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The Only Thing Left for the Republican Party is its Obituary
Flopping Aces ^ | 12-10-12 | Michael Henkins

Posted on 12/10/2012 8:34:02 AM PST by Starman417

Despite its own insistence that it is very much alive, the Republican Party has now joined the crowd invisible. The sad pathetic truth of its demise is that those who once believed in it, and cared deeply for it, are no longer around to bury it with dignity. Its corpse has now become the dancing play thing of Washington D.C. consulting firms and lobbyist.

The most ironic fact of the Republican Party’s death is that it was not a showdown at high noon on Capitol Hill that killed it. Nor a rare exotic virus that provided the mortal blow. It was killed by something very common in society and usually not fatal in Washington D.C... It was done in by a severe allergic reaction to the truth.

There has always been one thing Conservatives, Libertarians, Tea Partyers, Constitutionalists, and Social Conservative could always agree on. We all agreed in one basic primary principle. The principle of less government and even less spending. That very basic principle was the glue that held all these factions together under the Republican Party tent. Recent events paired with a close look at the Republican Party’s actions over the course of fifteen years have now exposed that the Republican Party has been living a lie. They are not for less spending and smaller government. The foot of the Republican Party has always been just as heavy on the pedal to hurtle our great country off the financial cliff shooting out into space as the Democrat Party. The only difference is that elected Republicans have been pretending to be innocent kidnap victims of President Obama and Democrats, being forced into going along for the ride.

The current Republican Party Establishment is not the victim of the main stream media clouding their message of the benefits of spending cuts. On other issues that is surely the case, but not this one. The reason the Republican Party fails to articulate the primary virtue of less spending and small government effectively is because it does not believe in the words that are coming out of its mouth. It is a lie they are forced to say out of political necessity, not because of some deeply held belief.

The Republican Party’s primary concern for a while now has been to deliver tax payer money for lobbyists and consulting firms who represent the industries that fill the campaign war chest. Erick Erickson at RedState delved a little into the incest problem here. These consulting firms are the middle men. The paper bag carriers. The mules. The blood sucking mosquitos. They are the ones who make the promise and make sure the Republican candidate delivers. They are in fact the buffer between corporate Washington D.C. Insiders money and the Republican politician’s conscious that allows them to sleep at night thinking they are as clean and pure as a bowl full of freshly poured Clorox.

(excerpt) Read more at floppingaces.net...


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1 posted on 12/10/2012 8:34:08 AM PST by Starman417
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To: Starman417

I went from Republican -> Independent -> Tea Party. The Republican’s today are wussies. No backbone. I do not like wussies, they’re just sheep waiting for the wolves to devour them.


2 posted on 12/10/2012 8:39:58 AM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: Starman417

And it cannot happen soon enough. Let’s start a pool promising bonuses to whomever manages to bury Boehner and his RINO pieces of Obamastuff-excrent with them.

May the flies of a thousand camels come to rest in their beer.


3 posted on 12/10/2012 8:41:12 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: SkyDancer
The Republican’s today are wussies. No backbone.

They are also reprobates.

I know, a "social conservative" descriptor. But this has sunk the GOP as much as anything else.

4 posted on 12/10/2012 8:42:53 AM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Starman417
GOP ORIGAMI
5 posted on 12/10/2012 8:43:03 AM PST by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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To: Starman417
The Only Thing Left for the Republican Party is its Obituary

All it has to do is move drastically to the right and appeal to the tax slave. They stopped being concerned about the working tax payers years ago, so that's why no one bothers to vote anymore.

If they went back to the founding fathers and heeded their warnings, the republican party could come back with a vengeance.

The working class still has all the political power as well as the political funding. Court these people now before the freeloaders outnumber the workers, and the democrats will never win again. There's not much time left to save this country, so it's now or never. No more cowering in the corner.

6 posted on 12/10/2012 8:43:45 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Starman417

So why is this the case, after Bush won in 2004 and the same thing was said about the Democrat party?


7 posted on 12/10/2012 8:43:58 AM PST by bigbob
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To: Starman417

The Republican Party won’t go away, I mean what would the Harlem Globetrotters be without the Washington Generals?


8 posted on 12/10/2012 8:44:32 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: SkyDancer

SAME here SkyDancer. Same here.


