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THE ONLY WAY TO STOP A MAN WITH A GUN IS WITH A GUN
Sultan Knish ^ | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 12/15/2012 3:47:52 AM PST by expat1000



THE ONLY WAY TO STOP A MAN WITH A GUN IS WITH A GUN

America now has its second worst mass shooting. And it, as usual, accompanied by calls for gun control. It's no coincidence that we have had quite a few spree killings in such a short time. The lavish coverage of every shooting by the media encourages every shooter to think that he will be famous if he goes out and kills. And that is exactly what happens.

Our shooters are creatures of the media, not the NRA. A media that turns killers into celebrities and then warns that the only way to stop more shootings is by cracking down on firearms.

But no amount of media coverage ever stopped a man with a gun. It only encouraged him. It takes a gun to stop a man with a gun. That is the hard truth of human affairs. It is why we have a Second Amendment, it is why we have armies and police, and it is why people own guns.

There is no going back to a time before people owned guns. There is no going back to a time when violence did not exist. There is only the reality that killers stalk the streets and that we can either defend against them or take comfort in empty outrage.

Guns stop shootings. Not all the time and not every time, but they do. Gun control does not. Media coverage calling for gun control does not.

Gun crime was up 35 percent in the UK which has harsh gun control laws. And Europe has had plenty of its own school massacres.

"Figures showed the number of crimes involving handguns had more than doubled since the post-Dunblane massacre ban on the weapons, from 2,636 in 1997-1998 to 5,871."

Thomas Hamilton killed 16 children in the Dunblane school massacre in 1996 using 4 handguns.

In Germany, in the Winnenden school shooting in 2009, Tim Kretschmer, killed 16 people, including 9 students. In the Erfurt massacre in 2002, Robert Steinhäuser killed 16 people with a handgun and a shotgun.

In Finland, in the Jokela school shooting of 2007, Pekka-Eric Auvinen killed 8 people.In the Kauhajoki school shooting, Matti Juhani Saari killed 10 people.

The media will pretend that this sort of thing only happens in America. It doesn't only happen in America. It happens where killings do.

Gun control isn't about putting an end to horrors, it's about controlling people. And people who are used to being controlled have even less ability to cope with the uncontrolled and the uncontrollable.

Regulators think about the big picture. They don't think about the individual. They think only about how to control people who follow rules. But shooters, by definition, do not follow rules. They are men who have stepped outside the system and care nothing for its rules. They want to kill, and they will find a way. And when they come, the only way to stop a gun is with a gun.





IF YOU NEEDED A REASON TO BE HOPEFUL ABOUT SYRIA...

Obama is inviting Sheikh Mouaz Alkhatib of the Muslim Brotherhood, current head of the Syrian rebels, to Washington, who has expressed pro-Israel opinions in the past, such as writing that one of Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein’s positive legacies was “terrifying the Jews.”

Sheikh Mouaz Akkhatib got his invite a few days after the Sheikh defended Al Qaeda. Because defending Al Qaeda is what it takes to get a Washington invite these days.

“We’ve made a decision that the Syrian Opposition Coalition is now inclusive enough, is reflective and representative enough of the Syrian population, that we consider them the legitimate representative of the Syrian people in opposition to the Assad regime,” said Obama.

But it’s not inclusive enough for Sheikh Mouaz Alkhatib who thinks Obama is a spoilsport for not recognizing Al Qaeda.

“The logic under which we consider one of the parts that fights against the Assad regime as a terrorist organization is a logic one must reconsider,” Al-Khatib told reporters in Marrakesh, Morocco.

What could possibly go wrong? If the Syrian rebels don't win, it will be a real tragedy. For the ghost of Osama bin Laden, currently haunting a Holiday Inn in Marrakesh.




CATHOLICPHOBIA SWEEPING THE NATION

The FBI’s hate crimes statistics actually show a slight decrease in Anti-Muslim hate crimes, but a significant increase in Anti-Catholic hate crimes which jumped from 4.2 percent to 5.2 percent.

Anti-Protestant hate crimes rose from 3.3 percent to 3.7 percent. Hate crimes targeting atheists fell from 0.5 to 0.3.

I wonder what this increase in anti-Catholic attacks could be attributed to? Paging Sandra Fluke.




