Skip to comments.Thinking the Unthinkable
Posted on 12/15/2012 8:02:00 PM PST by Nachum
In the wake of another horrific national tragedy, its easy to talk about guns. But its time to talk about mental illness.
Three days before 20 year-old Adam Lanza killed his mother, then opened fire on a classroom full of Connecticut kindergartners, my 13-year old son Michael (name changed) missed his bus because he was wearing the wrong color pants.
I can wear these pants, he said, his tone increasingly belligerent, the black-hole pupils of his eyes swallowing the blue irises.
They are navy blue, I told him. Your schools dress code says black or khaki pants only.
They told me I could wear these, he insisted. Youre a stupid bitch. I can wear whatever pants I want to. This is America. I have rights!
You cant wear whatever pants you want to, I said, my tone affable, reasonable. And you definitely cannot call me a stupid bitch. Youre grounded from electronics for the rest of the day. Now get in the car, and I will take you to school.
I live with a son who is mentally ill. I love my son. But he terrifies me.
A few weeks ago, Michael pulled a knife and threatened to kill me and then himself after I asked him to return his overdue library books. His 7 and 9 year old siblings knew the safety planthey ran to the car and locked the doors before I even asked them to. I managed to get the knife from Michael, then methodically collected all the sharp objects in the house into a single Tupperware container that now travels with me. Through it all, he continued to scream insults at me and threaten to kill or hurt me.
(Excerpt) Read more at anarchistsoccermom.blogspot.com ...
She is an anarchist and she takes his tools away? She tells him what color pants to wear and censors his speech?
What kind of horrible anarchists is she?
I wouldn’t rule out demonic possession. She ought to try an exorcism.
I would maintain regular contact with him, but have him committed.
His normal siblings should NOT be living with that. Not for one day.
Discipline starts at birth, that kid is lost.
First off I’d never ever call my mom a stupid b, my azz would have been raw.
That kid needs an institution and/or charges against the parent when he explodes in public.
She uses Mother Jones as a reference. The nut didn’t fall far from the tree.
This is one of the reasons I never had children. This scenario terrifies me more than just about anything in the world.
And the father is where?
Retarded or not, my kid calls his mother a “stupid bitch” he gets an immediate backhand across the face and my boot up his ass. Yeah, real discipline works.
Or... you can gather up all (you hope) the sharp objects in the house and carry them around with you in a tupperware. And don’t forget to lock your bedroom door when you go to bed.
Talk about a recipe for disaster. No father in the home, father apparently half out of it too, mother incapable of doing the job herself, and the kid well on his way to becoming a devious, deviant, murderous sociopath.
And then this lady at the end of her little plaint has the blankety-blank GALL to whine about the stigmatization of mental illness!
Would we not be better off if Kleboe and Harris had been stigmatized before the carnage? Same thing with the Colorado Batman shooting, and Gabbie Gifford’s shooter, and now this (fatherless) asocial monster in Connecticut?
Stigmatized? STIGMATIZED? Does she think her rotten little spawn has suffered one-one thousandth as much as any of the families involved in these slaughters?
Bet the kid never once spoke that way to his Sunday school teacher...
If only it were that easy . . .
Getting someone committed is very hard in our current system. And they’ll only keep the patient for a short time, till the drugs kick in. Then they’ll release him, because that’s the law.
And it won’t last. And it will start over. And you just hope nothing bad happens in the meantime.
According to the news, the father was forced out. The mojority of divorces are initiated by the woman, and in most cases without reasons such as violence, abandonment, etc. In my case, she initiated because she “was not feeling fulfilled”, and there wasn’t a damned thing I could do about it because “If one party wants a divorce, there will be a divorce”.
There’s plenty wrong about this case without busting on the absent dad who didn’t want to be absent.
As far as the kid losing his temper goes, John Hagee said,"I lost my temper one time and my father helped me to find it."
I told my son when he was in the rebellious stage of his life that I would beat him to death before I had people saying that I raised a criminal. He has done well in life since then.
They've demonized asylums for years in popular culture and movies, however, that is the answer for many of these children and adults.
What is your solution to the problem? Seriously, were you this lady, separated from a mentally ill husband, responsible for a mentally ill son and two other children, what would you do?
Please keep in mind that there is scant government help. We don’t institutionalize the mentally ill any more. Recall that she was told at the mental hospital that the only way he would get help was if he was charged with a crime.
That’s where we are in this society. There is no pre-emptive option. He has to hurt someone before the law can intervene.
What would you do? How would you handle it? To whom would you turn?
Have you walked in her shoes? Have you had a dangerously mentally ill family member?
My wife & I didn’t have children. We’re past 60. No regrets.
She’s a saint & I love her. Her brother finally left behind his drug dealing but he’s as broke as the Ten Commandments. His new wife keeps him straight. Same set of parents, vastly different outcomes.
It’s a crapshoot whether one brings forth a monster into this world. Just my humble opinion.
My daughter goes to church and there was a child, age 11, who threaten to bomb the church. I called the office and I have no clue as to what happen other than seeing the boy finish confirmation class a week later . After he was given the wafer and wine he ran out of the sanctuary into the bathroom to spit out.
Sounds like he needed an exorcism more than he needed confirmation.
I agree but what worries me is when that kid gets a little older. It won’t surprise me if I see him in the news.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.