9 posted on 12/10/2012 8:49:37 AM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: RIghtwardHo

I think it was the Whig party that became the Republican party. They were pretty cool back in the early 1800’s. But now all I can do is scream at the TV whenever a Republican comes on and gives a statement of some sort. McCain was okay as a Navy pilot but politically he’s a mensch, a nothing. And he’s atypical of what the Republicans are today. Just mush. G-d it makes me so mad. (sorry for the vent).


10 posted on 12/10/2012 8:57:08 AM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: bigbob
So why is this the case, after Bush won in 2004 and the same thing was said about the Democrat party?

2 reasons, imo:

1. The democrats had and still have the benefit of owning the MSM. As long as they own the media, they will never die. Like it or not, voters listen and respond to the narrative constructed by the media.

2. We have probably crossed the threshold of those that are dependent upon government or those that are receiving checks from the government. I'm not sure the GOP can continue to stand on principles of less government (and less checks) and win over a majority of the electorate.

I certainly think it's possible for the GOP to be resurrected. But only after a national collapse or at least a victory in a major offensive against the media.
11 posted on 12/10/2012 9:00:16 AM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: Starman417

I do not care if an obit is even written about this party honestly.

Bury it in an unmarked grave.

Drag its rotting carcass out to sea and let the white sharks gorge themselves on it.

Outside of Ronald reagan, there really has not been any republican of consequence at all.

People are now saying that political transvestite Charlie Crist is going to come back to Fl. and run against Rick Scott for governor. My initial reaction of course is hell no, I do not want this worm Crist as my governor again.

But then I think, what has Scott accomplished in his term as governor?

1. He appointed Angela Corey to persecute George Zimmerman.

2. He lifted not a finger to help Allen West.

He’s worthless, much like every other elected repubic.


12 posted on 12/10/2012 9:02:51 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Starman417

America - born 4July1776 - died 6Nov2012.


13 posted on 12/10/2012 9:05:02 AM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: SkyDancer

Sure you meant “mensch” and not “nebbish”?


14 posted on 12/10/2012 9:05:13 AM PST by dorothy ( "When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: mmichaels1970
I certainly think it's possible for the GOP to be resurrected. But only after a national collapse or at least a victory in a major offensive against the media.

Historically, a dictatorship follows a national collapse. After the economy collapses and the EBT cards start flashing "ERROR" or the money is inflated to worthlessness, the urban feral youths and inner city tribal parasites will invade the white suburbs to rape, murder and pillage. The frightened sheeple will beg 0bama to save them and he will respond by declaring martial law, suspending the Constitution and appointing himself El Presidente-for-Life.

15 posted on 12/10/2012 9:13:04 AM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: concerned about politics

>>The working class still has all the political power as well as the political funding. Court these people now before the freeloaders outnumber the workers, and the democrats will never win again.>>

DITTO!


16 posted on 12/10/2012 9:17:43 AM PST by kitkat
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To: concerned about politics
If they went back to the founding fathers and heeded their warnings, the republican party could come back with a vengeance.

I used to think so, but Romney has caused a lot of scales to fall off my eyes. As long as a guy like Romney is "good enough" for the Republican party, then the Republican party is a waste of time for conservatives. It is shocking and heartbreaking to see how many self-described "conservatives" here on FR continue to think Romney was an acceptable candidate, and completely fail to discern the difference between compromise and capitulation.

Voting for Newt, Cain, Santorum, or Perry as the Republican party "top guy" would have required compromise on the part of voters like me. Voting for Romney, one realizes upon actually reviewing his established record in office (not what he said he'd do, but what he's DONE), would have required complete capitulation. In EVERY SINGLE WAY (as opposed to a few select ways, such as the other candidates), Romney was a functional liberal Democrat. No matter what he promised on the campaign trail, no matter how good he got to sounding, the fact remains that his ACTIONS have always revealed a big government liberal statist Democrat. Actions speak more honestly than campaign promises; many desperate Republicans were eager and happy to forget that simple truth.

Voting "against" Obama meant voting for a big government liberal democrat registered as a Republican.

Will "we" or will the official GOP hierarchy, demand that Romney resign? Will they follow suit and demand that other big-government "Republicans" resign? Are "we" serious enough and united enough to do that?