DICTATORS ALL THE WAY DOWN

On a cold winter’s day, two years later, Obama celebrated the fall of Mubarak by proclaiming that “the people of Egypt have spoken, their voices have been heard, and Egypt will never be the same.” Now one year later, in the teeth of another winter, an Islamist winter, Egypt seems very much the same.

Obama pledged to create a new beginning by ending, in the name of democracy, the old policy of supporting dictators, only to inaugurate a brand new policy of supporting dictators in the name of democracy. The ritual democratic elections led to the same place that they did in Iraq and the Palestinian Authority. And now Obama is forced to support a dictatorship in order to support democracy.

The world may not rest on turtles or infinite universes, but the Middle East does rest on dictators and no amount of new beginnings has changed that. Pull back one dictator and another pops up in his place. Hold elections, plan regime change, send in your activists or your warplanes, and when the dust settles and all the democracy dreamers are congratulating themselves on having pulled off a successful election, the new dictator steps out from behind the curtain to give his acceptance speech, impose martial law and begin rounding up dissidents.

...from my article "It's Dictators All The Way Down"




SECOND TERM JAM

Rice has gone down, triangulated by Republicans and Clintonists. Rice got her job by betraying Hillary. Now she lost her dream job because she betrayed Hillary. In D.C. what goes around comes around and with Hillary being tipped for 2016, Rice's career odometer is looking really bad.

But the Rice withdrawal is also beginning to make the second term blues come out early. Second terms is usually when administrations at any executive level begin to jam up and come apart. And there are small signs that Obama Inc. is headed for the second term blahs.




IF IT'S GOOD FOR DETROIT, IT'S GOOD FOR AMERICA

Some public school teachers in the City of Detroit and around the state of Michigan are reportedly taking a vacation or a sick day today to protest right-to-work legislation likely to be approved by the state legislature.

Detroit public-school eighth graders do even worse in math than they do in reading, according to the Department of Education. While only 7 percent scored highly enough on the department’s National Assessment of Educational Progress test in 2011 to be rated “proficient” or better in reading, only 4 percent scored highly enough to be rated “proficient” or better in math.

But come on, that doesn't mean that Detroit teachers should lose their tiny pitiful paychecks, just because only 4 percent of their students can count and only 7 percent of their students can read.

Does it?

So what do Detroit teachers get paid in exchange for a 4 percent and 7 percent success rate?

The Detroit metropolitan area has the highest average public school teacher pay among metropolitan areas for which data are available, at $47.28 per hour, followed by the San Francisco metropolitan area at $46.70 per hour, and the New York metropolitan area at $45.79 per hour.

Poor bankrupt Detroit pays teachers more than San Fran and NYC, cities that have actual money. The average teacher’s salary in Detroit is $71,031.

 Sadly though Detroit has more teachers than students because there is uh a mass exodus underway.

Detroit Public Schools had 5,029 full-time teachers and 88,774 students in 2009-10, according to the Michigan Department of Education. But DPS officials estimate that there will be 58,517 students enrolled in 2014.

Good news everybody. One day Detroit will finally achieve a one student to one teacher ratio. And if that doesn't get the scores up to 7 and 5 percent, I don't know what will.




MILITANT ISLAMIST LEADER ABANDONS TERRORISM, FOCUSES ON CONSTRUCTION

“Anti-Soviet warrior puts his army on the road to peace: The Saudi businessman who recruited mujahedin now uses them for large-scale building projects in Sudan.

Outside Sudan, Mr Bin Laden is not regarded with quite such high esteem. The Egyptian press claims he brought hundreds of former Arab fighters back to Sudan from Afghanistan, while the Western embassy circuit in Khartoum has suggested that some of the ‘Afghans’ whom this Saudi entrepreneur flew to Sudan are now busy training for further jihad wars in Algeria, Tunisia and Egypt.

Mr Bin Laden is well aware of this. ‘The rubbish of the media and the embassies,’ he calls it. ‘I am a construction engineer and an agriculturalist. If I had training camps here in Sudan, I couldn’t possibly do this job.’

That was from 1993. I wonder how many news stories from 2023 will boggle our minds with their complete willful denial of reality.




LIVING THE LIFE OF MOHAMMAD

Mohammad Safi is a lucky man. Graduate of a medical school in Afghanistan, Safi took in $822,302, or five times more than Governor Jerry Brown, working at a mental hospital.

