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Police oppose Gun Control on Public Radio
Gun Watch ^ | 16 December, 2012 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 12/15/2012 4:42:18 PM PST by marktwain

While the old media still act as gatekeepers to promote the failed policy of gun control, people are finding ways to spread the alternative message of freedom and responsibility.

My brother heard a retired police officer call in to Wisconsin Public radio yesterday. The officer said that they trained hard, but they were always too late. The answer was not more gun control, but to adopt the Israeli solution of arming teachers and older students.

Then listening to a national public radio program, onpoint.wbur.org, that has a special on the Connecticut school shooting, he heard a different officer make almost exactly the same points.

Both officers were quickly shut off, and the people on the show seemed as much dumbfounded as anything as they seemed unable to understand that there was an alternate method that had been tested and found successful to stop school shootings. That police officers gave them this information confused them even more.

The truth is getting out. The MSM no longer have a stranglehold on information flow.


TOPICS: Education; Government; History; Politics
KEYWORDS: 2012; banglist; connecticut; guncontrol; police; policecallin; protectingschools; publicradio; sandyhookgundefense; sandyhookshooting; schoolprotection; secondamendment; youwillnotdisarmus
The new media and concerned citizens are getting an alternate view out. The MSM no longer controls the information flow. They can for a few hours or days, but we work around the old gatekeepers.
1 posted on 12/15/2012 4:42:25 PM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain
My local constabulary knows that if I have pants on, I'm armed. They are very comfortable with that.

PBS only wants its leftist message to get out.

/johnny

2 posted on 12/15/2012 4:46:24 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I live on a military base so we are unarmed.

We have to keep the guns locked in one case and the ammo in another locked box. If we have a CCL, we have to pull over before we come onto post, unload our weapon and lock the gun and the ammo up in the trunk.

Then we wonder why our trained soldiers were mowed down on Ft. Hood.

What kills me is the irony of hearing Leftists say, “Only police and soldiers should have guns...”

Really? So why can’t my trained soldier husband carry a gun? Or even have one loaded in the house?


3 posted on 12/15/2012 4:53:27 PM PST by Marie ("The last time Democrats gloated this hard after a health care victory, they lost 60 House seats.")
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To: marktwain
Usually they just interview police chiefs, careerists who give them the politically correct nostrum they are looking for. These were apparently callers, who are inconveniently difficult to control.
4 posted on 12/15/2012 4:54:44 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Marie
It is stupid.

Thank you and your husband for your service.

It's not just the soldiers, sailors and airmen that serve, but families, too.

/johnny

5 posted on 12/15/2012 4:59:18 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: marktwain

If the left gave the money they make on violence they push on us in movies, TV, Music and games, we could feed all the hungry, clothe the poor and reduce the deficit


6 posted on 12/15/2012 5:06:57 PM PST by NoLibZone (If the left gave the money they make on violence, we could feed all the hungry and reduce the defict)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I heard that the Brady Bunch are gonna outlaw your wearing pants.


7 posted on 12/15/2012 5:39:09 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: NoLibZone

One gun control law I would support is the disarming of Hollywood in it’s entirety.


8 posted on 12/15/2012 5:43:11 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: marktwain
We know what the statists' real agenda is, and it's not "public safety."


9 posted on 12/15/2012 5:44:55 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Navy Patriot; Marcella
They don't want to go there... On so many levels. ;)

/johnny

10 posted on 12/15/2012 5:45:28 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: marktwain
"Police oppose Gun Control on Public Radio"

But not in politics.


11 posted on 12/15/2012 5:53:43 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: marktwain

12 posted on 12/15/2012 6:07:37 PM PST by BBell (And Now for Something Completely Different)
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To: marktwain
Good policemen!
13 posted on 12/15/2012 6:07:46 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: familyop
The more rural they are the more they oppose it. Even in the big cities one will find a lot of LEOs who think the people should be armed.