If not, then kiss the Republican party goodbye as the political option for Americans who want less government and less spending. As long as guys like Romney pass muster, then there is absolutely ZERO point in being a Republican.

17 posted on 12/10/2012 9:19:14 AM PST by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: SkyDancer

I printed the article and placed it in the envelope returning it with my 2013 Republican Sustaining Membership statement. No more money. This part of the audience won’t pay.

And I didn’t use my own first class stamp to save money for the bloodsuckers.


18 posted on 12/10/2012 9:21:19 AM PST by satan (Plumbing new depths of worthlessness on a daily basis.)
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To: SVTCobra03
Historically, a dictatorship follows a national collapse...

I agree. It would be a very long crappy road to travel.
19 posted on 12/10/2012 9:22:31 AM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: dorothy

Right - nebbish - was thinking of something else when I posted. Then too it was early in the morning and didn’t have my coffee yet.


20 posted on 12/10/2012 9:33:44 AM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: mmichaels1970

I think your quite correct, but I’d add that it may actually be best if the GOP goes away. Its a severely damaged brand as a result of the relentless labeling as racist by the MSM Propaganda outlets. The demographic shift in the U.S. mitigate against it ever recovering to the extent it could play a significant role in national politics. And, actually, as the culture/country further atomizes into special interest groups the idea of “National” parties may be going the way of the dinosaur. The whole idea of the “Big Tent” party may be over. If you take Anglo-White Conservatives out of the U.S. political equation, what’s left? A hodge podge of special interest groups competing to get to the trough; they’ll fall out soon enough and further fracture the political scene.


21 posted on 12/10/2012 9:43:16 AM PST by Rich21IE
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To: mmichaels1970

Amnesty for illegal immigrants will succeed in creating millions of new pro-leftist voters who will succeed in suppressing the total pro-conservative vote, for many decades to come.


22 posted on 12/10/2012 9:51:34 AM PST by johnthebaptistmoore (The world continues to be stuck in a "all leftist, all of the time" funk. BUNK THE FUNK!)
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To: mmichaels1970

“I certainly think it’s possible for the GOP to be resurrected. But only after a national collapse or at least a victory in a major offensive against the media. “

Even as I was hoping for a Romney victory, I was telling my conservative friends that should he get elected Mitt Romney would be the last Republican president of my lifetime. Demographics are a b*tch!


23 posted on 12/10/2012 9:52:04 AM PST by Tallguy (Hunkered down in Pennsylvania.)
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To: bigbob
So why is this the case, after Bush won in 2004 and the same thing was said about the Democrat party?

After the Bush win in 2004, the Democrats did not go into a funk and form a circular firing squad. They united and fought back. The Republican Party is not dead, it is just severely divided and demoralized. At this point, it is more satisfying to make excused and find scapegoats than to accept the reality that we lost an election we could have won.

At some point the two major factions in the Republican Party will accept the reality that neither can win without the other and they will unite against the common opponent.

24 posted on 12/10/2012 10:00:59 AM PST by etcb
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To: etcb

to make excuses - Sorry for the typo.


25 posted on 12/10/2012 10:04:43 AM PST by etcb
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To: Starman417

It’ll be a long road to restore my faith in the electoral process, period.

A party that knows the Webster’s dictionary definition of the word “treason”, and can state it publicly, would be a step in the right direction.


26 posted on 12/10/2012 10:19:14 AM PST by fattigermaster
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To: Starman417
I'm pretty sure this isn't necessary.

They're included in the DEATH OF AMERICA!

Which was preceded by the death of the Constitution.

27 posted on 12/10/2012 10:23:45 AM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: Starman417

We can think, work and fight our way out of this mess.

“Understand yourself and understand your opponents, and in one hundred battles, you will not be defeated.”

Why is Rinse and Wash or whatever his name is, still around? He didn’t understand the Republicans or the Democrats. Has he shown any inclination to learn? Every team loses once in awhile, but failing to learn from the loss is stupid.


28 posted on 12/10/2012 10:30:05 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Starman417
It would be nice to think that throwing out the moderates or forming a new party would end all of this, but it won't.

Politics is growing more ideological and more lobbyist-dominated at the same time and at the same pace.