As California’s top public employee, Mohammad Safi logged so many hours that all the clocks melted, Dali style. In 2006, Safi was making a mere $90,682 starting salary, but not long after he was taking home more than $503,000 in on-call pay for every hour he spent hanging around in a motel somewhere near the hospital.

But we really need to crack down on obscene CEO compensation at taxpayer expense. And Mo isn't a unique overachiever. California is full of dedicated public employees collecting so much overtime that prosperity is just another tax hike and bankruptcy away.

California may be sliding toward bankruptcy, but its state employees have been raking in the gold with nearly 1 billion in overtime.

In Micronesia, Somalia and the British Virgin Islands, 1 billion dollars is their entire GDP. But in California, 1 billion dollars is overtime.
But fortunately there's a solution in sight.

Legislation introduced Tuesday would give about 400,000 undocumented immigrants in California the same rights as citizens to unemployment benefits and various other government services.

Hello Mega-Quake? I think it's time now..




FORGET AL QAEDA, BEWARE OF CHRISTIAN AND BUDDHIST TERRORISTS

The song remains the same. In the year 2030, Islamic terrorism will be over and we'll all be fighting raging armies of Christians and Hindus.

The National Intelligence Council answers to the Director of National Intelligence who was the bright fellow who edited Al Qaeda out of the CIA Benghazi talking points. So it’s no wonder that he’s also managed to edit Islamic terrorism out of the world in 2030. The pen truly is mightier than the sword.

But with Muslim terrorism gone by 2030, the NIC is on top of the next big terror threat.

“Taking a global perspective, future terrorists could come from many different religions, including Christianity and Hinduism. Right-wing and left-wing ideological groups – some of the oldest users of terrorist tactics – also will pose threats.”

Forget Muslim terrorists, it’s time to focus on those Christian and Hindu terrorists. And then the Buddhist and Amish death squads.

Folks, we’re looking at a trend of Chassidic Jewish suicide bombers, Jainists ramming planes into London Bridge and Bahai states working to develop nuclear weapons.

Unitarian bus bombers are a real possibility and we can’t rule out 7th Day Adventist snipers on every roof in Baltimore. And when the Secular Humanist junta takes over Bali and begins implementing secular law, then no woman will be safe.

These are the real threats we need to focus on, instead of wasting time worrying about the mythical problem of Muslim terrorism.

I even hear Osama bin Laden is abandoning terrorism and turning to construction.




IT'S OBAMA'S WORLD, WE JUST LIVE IN IT

Head of Obama Jobs Council: “Communism Works”

UN Official Arrested for Aiding Al Qaeda

Muslim Brotherhood Propoganda Event in New York Explodes into Violence

Morsi Coming to Visit Obama in 2013

73% of New Jobs in Last 5 Months are in Government

Food Stamp Use 50% Higher Under Obama Than Under Bush

Obama Training Syrian Rebels to Secure Syrian WMDs

 High School Principal Claims Indians Were Scalped at Thanksgiving

“We must very, very, very, very understanding to our Native Americans, who lost and sacrificed because of the scalping that took place on Thanksgiving. They were invited to a dinner, and then their lives were taken from them.”

Egypt’s Top Judge Wants to Chop Off the Hands of Thieves

The judges have a burning desire to instate shari’a laws regarding Islamic hudud punishments… When shari’a laws are implemented, they leave no room for bargaining. Any country that refrains from implementing these punishments is lacking in many ways. 
Muslim Country With 25% Slave Population Elected VP of UN Human Rights Council

Obama Promises Terrorists That He Will Stop Israeli House Construction

Jordanian King Abdullah II conveyed U.S. assurances to Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas that Washington will not allow a new Israeli settlement plan to pass, a Palestinian official said Thursday.

How the EPA is Making it Harder for You to Afford a Burger


Obama Backed Muslim Takeover of Cote d’Ivoire Leads to Campaign of Violence Against Gays

Victims said they immediately noticed a difference under Ouattara compared to the Gbagbo years, when such abuses were not nearly as extreme or widespread.

Ouattara signed a decree creating the FRCI in March 2011, and it was composed primarily of members of the New Forces rebel group, which used to control Côte d’Ivoire’s predominantly Muslim north.

