Skip to comments.Five Guns for the Homestead – Part 1 – Rifles and Shotguns
Posted on 12/16/2012 2:11:22 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
There are, in my opinion, three kinds of people in the world with regards to guns. There are people that hate guns. They think that guns are inherently evil and that the world would be a better place if there were no guns at all. Then there are people that love guns. They collect guns, they clean guns, they read about guns, they go to gun shows, they just generally enjoy everything about guns. Some of these people, I have noticed, enjoy having guns more than they enjoy shooting guns; but hey, to each his own. The third kind of people are folks that see guns as being tools that are useful to perform specific tasks. These people have a chainsaw to cut firewood, they have garden tools to raise food with, they have hand tools to build things with, and they have guns to hunt with and to protect their families.
If you tend to be a no gun type person youre probably not reading this anyway, and if you are a gun lover you already know more about this stuff than I could every tell you; but if you are a guns-as-tools kind of person then this post is for you.
It is my belief that the average American homestead only needs five guns to handle any possible situation. So I am going to outline what my choices are, why I have selected these particular guns, and the circumstances under which each of these guns would be useful.
First on my list is a good Shotgun. The shotgun is like the multi-tool of the gun world. Depending on the ammo that you use the shotgun can be a small game hunter, a medium size (deer) game hunter, or a home defense weapon...
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2.)A Ruger 10/22 .22 LR rifle
3.) a semi automatic 12 gauge shotgun with an improved cylinder choke or better yet, an adjustable choke of some kind. Pumping the action takes too long. Improved cylinder is more forgiving when you have to make "cut shells" because you can't find slugs in the apocalypse.
4.) an AR-15
5.) a Glock, probably a Glock 19 even though I prefer .45 acp.
6.) a quality scoped bolt action high power rifle, preferably a Remington 700 in 30/06. Get a chamber adapter for it so you can also shoot .308 out of it... in the apocalypse.
If you can only own one shotgun, make it the Beretta Xtrema-2.
why not one of each gun for each member old enough to kill himself a b’ar?
1.) Remington 870 tactical, 12ga. 20 or 18.5” barrel, shoulder stock
2.) Savage scoped bolt rifle in .308
3.) Ruger 10/22 carbine
4.) Glock 19
5.) S@W 637 snub
Don’t forget night sights and holographic or red dot sights. Makes it much easier on the eyes.
Hmmm, I believe I am sufficiently there!
Scoped .308 bolt action
12 ga w/extended tube(pump action, though)
Ruger SR-1911 w/night sights and laser
Ruger LC-9 & Taurus 709
Even when the flag goes up, I believe that one or all 7.62/.308, 5.56mm/.223, 12 ga, 45 ACP, 9mm and 22LR ammo will be plentiful almost anywhere in the world.
Multiple firearms in same chambering is a good idea.
I buy more ammo than i shoot every month.
A brand new savage 12 gauge pump can be purchased at Walmart for $199.
1.) Remington 870 tactical, 12 ga. w/18.5" barrel
2.) Remington 770 .308 scoped
3.) Rock River LAR-15 Tactical w/EOTECH HWS
4.) HnK USP9
5.) Glock 17
Everyone in my family (two teenage sons, wife) can shoot and shoot well.
Watches around the clock, crossfire zones have been noted. Early warning system ready to be put in place.
Our home will be not safe for strangers, anytime day or night.
We do not recognize flags or uniforms. Enter at your own risk.
Of course, an AK or SKS can be added as a potential weapon to have around as 7.62X39 ammo and spare gun parts are available throughout the world.
On my hunting forum in TX these type questions come up allot. While I don’t get involved in the discussions much I have given it plenty of thought. Now I’m sure many will disagree with my fist statement but here it goes.
The one thing you won’t find on my list will be a semi-auto anything or double action revolvers due to reliability concerns.
1. Good quality single action 22 with a minimum of a 6 inch barrel. (My choice would be a Ruger single six.)
2. Good quality single action convertable in 45 LC/45 ACP with a minimum of a 6 inch barrel. (My choice would be the Ruger Blackhawk convertable in the above calibers.)
3. Good quality O/U or SxS shotgun in 12 ga.
4. Good quality bolt action in 308. (This rifle must have a Mauser claw action type extractor. Let me add I’m no fan of the 308 but in this case that would be my choice.)
5. Heres where I throw a wrench into the works. My fifth choice would be a good recurve bow. First I’m very comfortable with a recurve been shooting them for over 50 years, second there may be time when you don’t want everybody and their dog knowing where your at.
Thinking practically ...
(1) every family member is trained, has CCW permit, and carries.
(2) every family member employs the same caliber hand gun. for us that’s the .45 ACP
(3) every male family member carries a Sig P220, German-made
(4) wife (and daughter when she turns 21) = Glock 30 .45 ACP for smaller frame, although they can shoot the P220s just fine - “too big ...”
AR in .223
long guns in .22 LR
In principal I want the fewest number of calibers, and the most interchangeable parts, and most interchangeable firearms (don’t have to figure it out if you pick it up in the dark etc).
Familiarity and interchangeability are key.
the lists presented are good to describe what ought to be in the home armory, but to align to exnavy’s point — what will each member of your team have?
thanks for the post...