The two trends have gone hand in hand in recent years. Why that is, I don't know.

29 posted on 12/10/2012 10:31:32 AM PST by x
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To: Starman417

Now the election is over and the Repubs once again got their collective a$$ handed to them, it really is indeed time to build up and promote a conservative third party. The White House won`t ever be in GOP hands againnanyway, so the risks to standing up a new party aren`t nearly as pronounced as in years past.

The GOP is dead as a nationally competitive alternative to the democrat party.


30 posted on 12/10/2012 10:32:19 AM PST by ScottinVA (I've never been more disgusted with American voters.)
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To: Starman417; All

Let the Republican Party die.

As I’ve ranted elsewhere, the main reason that patriots are presently losing ground to socialists is the following imo. As much as patriots complain that Obama and RINO-controlled Congress are ignoring the Constitution, there are evidently many patriots who don’t know the Constitution either, particularly the Founding States division of federal and state government powers evidenced by the Constituton’s Section 8 of Article I, Article V and the 10th Amendment.

And when neither patriots or the feds know the Constitution then the corrupt feds are going to succeed in pushing constitutionally indefensible public policy regardless of the Republican Party.


31 posted on 12/10/2012 10:38:22 AM PST by Amendment10
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To: Finny
If not, then kiss the Republican party goodbye as the political option for Americans who want less government and less spending. As long as guys like Romney pass muster, then there is absolutely ZERO point in being a Republican.


32 posted on 12/10/2012 10:45:50 AM PST by COBOL2Java (GOPe: Already prepping for their 2016 loss - Jeb Bush!)
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To: All






Can't you just imagine the above was the scene with Obama and his Commie staff after stealing the election through voter fraud- while Conservatives blame Romney, argue, point fingers, blather on about who to run in four years, 'starting a new party', and try to figure out how to suck up to minorities the 'next time'?

Next time? What makes you think the massive voter fraud in this last farce of an election won't be repeated? If we don't clean up our voting system, there may not be a next time. We may not see another Republican president in our lifetime


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Map from Barack Obama Voter Fraud 2012


What most refuse to acknowledge is that it was unlikely that ANYBODY could have beaten the voter fraud planned and perpetrated by the Obama machine. They seem to prefer pointing fingers, blaming Romney and blathering on about who to run in 2016 and how to suck up to the minorities.

>Polls indicated that Romney was going to win the election.

>The economy is close to Great Depression era conditions, and unemployment is almost as high as when Obama entered office.

>Economic conditions became so dire after Obama took office it prompted the rise of an entire new movement, the Tea Party.

>Presidents rarely win reelection when the economy is in the tank.

>Mitt knew it too, when he was met by several thousand in that parking garage cheering him when he arrived unannounced at that airport, and he put his hand over his heart and said, 'This is how you know you've won'.

So how did Romney lose a race that numerous reputable polls and pundits predicted would be an easy win, based on historical patterns?

Massive voter fraud.

That and no other reason

Almost every major Conservative website has put out an article charging voter fraud- Breitbart, American Thinker, Atlas Shrugs, WND, The Blaze, Front Page Magazine, Fox News, The Daily Caller, Town Hall, Human Events, Canada Free Press...


We can not wait for 2014 and 2016 to regroup and figure out new strategies. By then it will be too late. The Marxist/Muslim usurper will have completed his planned distruction of America. That's what people fail to understand.

We must act NOW.

Start with the election. If we let the Rats get away with this massive voter fraud, we're no better than a bananna republic.

We must keep digging and pounding him every day, in every way we can- phony birth certificate, Benghazi, Fast and Furious, his hidden life, records....




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Col Allen West; "I don't want to see America become like Zimbabwe where people don’t trust their electoral process. If we cannot trust the integrity of the voting system then we are no longer a free republic".

Col West has opened the door.

We must fight election fraud.

It falls on ‘We the People’.

Silence is consent

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The website,'Barack Obama Vote Fraud 2012' is keeping a running account of cases of voter fraud and what to do about it:

Visit the site- Here

(Astonishing!)




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Believe it or not, there ARE patriots out there who are going to FIGHT Obama's reelection- unlike the spineless Republicans who remain silent!