Victims almost uniformly attribute the attacks to the fact that many soldiers in the new army are Muslim.

During one attack in Abidjan’s Zone 4 district in July, Raissa said a soldier invoked the Quran in justifying the violence.

“He said, “in the Qur’an it says that when you kill a homosexual you go to heaven,’” she recalled.

There are just so many ways for Muslims to go to heaven. But if Muslims ever do succeed in killing all non-Muslims, how will they ever get to heaven?



UNDER THE BOXTHORN TREE

For Muslims the boxthorn tree is their botanical metaphor for the Jews, but for Israelis their own self-chosen botanical metaphor is the prickly pear. Both are thorny plants at home in the desert and more than capable of protecting themselves in that harsh environment. For Muslims the Jew is a tree that must be torn out of the soil, but the Jew in Israel sees his people becoming trees whose roots hold fast to the soil of a revived land.


AND SPEAKING OF BOOKS

...here's an excerpt from Edward Cline's new novel. Cline is the author of the Sparrowhawk series and here in "We Three Kings" he takes us to an entirely different milieu where "the "three" kings are Fury, the hero; Sheik Quamisi, and Wade Lambert, a NYPD homicide detective taken hostage by the sheik."

Quamisi frowned. “You are not a man of God, Mr. Fury?”

Fury smiled. “I don’t even worship the false ones.”

“That makes you the universal infidel,” said Quamisi, who then laughed. He smiled generously at Fury. “Truly a man of the world, with no eye on the next one. And he knows this world.” A distant, speculative look came to the sheik’s face. “A formidable man,” he added. “I must thank you for accepting the invitation, Mr. Fury. You have been the sole bright note in what has been a tedious evening.”

“I didn’t come here to celebrate,” said Fury.

“I imagine not. But it is difficult to fit you into the familiar categories. I confess I am at a loss.”

“Stephen Crenshaw,” Fury said. “Queen Una and the Hall of the Firmament.”

“Yes,” said Quamisi tentatively. “I understand from Mr. Dean that you do not wish to sell the coin in question for any figure. I am certain now that your words are not mere sales strategy. I would make you an extremely high offer for it, but I feel that it would simply be adding zeroes to zeroes.”

“Mr. Dean’s been dirtying his hands lately,” remarked Fury.

Delight spread over Quamisi’s face. “You know something of our attitudes, Mr. Fury! What a pleasant surprise!”

“The dirt on Mr. Dean’s hands is not the usual kind, gotten through honest work.”

“Truly cosmopolitan!” exclaimed Quamisi. “Tell me: What is your view on the state of the world today?”

Fury sighed. “I don’t do soliloquies on the obvious.”

“Poor Mr. Crenshaw,” said Quamisi.

“Not so poor,” replied Fury.

Quamisi shrugged and permitted himself a smirk. “If one man owns a handful of marbles, and another the quarry from which they came before being encased in glass, I will not quibble over the issues of scale.”



AND THE ROUNDUP

Director Blue has the union numbers rounded down to the penny. Here's a tidbit.

Financial Information

    Annual Dues Paid to Unions: $8,209,113,955
    Total Union Assets: $8,775,962,626
    Total Spending
        Representational Activities: $4,074,510,945
        Political Activities: $582,248,875
        External Contributions: $333,982,197
        Overhead: $3,914,513,501
    Unions that fail to pass Department of Labor audits: 92%

Someone has to defend the "middle class".


IT'S ALL IN THE NUMBERS

....from a comment on American Digest

They'll keep track of how often you help them. The compliant ones, who respond to their pleas, will soon start getting bennies. And who the heck is paying for all this? Shoot, no one had the courage to sue them when they were laundering millions in illegal foreign money during both elections. The Courts and the constitutional lawyers mewled that "nobody has standing to sue". Now that they are beyond the reach of election law, the money just magically appears. None dare call it treason.

Like a pusher or a pimp, they'll next try to get you to graduate to the "hard stuff": direct action. Please, they'll say, we really need your help, show up at this time and place to help the Usurper. They'll loan you a t-shirt to wear (and ask you to buy it). The leaders will have special shirts, and campaign-style buttons, and perhaps cute little hats. And you'll go where you're told, and do what you're asked to. They'll bus you there and give you a stipend. You're One of Them now.

