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Government Destroys Buckyballs, Assaults the Mind
The Objective Standard ^ | 12/14/12 | Ari Armstrong

Posted on 12/14/2012 9:19:49 AM PST by GSWarrior

It felt like Christmas had come early when I got my package of Buckyballs in the mail a few days ago. Buckyballs are small, super-strong spherical magnets made of the rare-earth metal Neodymium. A set of 216 Buckyballs fits comfortably in the palm of your hand.

Obviously Buckyballs are adult toys, and Maxfield and Oberton emphatically warns users not to give them to children, eat them, inhale them, or place them near objects (such as pacemakers) that are sensitive to magnets. However, for those who use Buckyballs with common sense and due care, they are reasonably safe—just like countless other objects in or around the home from hammers to knives to sugar to prescription drugs to firearms to bicycles to automobiles.

What has been the government’s response to Buckyballs? Has it been to recognize the outstanding productive achievements of the company that makes them? To leave the company in peace to conduct its business? Of course not. The government has put Maxfield and Oberton out of business so far as Buckyballs are concerned. The sets I ordered are among the last that will be produced, ever.

The unanswered question is, who will protect Americans from the risks posed to our lives, liberties, and happiness by rights-violating government regulators?

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: buckyballs; cpsc; regulation
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1 posted on 12/14/2012 9:19:59 AM PST by GSWarrior
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To: GSWarrior

Oh, good grief. We’ve apparently arrived at the point in nanny-statism where we ban any product that some little tykes might be tempted to stick in their mouths - in other words, just about everything. If your kid swallows a bunch of rare-earth magnets, the fault lies with you as a parent or maybe with your kid if he/she is old enough to know better - blaming and banning the inanimate object is the inevitable reaction of the government.


2 posted on 12/14/2012 9:28:46 AM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: GSWarrior

My local Hallmark had them on sale for $10 because of this stupid government meddling. They are usually around $30. I bought five sets. I love playing with them and gave them to my kids.


3 posted on 12/14/2012 9:32:24 AM PST by manic4organic (It was nice knowing you, America.)
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To: manic4organic
I love playing with them and gave them to my kids.

That makes you a bad parent. I'm telling the First Lady.

; )

4 posted on 12/14/2012 9:37:52 AM PST by GSWarrior (Click HERE to read entire tagline.)
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To: GSWarrior

Can you imagine what would have happened 110 years ago if an overprotective US government had found out that the new invented automobile would cause maybe 50,000 deaths and injuries a year?

We would still be using horses and trains to get around.


5 posted on 12/14/2012 9:38:53 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (SAVE THE SUMATRAN RAT MONKEY!)
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To: GSWarrior

I’m not sure the enough of today’s Americans are capable of handling Buckyballs responsibly.

It’s sad to see adults get caught up in these restrictions. But too many Americans are irresponsible children in adult bodies, so such restrictions are necessary - both to protect them from themselves and to protect us from them as well.

Don’t get mad at the government. Get mad at the irresponsible child who’s ruining things for the rest of us.


6 posted on 12/14/2012 9:49:03 AM PST by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: GSWarrior

Meh.

The government banned a commonly-occurring weed that has killed exactly nobody in 25,000 years and some people on Free Republic can’t cheer them on enough. Maybe we have the nanny state we deserve.


7 posted on 12/14/2012 9:52:34 AM PST by Mr. Know It All
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Can you imagine what would have happened 110 years ago if an overprotective US government had found out that the new invented automobile would cause maybe 50,000 deaths and injuries a year?

Cars? What about motorcycles, which by their very design cannot accept the myriad safety "features" mandated.

Ever wonder what happened to TRUE bench seats? Why backseats now have THREE headrests? The disappearance of full-sized station wagons with rumble seats? The truly large families I know have to shell out for 12 and 16 passenger vans because there aren't enough belts to go around. When I was a kid, 7 (2 grown-ups and five kids) of us were crammed in a beltless '61 Dodge Lancer. The child seat HOOKED OVER the front bench seat, mainly to keep me from bthering the driver. I did get to use the integrated steering wheel however. Fortunately, my folks were careful drivers.
8 posted on 12/14/2012 9:56:25 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: GSWarrior

Well, they are 19 and 22 y.o., so I doubt they’ll swallow them or anything!


