about the rules, and doesn’t mind rubbing our noses in it. It’s akin to Caligula naming his horse as Consul.


2 posted on 12/09/2012 10:53:45 AM PST by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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To: whitedog57
It is my understanding that it is Congress that authorizes coinage, not Presidential proclamation.
3 posted on 12/09/2012 10:58:48 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: whitedog57

They are already printing 40 bil (B) a month ( almost 1/2 tril [T] annually)anyway, whats a few bil more?


4 posted on 12/09/2012 11:00:32 AM PST by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: whitedog57

This idea is madness.

It would lead to a collapse of the US dollar.

Stop Spending.

(and buy American)


5 posted on 12/09/2012 11:01:09 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Defiant

This suggestion is also akin to the monetary policy advice Dr. Faust and Satan gave the Holy Roman Emperor (and we know how that turned out).


6 posted on 12/09/2012 11:06:33 AM PST by faithhopecharity (--)
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To: whitedog57

“Take the name of a rare element ... Remove the letter ‘O’, change the 3rd letter to ‘U’ and then rearrange — you will get the name of another rare element. What are they? (Hint: Neither are gases)”


7 posted on 12/09/2012 11:15:27 AM PST by mikrofon (Hint 2: Iran really wants one.)
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To: whitedog57

Why don’t they just call ‘em “magic crystals,” it’d sit better with the hippies...


8 posted on 12/09/2012 11:15:36 AM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: whitedog57

They’re going to do that in effect anyway, may as well just do it and get it over with in a day. It’s just implementing QE3 in one step.


9 posted on 12/09/2012 11:15:48 AM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: mikrofon

DUH, that’s change the third letter to A...


10 posted on 12/09/2012 11:17:22 AM PST by mikrofon (Hint 2: Iran really wants one.)
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To: whitedog57
I think it's a great idea. This way we won't need a wheelbarrow to transport the money when we buy a loaf of bread.
11 posted on 12/09/2012 11:31:27 AM PST by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: whitedog57

The appropriate metal to use for those coins is Iron Pyrite.


12 posted on 12/09/2012 11:35:32 AM PST by MCF
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To: whitedog57

“Like it or not, The Fed has helped keep the inflation rate down near 2%.”
Somehow, I doubt the veracity of this statement.


13 posted on 12/09/2012 11:43:06 AM PST by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: whitedog57

Stupid. Better to print a single two-trillion dollar coin.


14 posted on 12/09/2012 11:55:38 AM PST by Smedley (It's a sad day for American capitalism when a man can't fly a midget on a kite over Central Park)
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To: GenXteacher

Well, the two percent number doesn’t include energy and food, but be reasonable. Who buys energy or food?


15 posted on 12/09/2012 11:57:56 AM PST by Smedley (It's a sad day for American capitalism when a man can't fly a midget on a kite over Central Park)
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To: whitedog57
The biggest thing I learned in the election is that the majority of the people do not want to make the sacrifices necessary to reduce government spending and repair our economy, and the Democrats will be happy to exploit that fact. Some sort of financial crisis is now inevitable. The timing of it will be when the interest of the debt cannot be paid by tax revenues. I think Obama can ride out his second term before that happens, but it is not infinitely far away either.

When that happens, congress will be backed into a corner. It can either impose a far more serious austerity program than we are currently considering with the fiscal cliff, or do something radical. I feel they will fear the mob and do something radical to appease the mob. What I think will happen is that they will demonize the Fed, and revoke the federal reserve act, and default on all debt to the Fed. Then congress will look to the treasury to print money directly, and that will start an inflationary cycle.

Yes, they could do something like print trillion dollar coins to give to the Fed, but it isn't like the Fed could take them to a bank and get change for them. Currency is a medium of exchange, and if there is no one to exchange a trillion dollar coin with, it is worthless.

16 posted on 12/09/2012 12:04:15 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: whitedog57

The article misses the most obvious problem with the scheme — coins are minted, not printed.


17 posted on 12/09/2012 12:23:52 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: whitedog57
This is a Simpsons episode.

s9 e20 the trouble with trillions

18 posted on 12/09/2012 12:33:30 PM PST by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: whitedog57

The same head in the a$$ liberals who voted for 0bama see nothing wrong with this.

The reason why it’s bad is diluting money = inflation.

But let’s just suppose that 2 is good. Then why not 3, or 33 or 5,000 or a trillion?

Madness. But then liberalism is an incurable breakdown of the thinking apparatus.


19 posted on 12/09/2012 1:44:55 PM PST by I want the USA back
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To: whitedog57

earlier on FR:
20 posted on 12/09/2012 1:49:35 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Keynesians.


21 posted on 12/09/2012 2:31:41 PM PST by Born to Conserve
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To: whitedog57
Eh? Its just money.

22 posted on 12/09/2012 2:37:12 PM PST by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: whitedog57

Wouldn’t that hereby mean that an OZ of Platinum is worth a $-Trillion?

Time to get stocking up! Gotta pile of catalytic converters for sale; any takers? USPS money orders only....


23 posted on 12/09/2012 3:42:43 PM PST by pingman (Step right up and place yer' bets!)
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To: whitedog57
Bill Still has been advocating this plan of attack for over a year using quarters.
24 posted on 12/09/2012 3:59:45 PM PST by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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