And if you keep answering their call, you go higher on the "One of Us" list, and qualify for more bennies. Free phones, debt forgiveness, extra ration cards. Chevy Volts at an unheard of discount.

Watch for it.

The turning point is when the purple T-shirts disappear, and it becomes button-down shirts with epaulets. Uniforms. Insignia. The hats aren't so cute anymore. You'll be part of the team now, the core of the Usurper's civilian national security force. And you'll go where you're told, and you'll do what you're told, because the bennies keep coming, and you're in for a penny, in for a pound. 



IT'S OBAMA'S PARTY AND HE'LL ACCIDENTALLY ARM ASSAD IF HE WANTS TO

Meanwhile, actual Iranian tankers are shutting off their automated reporting systems as they approach Libya, and leaving them off until they have departed Libyan ports.  Peripheral evidence of this has been noted by journalists like Claudia Rosett (I wrote about it here), but the analysis reported by Reuters on 7 December provides the first specific confirmation that Iranian ships are shutting their Automated Information Systems (AIS) off to avoid being tracked into and out of Libyan ports.

The likelihood that arms have been shipped from Libya to Syria by this method is high enough to be considered a certainty – and, of course, the arms would have gone to Bashar al-Assad.  He is Iran’s protégé, and Iranian solicitude for Syrian shipping is devoted to bolstering his chances.  The irony here is obvious, as there have also been plenty of reports of arms shipments from Libya to the Syrian rebels, some of which may have been facilitated by the US mission in Benghazi.  The possibility that arms for Libya also got packed off to Assad himself cannot be discounted.

...from J.E. Dyer at Optimistic Conservative




THE PLANET, IT ISN'T MELTING

Breaking news from the US – h/t Watts Up With That? – where a leaked draft of the IPCC's latest report AR5 admits what some of us have suspected for a very long time: that the case for man-made global warming is looking weaker by the day and that the sun plays a much more significant role in "climate change" than the scientific "consensus" has previously been prepared to concede.

Here's the killer admission:

    Many empirical relationships have been reported between GCR or cosmogenic isotope archives and some aspects of the climate system (e.g., Bond et al., 2001; Dengel et al., 2009; Ram and Stolz, 1999). The forcing from changes in total solar irradiance alone does not seem to account for these observations, implying the existence of an amplifying mechanism such as the hypothesized GCR-cloud link. We focus here on observed relationships between GCR and aerosol and cloud properties.

That's a rather fancy way of saying... it was the sun. Now all that the environmentalists have to do is fulfill man's greatest dream by putting out the sun.



TOPICS: Government; Politics; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; newtown; sandyhook; secondamendment

1 posted on 12/15/2012 3:47:57 AM PST by expat1000
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2 posted on 12/15/2012 3:49:19 AM PST by expat1000
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3 posted on 12/15/2012 3:50:20 AM PST by expat1000
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To: expat1000; Fightin Whitey
Gun control isn't about putting an end to horrors, it's about controlling people. And people who are used to being controlled have even less ability to cope with the uncontrolled and the uncontrollable.

This reminds me of those Wyoming college students who ran and hid when their instructor was attacked.

4 posted on 12/15/2012 3:57:15 AM PST by Tax-chick (I'm a nightmare, not a dream.)
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To: expat1000

Don’t say that. When confronting Breivik in Norway, he was opposed by squadrons of highly trained office workers trying to paddle a zodiac and waiting for a heli pilot to show up.

Eventually he got bored, stopped shooting and waited for arrest (and the press).


5 posted on 12/15/2012 3:58:43 AM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: Hardraade

Breivik is the exception of mass shooters....he has been determined to be totally sane. He had a motive behind his episode, and it may take fifty years to determine if his theory is correct.


6 posted on 12/15/2012 4:02:49 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: expat1000

We’ll give up the Second Amendment when the media gives up the First Amendment.


7 posted on 12/15/2012 4:19:12 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: expat1000
Gun control isn’t about putting an end to horrors, it’s about controlling people. And people who are used to being controlled have even less ability to cope with the uncontrolled and the uncontrollable.

They're coming for them. They've been waiting and hoping for something like this.