9 posted on 12/14/2012 10:00:19 AM PST by manic4organic (It was nice knowing you, America.)
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To: GSWarrior
Where was the Government when my Brother bashed me in the head with an Etch-a-sketch?


10 posted on 12/14/2012 10:01:35 AM PST by jaz.357 (Welcome to hell. Here's your accordion.)
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To: GSWarrior

Ban paper, it causes cuts


11 posted on 12/14/2012 10:15:19 AM PST by tophat9000 (American is Barack Oaken)
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To: GSWarrior

Got mine ordered!

Gonna be great Christmas gifts!


12 posted on 12/14/2012 10:19:28 AM PST by petro45acp ( Merry Christmas !! Adeste Fidele!)
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To: Mr. Know It All

“The government banned a commonly-occurring weed that has killed exactly nobody in 25,000 years...”

People die every day while under the influence of that commonly-occurring weed - they wreck their cars, fall off stuff, make bad decisions around machinery, etc.

If you don’t believe me, go hang out at a trauma center sometime.


13 posted on 12/14/2012 10:19:28 AM PST by Owl558 ("Those who remember George Satayana are doomed to repeat him")
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To: Owl558
The government banned a commonly-occurring weed that has killed exactly nobody in 25,000 years...

People die every day while under the influence of that commonly-occurring weed - they wreck their cars, fall off stuff, make bad decisions around machinery, etc.

Ditto for alcohol - should government ban it?

14 posted on 12/14/2012 10:28:19 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("mouth piece from the pit of hell" (Bellflower, 11/10/2012))
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To: Owl558
People die every day while under the influence of that commonly-occurring weed - they wreck their cars, fall off stuff, make bad decisions around machinery, etc.

You can make the same point about alcohol times a zillion. I guess we should ban that, too.

15 posted on 12/14/2012 10:31:11 AM PST by Mr. Know It All
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To: GSWarrior
This isn't Nanny-statism.

This is rancher-and-his-cattleism.

We are now nothing more than livestock owned by the feral government.

This means we have no right to anything, starting with private property, which is what Agenda 21 is all about.

16 posted on 12/14/2012 10:41:20 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the state." - Cornelius Tacitus, Roman Senator)
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To: Dr. Sivana

When I was a toddler, my parents made plenty of long-distance drives to my grandparents’ house with me in a playpen in the back seat of their ‘64 Comet 2-door. Plus there were many trips after I got a bit older (and after my sister was born) where us kids rode in the back of a station wagon with the rear seats folded flat.

Oh, the horror! I never should have lived this long. :)


17 posted on 12/14/2012 10:44:22 AM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (Some cultures are destined to remain stupid and we need to quit trying to uplift them.)
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To: ZirconEncrustedTweezers

That reminds me of our old VW bug. All of us kids would fight to sit in the “hole”, the space behind the back seat. Great fun!


18 posted on 12/14/2012 10:56:40 AM PST by kdot
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To: JustSayNoToNannies
Ditto for alcohol - should government ban it?

They did; the results are an object lesson.

19 posted on 12/14/2012 11:04:20 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: JimRed
You and I know that - but does the Reefer Madness crowd know that?
20 posted on 12/14/2012 11:21:19 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("mouth piece from the pit of hell" (Bellflower, 11/10/2012))
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To: Mr. Know It All; JustSayNoToNannies

Way to change the subject. I believe that is called a red herring.

If you noticed, I offered no opinion one way or another about legalizing or not legalizing. I simply corrected your false statement; people do die every day while under the influence of that commonly-occurring weed, period.


21 posted on 12/14/2012 11:22:28 AM PST by Owl558 ("Those who remember George Satayana are doomed to repeat him")
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To: Owl558; Mr. Know It All
The government banned a commonly-occurring weed that has killed exactly nobody in 25,000 years...