But they are not heard from as the MSM pushes the anti’s to the front.

14 posted on 12/15/2012 6:09:01 PM PST by riverrunner
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To: JRandomFreeper; Navy Patriot

“if I have pants on, I’m armed”

There is a severe problem here since JRandom (Johnny) seldom HAS his pants on, especially in summer. (I don’t have personal observation of this but I’ve been told that by Johnny himself.) :o)


15 posted on 12/15/2012 6:38:50 PM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Galt is freedom.)
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To: Marcella
If I'm outside talking to cops I'm mostly wearing pants. ;)

/johnny

16 posted on 12/15/2012 6:40:19 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

“If I’m outside talking to cops I’m mostly wearing pants. ;)”

Operative word is “mostly”.


17 posted on 12/15/2012 6:42:13 PM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Galt is freedom.)
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To: riverrunner
will find a lot of LEOs who think the people should be armed.

My local constabulary thinks that way.

/johnny

18 posted on 12/15/2012 6:42:13 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Marcella

That was more info than I wanted to know about. LOL


19 posted on 12/15/2012 6:44:16 PM PST by txnativegop (Fed up with zealots)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Let me ask you a serious question. The govn. can now FORCE people to buy health insurance, so, could they actually limit the amount of ammo we could buy? And, could Hussein cause that to happen by having Department of Firearms (whatever their initials are, can’t remember right now), write such a regulation and then enforce it with Holder’s henchmen? I’m serious here.
20 posted on 12/15/2012 6:47:22 PM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Galt is freedom.)
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To: marktwain

A friend from high school posted on FB a graphic “Israelis armed their teachers to protect kids—Why did we disarm ours?”

Then followed it up with “And I don’t even like guns”.

Lots of others went the opposite way and said we need more gun control. All female, all mothers.


21 posted on 12/15/2012 6:47:32 PM PST by Betis70 ("Leading from Behind" gets your Ambassador killed)
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To: Marcella
I don't intend to buy any government mandated health insurance policy, so I doubt they can limit the amount of ammo I can buy.

They may make a law, but enforcing it? Ask the gang-bangers in Chicago how hard it is to get a box of 9mm or .40 cal.

BATFE is the acronym you are looking for. Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives. Should be the name of a popular store, instead of a government agency.

They were established as a tax collection agency.

/johnny

22 posted on 12/15/2012 6:54:47 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Here’s what I mean - could Hussein write an executive order making that department write a regulation that a person can only buy “x” amount of ammo? If that happened, you couldn’t buy it, legally. You would have to go to an underground source. COULD HUSSEIN DO THAT?


23 posted on 12/15/2012 6:59:14 PM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Galt is freedom.)
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To: Marcella
Kid, as far as I know, the rule of law is over, except in pockets that don't include DC.

Could he? Yes? Would it be enforced? Perhaps. People want to believe that laws mean something.

Would it be fought? You bet. Lots of folks are trying to right the ship and go back to the rule of law and the Constitution (Please Lord!).

I won't be out of ammo either way.

/johnny

24 posted on 12/15/2012 7:09:05 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

check mail in a minute


25 posted on 12/15/2012 7:17:59 PM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Galt is freedom.)
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To: Marie
We have to keep the guns locked in one case and the ammo in another locked box. If we have a CCL, we have to pull over before we come onto post, unload our weapon and lock the gun and the ammo up in the trunk. Then we wonder why our trained soldiers were mowed down on Ft. Hood.

The base I work at has an armory where we have to turn our weapons over to them while on base and pick them up when we leave. They strongly urge us to use the same box the gun came in so it is neat and easy for them. Then, for Active Shooter rules of engagement, they tell us to hide and cower in fear until the shooter is right there and ready to shoot you, then go ape on him by throwing staplers at him while vigorously fighting for your life.

26 posted on 12/16/2012 4:31:24 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: trebb

>>..then go ape on him by throwing staplers at him while vigorously fighting for your life.<<

You’re joking....right?