8 posted on 12/15/2012 4:23:56 AM PST by Perseverando (Gun control? It's really not about gun control. It's about PEOPLE CONTROL!)
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To: expat1000

There is something about yesterday’s incident that is too perfect from a gun control advocates standpoint. So perfect in fact that I am concerned it may all have been choreographed. Currently, I am reading some reports that say the shooter’s mother had no connection to the school or the classrooms where the shooting occurred. I will be looking at this incident very critically for evidence of an underlying plot.


9 posted on 12/15/2012 4:36:00 AM PST by iontheball
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To: expat1000

Remember FORT HOOD!! It happened a couple of years by an Islammist terrorist US Army captain who has yet to be prosecuted. He has been able to make a mockery of the military justice, with his demand to wear a beard and getting the judge dumped from the case. Yet our so-called CIC remains mute out of his concern for his Islamist buddies. But have no fear that Obama will use this CT. horror to scare the people into tearing up the 2nd amendment.


10 posted on 12/15/2012 4:38:35 AM PST by kenmcg (scapegoat)
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To: txrefugee
We’ll give up the Second Amendment when the media gives up the First Amendment.

Good one!

11 posted on 12/15/2012 4:41:51 AM PST by arasina (Communism is EVIL. So there.)
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To: expat1000

This has the Beslan school massacre all over it.


12 posted on 12/15/2012 4:44:54 AM PST by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: Perseverando

Good thing we have a President for Infanticide who is crying for dead children and asking that they be disarmed just as he wants the USA without nuclear umbrella for allies. (sarcasm off)


13 posted on 12/15/2012 4:46:48 AM PST by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: txrefugee
We’ll give up the Second Amendment when the media gives up the First Amendment.

The media thinks the First Amendment is just for them. It doesn't apply to anyone else.

BTW: From Daniel Greenfield the day before the Sandy Hook elementary massacre (he must be psychic) - Gun Control, People Control and Thought Control

14 posted on 12/15/2012 4:48:02 AM PST by Perseverando (Gun control? It's really not about gun control. It's about PEOPLE CONTROL!)
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To: expat1000

Or with a mortar...


15 posted on 12/15/2012 4:52:36 AM PST by Reaganite Republican
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To: All

Liberals want gun control and censorship. It frees them from the likelihood of immediate consequences for their destructive behavior.
Gun free zones are free kill zones. A million crimes are stopped yearly by armed citizens protecting themselves, their neighbors, family and property with guns.
States with the most stringent gun control laws suffer the highest incidence of gun related crime.
The only meaningful question is, what will it take to stop an armed lunatic shooting children in a classroom?
Disarming teachers, parents, staff and students will not stop him.
Calling the police with an average response time of 15 minutes will not stop him.
Confiscating every gun in the nation will not stop him.
Locking up every sociopath will not stop him.
The ONLY way to stop a madman from killing children is to physically stop him with equal or superior force. Any number of personnel at the school could have stopped this rampage with a gun. An armed citizenry is a safe citizenry.

Meanwhile, the most vicious, inhumane slaughter imaginable goes on with the blessing of every true racist. The infanticide of 50 million citizens, predominantly black, is applauded as freedom from antiquated morality.
The agenda of the left is identical in both cases. They demand that restrictions be placed on the ability to stop the slaughter of children. They want the teacher with a loaded gun in her desk imprisoned. She should never be permitted to protect her students.
Give up guns? Give up abortion first. Then we will talk about the second amendment and the right to life.


16 posted on 12/15/2012 5:52:13 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (Better the devil we can destroy than the Judas we must tolerate.)
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To: pepsionice

Breivik was a false flag, and it is almost certain what kind of false flag.

The left in Norway was in steep decline when he appeared, and the islamists under pressure from the right/libertarians. Overnight, the right/libertarians became literally hunted. I, myself, had people come on my front door telling me the police would no doubt be on their way. The socialist parties ballooned, and there is NO party anymre - not even the right - without token muslims/muslim kommissars.

You might even see him as test run for the Obamoids.


17 posted on 12/15/2012 6:26:01 AM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: expat1000

+1 PING!!


18 posted on 12/15/2012 6:56:09 AM PST by Terry L Smith
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To: expat1000

Someone at a Starbucks (yeah, I know, why am I there? Sorry, we all have our demons...) Anyway, someone at a Starbucks blathered on about how this is absolutely clear why we need to ban assault weapons! I couldn’t help myself, after a long day, to have such stupidity on display, the naked glee of pouncing upon a tragedy to make political hay.