People die every day while under the influence of that commonly-occurring weed - they wreck their cars, fall off stuff, make bad decisions around machinery, etc.

Ditto for alcohol - should government ban it?

Way to change the subject.

It was the subject of the text you replied to: "The government banned ...".

If you noticed, I offered no opinion one way or another about legalizing or not legalizing. I simply corrected your false statement;

Not my statement.

people do die every day while under the influence of that commonly-occurring weed, period.

Nobody ever died from the proximate cause of using marijuana - but many have died from the proximate cause of using alcohol.

22 posted on 12/14/2012 11:32:21 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("mouth piece from the pit of hell" (Bellflower, 11/10/2012))
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To: jaz.357

I had a bb gun, a bow and arrow, and lawn darts when I was a kid. I still have both eyes and fewer body piercings than the average barrista.


23 posted on 12/14/2012 11:54:31 AM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: Owl558
I simply corrected your false statement

No, you moved the goalposts. Marijuana itself kills nobody. What people do when they're impaired is another subject. Thus, when I bring up something else that impairs people, I didn't change the subject, you did.

Returning to the original topic, the injuries caused by this toy require somebody to do something irresponsible and contrary to copious warnings. Because of this stupidity, someone is trying to regulate the original product. It's the same thing for other things that can be used irresponsibly. Where do we draw the line?

24 posted on 12/14/2012 12:11:52 PM PST by Mr. Know It All
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To: Mr. Know It All
just protecting ourselves against the high probability that you will develop schizophrenia as a consequence of misuse in your teens.

We do have that right ~

25 posted on 12/14/2012 12:22:00 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah; Mr. Know It All
just protecting ourselves against the high probability that you will develop schizophrenia as a consequence of misuse in your teens

A law against transferring pot to teens would suffice for that purpose.

26 posted on 12/14/2012 12:25:00 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("mouth piece from the pit of hell" (Bellflower, 11/10/2012))
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To: Mr. Know It All

Pot has killed plenty of people in 25000 years, don’t kid yourself. Perhaps you meant to say that no one ever overdosed on it.


27 posted on 12/14/2012 12:41:19 PM PST by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: LearsFool

I must have missed the sarcasm tag.


28 posted on 12/14/2012 12:42:17 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: Owl558

People die under the influence of perfectly legal products too. They also die under the influence of nothing. What can we do about that?


29 posted on 12/14/2012 12:44:34 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

When I was a kid, I used to wonder at the stupidity of kids who would mistake a bottle of pills for candy.

I did know a kid who might have been stupid enough to eat a bottle of pills for fun. Far as I know, he never ate a bottle of pills, but he did do so many other stupid things as he grew older that he eventually ended up in jail.


30 posted on 12/14/2012 12:46:49 PM PST by Age of Reason
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To: Mr. Know It All

I’m with you against prohibition, but would somebody explain to me why calling it a weed, plant, flower, or whatever is supposed to be part of the argument? I somehow never learner the principle of vegitation liberty.


31 posted on 12/14/2012 12:47:21 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: Mr. Know It All
The government banned a commonly-occurring weed that has killed exactly nobody in 25,000 years and some people on Free Republic can’t cheer them on enough. Maybe we have the nanny state we deserve.

But it did make black jazz musicians have sex with white women, according to the jack-booted thug bureaucrat who was the driving force behind its prohibition.

32 posted on 12/14/2012 12:50:39 PM PST by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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To: Durus
Pot has killed plenty of people in 25000 years, don’t kid yourself.

The most dangerous side effect of marijuana is prison rape.

33 posted on 12/14/2012 12:53:22 PM PST by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies; Owl558; Mr. Know It All

Funny thing is, because laws against driving while under the influence of drugs don’t always prevent people from driving under the influence . . .

They have another law to prevent people from sitting still under the influence.


34 posted on 12/14/2012 12:58:48 PM PST by Age of Reason
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

“Nobody ever died from the proximate cause of using marijuana - but many have died from the proximate cause of using alcohol.”