Visit the website; 'The Competent Conservative'

Here

'These elections are NOT certified yet. The only way to get this investigated, much less recounted or overturned, is through the Secretary of State of each of the five key states: Florida, Virginia, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. EVEN IF YOU ARE IN ANOTHER STATE you can help. But it won’t do any good to dilute our effort to challenge California or Michigan or other states. Until a major group gets involved to do more, here is the plan: Contact the Secretary of State of the state in question. See contact information below... '





Visit the website, 'Halt Voter Fraud':

Here

'This election is not over - YET. Obama has not been elected by the Electoral College - YET. The Presidential election is being stolen from us with "Chicago Style" thuggery - and we can STOP the thieves in their tracks. But we do not have time on our side. This is our LAST chance. Don't give up. We must act now.

If massive voter fraud has occured as alleged by so many, and if the state vote counts include these FRAUDULENT votes, then is it logical to say that the entire state vote is COMPROMISED and can't be trusted? 59,000,000 Americans might agree!

The state vote is used to determine the allocation of Electors in the Electoral College which actually elects the President and Vice President.

If the vote count is FRAUDULENT, FLAWED, and CAN'T BE TRUSTED - and if the Electors have been FRAUDULENTLY allocated based on FLAWED vote counts - then WE CANNOT ALLOW THE GOVERNORS TO SIGN THEIR CERTIFICATES of ASCERTAINMENT on December 17th. We can stop this if we ACT IMMEDIATELY.

***** CALL TO ARMS ***** FIVE STATE CAPITOLS ***** SEVEN DAYS *******

Patriots must rally NOW in the State Capitols of Harrisburg,PA - Richmond, VA - Tallahassee, FL - Columbus, OH, and Madison, WI ****** MASSIVE RALLIES ** *** PATRIOT LEADERS ORGANIZE YOUR LOCAL EFFORTS NOW, coordinate with the other PATRIOT groups as they also rally, let us know who you are and how you will respond, how we can help.

Remember the Battle of Trenton?

We can make HISTORY TODAY.'

More- Here

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Obama Voter Fraud on FaceBook- Here

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Sign this petition- almost 117,000 and counting -cards, email- Here

Sign the ‘We The People’ petition. It has 60,000 signatures and counting- Here

Click and sign the petition for a recount Here-

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CANADA FREE PRESS: Here

WND List of voter fraud reports Here
ATLAS SHRUGS voter fraud list. Here


Republican pole watchers; busloads of Somalians brought in Here
Another poll watcher observes voter fraud Here

Hannity and Col Allan West slam voter fraud Nov 12- Here

Photo of SOMALIANS brought to Ohio voting stations by the busload, 95% of whom did not speak English, and told to vote for Obama, straight Dem ticket- Here

'Human Events', report pollwatcher eyewitness to busload of Somalians at Ohio poll, spoke no English, told to vote Obama Here

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Must watch videos!

VIDEO-- Programmer Testifies About Rigging Elections With Vote Counting- Here

VIDEO- Illegal Aliens Caught Voting and Stealing Elections In Florida In Vast Numbers- Here

VIDEO- MICHAEL SAVAGE: How Obama fixed the 2012 election- Here

VIDEO- Massive voter fraud discovered in April- Here

VIDEO- Whistle blower speaks out about voter fraud- Here



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Voter fraud from Tea Party: Here

The American Dream- 22 Signs That Voter Fraud Is Wildly Out Of Control And The Election Was A Sham: Here

Town Hall : Obama Likely Won The Election Through Voter Fraud: Here

American Thinker: Was The Election Stolen:? Here

WSVN-TV Almost 1K Ballots Found In Broward Elections Warehouse: Here

Pundit Press; In Florida Obama Got Over 99% In Broward County Precincts: Here

Natural News.com: 19,605 to Zero IS Statistical Proof Of Outright Vote Fraud in 2012 Presidential Election: Here

Realville, USA: The Great Election Robbery of 2012? Here

WND: Here's How Touchscreens Killed Romney Votes: Here

The American Dream: Election Fraud? Obama Won More Than 99% Of The Vote in More Than 100 Ohio Precincrs: Here

WND: The Big List Of Voter Fraud Reports: Here

Nachum's List of Voter Fraud: Here

MORE:

Newt Gingrich 360: Here

Appalachian Forums: Here

Before It's News: Here

WND: Here

Political Outcast: Here

True The Vote: Here

Fox News Insider: Here

Human Events; Here

The Will County News: Here

Fox News: Here

WND: Here

Townhall: Here

Breitbart Here

Accuracy In Media The Left's national voter fraud strategy exposed: Here

Thousands of military votes uncounted or missing: Here

Human Events: Here

Front Page Magazine: Here

The Blaze Here

The Daily Caller: Here

Front Page Magazine Here

Military Voter Protection Project: Here

BreitBart Here

Townhall: Here

Fox News Here

The Blaze Here






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The best Obama Exposure site on the net, The Obama File: Here

The United StatesLibrary of Congress has selected TheObamaFile.com for inclusion in its historic collection of Internet materials Here





33 posted on 12/10/2012 11:02:58 AM PST by patriot08 (NATIVE TEXAN)
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To: Starman417

The party provides structure—it can and should be reformed by those of us within. The alternative is Obamugabe’s Fascist Party.


34 posted on 12/10/2012 11:04:04 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: Starman417

The party provides structure—it can and should be reformed by those of us within. The alternative is Obamugabe’s Fascist Party.


35 posted on 12/10/2012 11:05:03 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: dfwgator
The Republican Party won’t go away, I mean what would the Harlem Globetrotters be without the Washington Generals?

I like that analogy.

36 posted on 12/10/2012 11:12:23 AM PST by Digger
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To: Starman417

This extreme hand-wringing and despondency as WAY out of hand. We won big in 2010. We can win big in 2014. We won in Wisconsin on every election for over a year. We control more state governments that ever — gaining important ground in North Carolina and Arkansas. We’re about to get Michigan to bo “right to work” — an incredible advance. We are defeating unions on the state level in places across the land. A lot of the reason we lost was having a weak candidate with a flawed campaign. You can’t win an election if you can’t articulate your view.


37 posted on 12/10/2012 11:16:29 AM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: Tallguy
Even as I was hoping for a Romney victory, I was telling my conservative friends that should he get elected Mitt Romney would be the last Republican president of my lifetime. Demographics are a b*tch!

Agree. I'll never live long enough for that to happen. I will also agree with Newt that whoever the socialists/commies via the elites put up for prez in 2016 will be the winner & I'll say The Hildabeast. Ergo, get on with your life & forget this phoney, fraudulent electoral process. Don't let it occupy space in your mind.

38 posted on 12/10/2012 11:21:50 AM PST by Digger
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To: patriot08

That’s a great resource compilation. Thanks.


39 posted on 12/10/2012 11:22:46 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: Starman417

I don’t think it’s dead. There’s just a lot of dead-wood that needs to be cleared away as soon as possible, starting with Boehner and continuing on to anyone who had anything to do with promoting the candidacy of Romney. They’re all proven failures, so just get rid of them.

Next, start with the core of Republicans in the House and Senate who voted “No” on the bailout in 2008. Those are the people who can be relied upon to stick to their principles through thick and thin. Add to that everyone who got elected with Tea Party support in 2010 and 2012. They’re not proven in the same way yet, but that’s OK. Everyone else in the GOP needs to be sit on the back bench for a while, until the brand is rebuilt.


40 posted on 12/10/2012 11:26:30 AM PST by Behind the Blue Wall
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To: Lazamataz

Thank you, Laz.


41 posted on 12/10/2012 12:03:06 PM PST by patriot08 (NATIVE TEXAN (girl type))
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To: etcb
After the Bush win in 2004, the Democrats did not go into a funk and form a circular firing squad. They united and fought back. The Republican Party is not dead, it is just severely divided and demoralized. At this point, it is more satisfying to make excused and find scapegoats than to accept the reality that we lost an election we could have won.

Did you read the article? This isn't just pointing at the other guy and saying, "It's your fault." This article and the article referenced above from Erickson at Redstate both demonstrate a level of corruption from the RINO consultants that is treasonous. It's the very definition of Lenin's quote, "The Capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them."

At some point the two major factions in the Republican Party will accept the reality that neither can win without the other and they will unite against the common opponent.