I spoke up loudly, “What, so he wouldn’t have had an assault weapon when he went into the classroom and started shooting children?”

“Exactly!” crowed the woman. “Think of all the lives saved!”

“Wow, wonder what would have happened if the shooter had bothered to take the assault weapon out of the back of his car. It’s alright, don’t let any facts get in the way of your agenda. Better hurry, the little bodies might cool before you can pick their bones for your cause.”

I stalked out after that, and took a few minutes to calm down from my rage, the woman hurried out, and a couple people who had been with her exited as well. The young woman who had been listening to her friend thanked me for shutting her up. And I apologized for causing a scene and disturbing their evening. “And this is why I’m a conservative,” she replied. “We have the decency to realize when it’s appropriate to speak out, and embarrassed to have to tell liberals when they’re being idiots.”


19 posted on 12/15/2012 6:58:29 AM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: expat1000

Instead of conservatives just fighting a defensive battle against the gun-controlling left, it is important that we also make this an *offensive* fight as well.

That is, *they* call for gun control; so *we* call for expediting the death penalty for murderers.

Right now, part of the public are being persuaded to be more supportive of gun control, precisely because it is the only argument being made. Just defending gun rights is just a “static defense”, so will likely persuade far fewer people.

However, if while defending gun rights, conservatives launch their own attack, demanding that the federal courts quit spending decades on minutiae excuses for *not* executing murderers, it will persuade a LOT of people that a faster and more certain death penalty is needed.

Some easy arguments:

“If this murderer had survived, should he have been executed within a year or two for his crime, or wait two decades, over arguments like injecting him with one drug or three, that have been heard time and time again?”

“The sane thing to do is execute killers like this quickly, instead of letting liberals use them as toys.”

“It costs the taxpayers millions of dollars to put vicious killers like this in prison for life. Instead they should be executed without delay.”

“Why are the same people who are in favor of gun control opposed to executing murderers?”


20 posted on 12/15/2012 7:43:37 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Pennies and Nickels will NO LONGER be Minted as of 1/1/13 - Tim Geithner, US Treasury Sect)
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To: expat1000

***THE ONLY WAY TO STOP A MAN WITH A GUN IS WITH A GUN***

Now that is just nonsense! I remember that back in the 1970s many TV movies and shows had the murderous violent criminal cornered, so they send in some chick reporter who talks him into giving up! It always worked-on TV.


21 posted on 12/15/2012 9:30:19 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (SAVE THE SUMATRAN RAT MONKEY!)
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To: expat1000
Some resources on school threats for consideration. (There’s some old news here, but evil, terrorism and massacres never go out of style.)

Terrorists – coming to a school near you
Police ill-equipped to defend against an American Beslan
WND
Published: 04/02/2007 at 1:00 AM

Note: Killology Research Group website does not seem to still be actively updated.

Mass Slaughter In Our Schools: The Terrorists' Chilling Plan?
By Chuck Remsberg
Senior PoliceOne Contributor

School Safety Notes and Articles About School Safety by Col. Grossman
Preventing School Violence
School Shooting Contingency Plans & Considerations
”Preparing for School Attacks" published in The Police Marksman

School Safety Notes, Articles, And Links About School Safety by Other Authors
Rise in 'shool terror attacks' - New Important Article
A School Lockdown/Emergency Drill Success Story
Rapid Response/Active Shooter Lesson Plan
Safe 2 Tell

22 posted on 12/15/2012 10:59:09 AM PST by Perseverando (Gun control? It's really not about gun control. It's about PEOPLE CONTROL!)
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To: Tax-chick

Hear that.

What’s at once rather droll and also appalling is that we now have cities of millions of people whose response to violence and spreading chaos will be, literally and figuratively, to run and hide in the bathroom.

This is why we see media figures and rich leftists and so many politicians beg and plead for more gun control, more welfare spending and more preferential treatment for “minorites,” for the “poor” and for the worthless in general: not because they sympathize with them but because they are scared s-—less of the carnage to come.


23 posted on 12/15/2012 12:04:49 PM PST by Fightin Whitey
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