27 posted on 12/16/2012 4:34:38 AM PST by servantboy777
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To: marktwain
the problem with the police officers and the Media is that they rarely meet...

The FOP at the state and National level is highly political, as are police chief/State Police Commander positions.

those are the people that get interviewed and they say whatever they are told to say by whatever politician they are beholding to.

The rank and file really are decent people.

28 posted on 12/16/2012 4:41:52 AM PST by Abundy
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To: NoLibZone
>>the money they make on violence they push on us in movies, TV, Music and games..<<

Right? The level of hypocrisy from the progressive liberals is just shy of breath taking.

Martin Sheen, Shawn Penn, Danny Glover, Quintin Tarentino and the like crank out films filled with gun violence, death, physical assaults, sex and drugs.

They then come out and speak against guns and violence...after the $$$deposits$$$ have cleared.

What a bunch of hypocrites!!!

29 posted on 12/16/2012 4:44:53 AM PST by servantboy777
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To: Marcella
They will come after the 2nd amendment from all directions. U.N. small arms ban, Homeland Security, Environmental regulation (lead), HHS (Health and Human Services)as a health hazard, through legislation, executive order, cost prohibitive taxes.

Sit back and watch the fun, it's about to begin in earnest.

30 posted on 12/16/2012 4:51:02 AM PST by servantboy777
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To: marktwain

31 posted on 12/16/2012 4:57:20 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: marktwain
I didn't hear the pbs shows but I made this exact same point about armed Israeli teachers yesterday morning at breakfast with a few friends of mine, one of whom is an atheist lefty, criminal defense attorney. He really is a good friend, though.

He's the one who brought up the subject by endorsing renewal of the assault weapons ban. The conversation then got very lively, thanks to me. His rebuttal of the practice of arming teachers were; that Costa Rica does not have the level of violence that we do, that Chistopher Columbus was a mass murderer, that the Constitution did not contemplate the technological advances in contemporary weaponry so it is permissible to pass laws that ban certain weapons, that ours is a violent society, and that arming teachers would just escalate the violence, meaning that criminals would just start using bombs instead of guns.

Needless to say, I didn't convince him.

Cordially,

32 posted on 12/16/2012 5:18:16 AM PST by Diamond (He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people,)
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To: marktwain; All

Rank and file LEOs are not against individuals legally owning guns. They know that the people they deal with are the ones that should not own weapons in the first place

It is usually their management that push for gun control. They are the ones that go to all the seminars and bashes where they get brainwashed by the Liberal Globalist types “you need to seize all guns” who want gun control


33 posted on 12/16/2012 5:18:36 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (Seems that the ones who understand little about the economy are economists)
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To: Diamond

Your friend who brought up “Costa Rica does not have the level of violence we (US) do” was totally wrong. Costa Rica is having major crime problems, just like the rest of Latin America. Just ask any American who has visited there in recent years


34 posted on 12/16/2012 5:24:16 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (Seems that the ones who understand little about the economy are economists)
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To: servantboy777

I wish I was joking - the wording is paraphrased, but the basic data is correct - they tell us that when confronted, to become aggressive and through available objects then to “follow through”. They don’t want anyone not in a security Police uniform holding a weapon if there’s an active shooter. The way the Security Police do things, they will likely surround the building/area first and wait until they get some sort of “go” before actively engaging (if they have the right area). The shooter, like most cases on or off bases, will likely kill all he has ammo for and either off himself or give up when out of ammo, vs. being stopped with unspent ammo and unkilled bodies.


35 posted on 12/16/2012 5:38:44 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: trebb; servantboy777

sounds like typical think tank garbage with no real world testing until 12/14/12. That approach has now been shown as utter nonsense. Next.


36 posted on 12/16/2012 5:54:29 AM PST by ican'tbelieveit (School is prison for children who have commited the crime of being born. (attr: St_Thomas_Aquinas))
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