The common enemy of both parties is constitutional conservatives.

TS

42 posted on 12/10/2012 12:57:33 PM PST by The Shrew (www.wintersoldier.com; www.tstrs.com; The Truth Shall Set You Free!)
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To: SkyDancer

“I think it was the Whig party that became the Republican party.”

No. The Republican party is not an extension of the Whig party.

The Republican party was formed by a coalition of Democrats and Whigs. And, despite what other may say, the primary driver was opposition to slavery.

The Democrats were pro-slavery. The Whigs a “we don’t like it, but there’s nothing we can do about it, so we’re not going to try” attitude.

The Republican Party was formed to “abolish slavery and restrict the role of government in economic and social life.” That quoted line was the agreed upon purpose of the founders of the Republican party.

The Republican party was a 3rd party. Eventually the Whig party disappeared, because people left it for either the Democrat or Republican party.


43 posted on 12/10/2012 2:20:29 PM PST by Brookhaven (theconservativehand.com - alt2p.com)
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To: etcb
At some point the two major factions in the Republican Party will accept the reality that neither can win without the other and they will unite against the common opponent.

It has long been my contention that the GOP establishment would rather lose with a moderate than win with a conservative. I haven't seen anything to change my mind.

The Republicans spent 40 years out of power. Somewhere along the line a mindset set in that "we can work with this." They learned to work the system, while being out of power. Being in control became less important that having access to power.

44 posted on 12/10/2012 2:28:40 PM PST by Brookhaven (theconservativehand.com - alt2p.com)
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To: ScottinVA

I read Newt’s assessment that the GOP wouldn’t stand a chance against Hillary in 2016 and thought “well, if we don’t stand a chance, maybe we should use this as a transition period to a new party.”


45 posted on 12/10/2012 2:31:38 PM PST by Brookhaven (theconservativehand.com - alt2p.com)
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To: Brookhaven

Somehow I kind of remember that the Republican party was formed out of some of the Whig people. But then, my adage is: “You’ll always meet someone smarter than you and learn from it”


46 posted on 12/10/2012 2:36:40 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: SVTCobra03
America - born 4July1776 - died 6Nov2012.

On Election Night, once it was locked for Obama, I went out and pulled my American flag down. It's now folded up in a plastic box in the laundry room. Proudly flying in place of it is the Irish tricolor.

47 posted on 12/10/2012 2:50:09 PM PST by ScottinVA (I've never been more disgusted with American voters.)
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To: Brookhaven
I read Newt’s assessment that the GOP wouldn’t stand a chance against Hillary in 2016

For the rest of America's days, future presidents will be decided in the democrat primary. Republicans are relegated to regional politics. Americans have shown for the past two national elections they don't want Republicans in the White House, unless by special invitation.

48 posted on 12/10/2012 2:54:31 PM PST by ScottinVA (I've never been more disgusted with American voters.)
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To: Brookhaven; SkyDancer
The Republican party was a 3rd party. Eventually the Whig party disappeared,

I don't think the republicans were ever a third party, when they formed in 1854, the Whigs were only 22 years old.

The republicans simply replaced the Whigs, two years after they first met in 1854, John Fremont came in second in the 1856 presidential race, the “know Nothings” “third party” came in a distant third with 8 electoral votes. The Whigs were pre civil war America, the party only lasted 22 years itself (1833 to 1856). The Republicans held their first convention on July 6, 1854 and four months later held 19% of the Congress and 25% of the Senate, six years later they held the majority in the Congress, the majority in the Senate, and they had the Presidency. The Republicans were never really a third party at all.

49 posted on 12/10/2012 3:37:33 PM PST by ansel12 (A.Coulter2005(truncated)Romney will never recover from his Court's create of a right to gay marriage)
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To: x
Politics is growing more ideological and more lobbyist-dominated at the same time and at the same pace.

The two trends have gone hand in hand in recent years. Why that is, I don't know.

People who are more ideological have easier-to-press hot buttons. Among other metiers, lobbyists are good button-pushers.

But so are professional politicians. If a lobbyist relied on button-pushing when lobbying politicians, he'd just be scoffed at and no elected politician would take him seriously.

50 posted on 12/11/2012 12:47:42 AM PST by danielmryan
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