Correct and specific. Do you think we should not count marijuana-related/alcohol-related deaths when discussing the legalization question? Doesn’t that kind of distort the discussion?

Personally, my opinion is that we should legalize or quasi-legalize, but let’s be honost and open-eyed about it. We should not assert or imply that lives are not harmed by using the drug.


35 posted on 12/14/2012 12:59:35 PM PST by Owl558 ("Those who remember George Satayana are doomed to repeat him")
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To: Age of Reason; Owl558; Mr. Know It All
They have another law to prevent people from sitting still under the influence.

Sitting still in a motor vehicle? Or sitting still anywhere?

36 posted on 12/14/2012 1:13:03 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("mouth piece from the pit of hell" (Bellflower, 11/10/2012))
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To: Owl558
Nobody ever died from the proximate cause of using marijuana - but many have died from the proximate cause of using alcohol.

Correct and specific. Do you think we should not count marijuana-related/alcohol-related deaths when discussing the legalization question?

I think we should discuss either both or neither of marijuana-related and alcohol-related deaths - and that any legalization discussion should include not only the pros and cons of legalizing marijuana but also the pros and cons of (re)illegalizing alcohol.

37 posted on 12/14/2012 1:17:48 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("mouth piece from the pit of hell" (Bellflower, 11/10/2012))
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To: Tublecane

Because there wasn’t one.

Here’s a quote worth remembering while the boot of the oppressor grows heavier:

“He who will not rule himself will be ruled by another.”

It is those who will not rule themselves that get my ire up, because I suffer under the oppressive restrictions they bring down on us all.

Like a teacher who says, “Nobody gets to go to recess until the entire class is quiet and finishes their work,”... or like a judge who says, “One more outburst like that and I’ll clear this entire courtroom,”... well, you get the point.

When a community polices itself instead of adopting that corrupt “live and let live” libertarian hogwash, government restraint is unnecessary. Such were the earlier days of America, and worthy of the term “self-government”.


38 posted on 12/14/2012 1:47:36 PM PST by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: ZirconEncrustedTweezers
Oh, the horror! I never should have lived this long. :)

In first grade, I took a bunch of my dad's old TV vacuum tubes to class and was smashing them in the metal wastebasket, releasing the gas (presumably argon), telling the kids it was "teargas" (it had a distinct scent). If I had done that as a first-grader today, I would have been put away.
39 posted on 12/14/2012 2:20:43 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

We know how prohibition ended up. We also know that in other countries where quasi-legalization has been tried the usage rate stayed about the same.


40 posted on 12/14/2012 2:27:08 PM PST by Owl558 ("Those who remember George Satayana are doomed to repeat him")
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To: Owl558
'Joao Goulao, Portugal's top drug official, said that before decriminalization "we had a huge problem with drug use ... around 100,000 people hooked on heroin."

'Then they started treating drug use more like a parking ticket. People caught with drugs get a slap on the wrist, sometimes a fine.

'Independent studies have found the number of people in Portugal who say they regularly do drugs stayed about the same. And the best news, said Goulao: "Addiction itself decreased a lot."

'At first, police were skeptical of the law, but Joao Figueira, chief inspector of Lisbon's drug unit, told me that decriminalization changed lots of minds.

'"The level of conflicts on the street are reduced. Drug-related robberies are reduced. And now the police are not the enemies of the consumers!"

'And teen drug use is down.'

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2852352/posts

41 posted on 12/14/2012 2:41:06 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("mouth piece from the pit of hell" (Bellflower, 11/10/2012))
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To: Mr. Know It All

“Marijuana itself kills nobody.”

“You can’t overdose on weed” is a fair statement, as is, “you can’t overdose on LSD”, but it cannot be seperated from the impaired decision-making that then follows. That’s sort of like argueing that in the entire history of guns, nobody has ever been killed by one because it is the BULLET that actually kills you. Both are interrelated.