Since you are a vet, I recommend you go to Amazon.com and review Contact by ‘Max Velocity.’ It’s worth considering for your ‘prepper’ library. Author is a former British operator and now a US citizen.
It’s a good usable review of small unit, defense and SERE tactics in civilian terms. Even a good review on decision making and constructing/issuing clear, effective orders to non-military types. I think he missed the opportunity to emphasize the importance of (radio) communications, but otherwise pretty thorough.
I downloaded a Kindle version and got several tips and the frequent “ooops, gotta remember that too” moment.
$10 well-enough spent.
ED: “principal (sic) should be “principle”
We regret the error.
I have the Marlin, it’s sweet. For large bore I got a Saiga, which is basically a civvie AK100.
I’ll check it out, thank you.
How about a crossbow? They are available at sporting goods stores and “silent but deadly”. I am planning on getting one. My collection so far:
Remington 12 gauge
8 mm WW2 German mauser with Zeise scope
6.5 mm WW2 Caracano
I also have a black powder rifle and pistols which could certainly be used in a pinch. I am planning on trading the .40 Glock for a 9mm.
Crossbow would probably be a better choice for most, faster and far more accurate than I am with a recurve at the same distance. While I like old military firearms they would not even be on my list and especially in the calibers you describe. Several rifle makers offer good bolt action at a relativly cheap price. Remington, Savage and Ruger offer fair guality rifles in the less than 400 dollar range and the 308 is a very common caliber.
Why swap a .40 for 9 mm ?
World wide availability of ammo is one plausible answer.
Ping for future reference
That was my first guess.
If it’s for home protection then a shotgun is the only choice.
If you also need to put meat on the table then get a 22.
Anything more than that is a personal choice.
Just my opinion, of course, but a little variety of weapons with commonly available ammo and spare gun parts is preferable and can be used in any plausible situation for anything.
That would be a pallet, hopefully any would be thieves don’t have his address and a pallet jack.
Are those still being made I saw one the other day that looked brand new. I have seen 1000s that have been re blued restocked this one looked brand new even the bore looked pristine. I have searched the net and found nothing but if this was a re build it was the best I ever saw!
2.) Browning A-bolt .30-06 with BOSS
3.) M4gery .223/556
4.) Beretta 92FS 9mm
5.) Browning Buckmark .22
Keeping the list to five is difficult. I'd switch out the 9mm for a M1911 if the military had more .45 APC ammo than 9 mm. (Think picking ammo off the ground, same goes for the M4.) I might switch out the .30-06 with a M24gery in .300 Win Mag that I am going to build next year if Santa is nice to me, but it will be much heavier than the .03-06. Either is good for big game, but the .300 Win Mag can reach out and touch someone at 800+ meters. I'd really like a .22 rifle (have several) on the list for small game hunting, but the Buckmark would suffice, although it is illegal to hunt with a semi automatic pistol in PA. One of these days I will get around to putting a breach barrel on a Mossberg 500, that could potentially replace the 11-87, but I would lose all my choke tubes and versatility for hunting.
My 5 choices:
12 gauge pump or auto
scoped .308 bolt action rifle.
AR-15 in 5.56 mm
scoped .22 semi-automatic rifle
Defenive semiautomatic pistol in a caliber beginning with a 4.
Coincidentally, I have one, or more, of each.
As much ammo for each as you can afford to buy and store.
Bad times are coming. It’s no longer a question of IF but WHEN. You will need to protect what’s yours.
1) Pistol, with largest caliber that you will reliably carry on your person, this weapon is used to buy time to get to your 2) shotgun, pump or semi, or your 3) semi auto rifle. To round out your weapons are a 4) .22 rifle, for small game and a 5) bolt action scoped rifle for large game.
I would recommend that the two rifles be in the same caliber and the shot gun be 12 gauge.
Since there is a push to ban weapons as we speak, I would recommend not limiting yourself to 5. I would like a carbine that fires the chosen pistol ammo. I would also like a backup weapon for each of the 5 above.
The gray is the floor under the pallet, or at least that’s what it looks like to me.
My gun safe and everything in it fell out of my canoe and sunk like a steel safe to the bottom of the lake just yesterday afternoon. I had left my gps on the dock with the little lady so I have no idea where to even start looking.
bump to share with my sons
The only argument I have with this guy’s picks is the shotgun. IMO The Mossberg 500 is a better choice than the Remington. The survivability test by the USMC showed that the 870 failed before the Mossberg 500. If anybody can stress out a piece of equipment its a US Marine.
Add to that a Windham AR 15 and a Springfield Armory XDM .40 or .45 ACP and you are good to go.
One of the things to keep in mind in using a shotgun for home defense is this: at the ranges you will face in a typical home defense scenario, the pattern spread is something to consider at various ranges. Good video at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahiF5aT7MfE
Sweet! 12 or 18 long gun capacity?
I continue stocking up .45 ACP and .308 to keep my ammo needs simple.
one side is mine, the other side is my cousin's
it has a 30min 1200deg rating, we bought it last year from Central Tractor for $700.00
i hope someday to need one as big as yours... 8^)
i live in NY, so... no Class-III 8^(
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