42 posted on 12/14/2012 2:52:02 PM PST by Owl558 ("Those who remember George Satayana are doomed to repeat him")
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To: LearsFool

Did government step in because the community stopped policing itself, or did the community stop policing itself because the government stepped in? I think historically the latter has more evidence behind it, though it may be impossible to prove. In any case even if the government is only responding to parental or community failure I atoll blame the government. If not on efficiency grounds then on moral grounds. Arguing otherwise means you think such interference is justified, even if they step in only after private failure. Which might be grounds not to consider you a conservative (there must be some hard boundaries).

Besides, who said the community has failed? Is there really a buckyball problem? Did buckyball tragedies and the people’s inability to respond to them beg for public health intrusion, or were busibodies out seeking for something to ban? I see absolutely no evidence this was something just begging to be regulated.

I can see blaming the people for falling short of the eternal vigilence standard. I can see putting the onus on voters as opposed to dirty politicians and dirty bureaucrats. But treating it as a legitimate substitute for missing private responsibility is anathematic. Perhaps he who will not rule himself will be ruled by others. But that does NOT make others’ rule legitimate.


43 posted on 12/14/2012 3:08:17 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: Tublecane
Perhaps he who will not rule himself will be ruled by others. But that does NOT make others’ rule legitimate.

That's the persistent refrain of conservatives. And yet it's a futile one because it ignores the problem: the people's incapacity for self-government.

Did government step in because the community stopped policing itself, or did the community stop policing itself because the government stepped in? I think historically the latter has more evidence behind it

I believe with Jefferson that the cycle of tyranny and self-government is a perpetual one. But this argument assumes the presence of a virtuous populace (i.e. one capable of self-government).

The lack of such a populace in today's America extends the duration of tyranny. This is the problem we must address before the cycle will turn once again. To rail against the oppression of the ruler when the people are incapable of ruling themselves is like standing in the rain and complaining about getting wet.
44 posted on 12/14/2012 3:46:04 PM PST by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: bassmaner

That’s a pretty serious side effect.


45 posted on 12/14/2012 4:47:20 PM PST by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

“...the number of people in Portugal who say they regularly do drugs stayed about the same.”

I think we agree.


46 posted on 12/14/2012 4:47:26 PM PST by Owl558 ("Those who remember George Satayana are doomed to repeat him")
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To: Owl558

People die every day under the “influence” of:

Xanax
Tobacco
Caffeine
Valium
Penicillin
Sugar
Ad infinitum

Are those things the proximate causes of their deaths or was plain old fashioned stupid?


47 posted on 12/14/2012 4:52:03 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Owl558
That’s sort of like argueing that in the entire history of guns, nobody has ever been killed by one because it is the BULLET that actually kills you.

How about "Guns don't kill people, people do." Is that a bad argument because I see it a lot.

48 posted on 12/14/2012 5:40:46 PM PST by Mr. Know It All
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To: Lurker

“Are those things the proximate causes of their deaths or was plain old fashioned stupid?”

We can cite plenty of stupidity enhancers out there and there is no lack of stupid people who simply die stupid with no enhancements at all, right? Context matters. But, they should at least be part of the conversation, as should the stupidity of the person in play. We shouldn’t dismiss the contributing factors because you can’t overdose on the drug in question. That was my initial, primary point.

JustSayNoToNannies wisely points to real world facts. The Portugese experience with quasi-legalization changed my thinking on the question.


49 posted on 12/15/2012 12:37:59 PM PST by Owl558 ("Those who remember George Satayana are doomed to repeat him")
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To: Mr. Know It All

“How about “Guns don’t kill people, people do.” Is that a bad argument...”

I said “sort of like” lol. I was trying to come up with a semi-ok example of an interrelated cause of death, not an anti-gun arguement. In my current field (tech), we try to look at such things as a mix of percentages; 50% stupidity, 30% under the influence, 20% fighting with spouse, for example. You then analyze each. That’s the idea anyway.

Hey, thanks for the discussion on nanny state dictatorship. We actually agree on broad principle as well as the specific question regarding that common plant. Are we citizens or subjects?


50 posted on 12/15/2012 12:57:26 PM PST by Owl558 ("Those who remember George Satayana are doomed to repeat him")
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