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Newtown Shooting ~ RAW Video : 2nd Gunmen Being chased into Woods ?
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Posted on 12/16/2012 9:14:35 AM PST by bryan999

Anyone have any theories on this...? I'm traversing into conspiracy theory territory here and I'd like to avoid it, but why the hell did a bunch of cops run up into the woods??

And who is the fourth person that was in the "altercation" the day before? Supposedly this person (a teacher?) wasn't there on the day of the shooting and is being questioned.

Such a mess...


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1 posted on 12/16/2012 9:14:41 AM PST by bryan999
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To: bryan999

I got this emailed to me and not sure what to think.

Scary scary stuff peeps.. passing along something that could possibly help explain this and other things happening in the world around us and to we the regular every day people. Watch 2 videos.

Heard of any of this before?

http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2012/12/how-the-cia-trained-shooter-in-connecticut-shooting-tied-to-european-court-ruling-against-the-cia-2446674.html


2 posted on 12/16/2012 9:16:54 AM PST by edcoil (It is not over until I win.)
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To: bryan999

Police Walked A Man In Camo Pants And Dark Jacket Out Of Woods: Newtown

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovspEgeMXb4&NR=1&feature=endscreen


3 posted on 12/16/2012 9:22:58 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: bryan999

Original news reports mention search for a second gunman...

http://abcnews.go.com/US/gunmen-connecticut-elementary-school-shooting-dead/story?id=17973836#.UM4CBuQ0WS


4 posted on 12/16/2012 9:25:22 AM PST by Rennes Templar (Be positive: America is greater than Obama.)
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To: edcoil

The only think I can think of is the cops thought they saw someone running up into the woods, but found nobody... and a few minutes later all convened together at the top of the hill there... We’re just thinking we see someone pinned to the ground from the helicopter.

No raw footage of them coming out of the woods??

Maybe a kid ran up into the woods??

So annoying that this isn’t being explained.


5 posted on 12/16/2012 9:25:56 AM PST by bryan999
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To: Uncle Chip
Police Walked A Man In Camo Pants And Dark Jacket Out Of Woods: Newtown

He wasn't involved. He lived nearby and was gawking. After all, this isn't exactly out in the wilderness.
6 posted on 12/16/2012 9:27:05 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Uncle Chip

Haven’t seen that before! Man, this is madness! Who the hell was this guy sitting in the police car??? Just some freak hanging around up in the woods in cammo?? Seriously?

Someone needs to find and re-interview this dude with the mustache!


7 posted on 12/16/2012 9:29:19 AM PST by bryan999
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To: cripplecreek

Interesting. No reason to think it couldn’t be true. So how do you know this...?

This is a huge conspiracy theory debunker if true and will be enough to help me get back on with my life!


8 posted on 12/16/2012 9:31:45 AM PST by bryan999
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To: bryan999

Initial reports are often wrong. That’s not unusual.


9 posted on 12/16/2012 9:34:17 AM PST by Ted Grant
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To: cripplecreek
A post fron the above youtube article: "OK, If out of coincidence, he was legitimately just hiding in the woods at the same time, dressed identical to the shooter, in small woodland between a residential development and an elementary school, on a Friday AM, while 20 children were shot, his right to privacy is non-existent. "Petition and demand the local police disclose this man’s identity, period! We have the right to know and many people including parents, and CBS witnessed this man handcuffed, and in police custody." I agree. So who is this guy?
10 posted on 12/16/2012 9:35:28 AM PST by bryan999
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To: bryan999

Here’s the police scanner archive (2hrs)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auVVKIZr1Cs


11 posted on 12/16/2012 9:35:57 AM PST by libertarian27 (Check my profile page for the FReeper Online Cookbook 2011)
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To: cripplecreek
It's surrounded by woods. Look at the terrain.

First he was cutting logs in the woods. Sure everybody wears camo gear in the woods in the fall because they want to be mistaken for a deer and shot.

Now he is a gawker. If I gawk at my local school I get arrested. This guy who lives close by didn't know that???

He ran from the police.

Do we have his name or address or something official or just another floating opinion.

12 posted on 12/16/2012 9:39:04 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: bryan999

1:34:15 Reporting a purple van, two occupants, wearing possible skimasks, may be involved in this incident..

http://youtu.be/auVVKIZr1Cs


13 posted on 12/16/2012 9:39:13 AM PST by wolficatZ (Hey blue states....Got Food?)
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To: bryan999

There is aerial video of the takedown and arrest as he runs into the woods and police scanner audio.

What is a guy doing gawking around an elementary school after 100 shots have been fired and then running from the police.


14 posted on 12/16/2012 9:43:45 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: wolficatZ

“they’re coming at me!” “We got ‘em!” “got em proned out” http://youtu.be/S59IXI9g6VE


15 posted on 12/16/2012 9:45:35 AM PST by wolficatZ (Hey blue states....Got Food?)
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To: libertarian27

Yeah, heard a lot of that... and I also saw video this which was posted here and on the weird RIP Facebook page someone made for the teacher who was shot (supposedly on the 10th):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=j_fI0hm1dqY

Incidentally, this guy posts a screenshot of the Adam Lanza’s Facebook page before it was taken down and the pic looks nothing like what we’re seeing on Drudge right now. What the hell?? So does that disqualify this Idahopicker guy if fake? Or maybe it is, in fact, Lanza? (fast forward to about 4:15 in the video). We need some real answers... this is ridiculous.

Idahopicker should get on FR to explain this shyte.


16 posted on 12/16/2012 9:45:43 AM PST by bryan999
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To: bryan999
Here's a view from above. What do you think the most likely explanation is? A conspiracy to hide another shooter for some reason or a guy wandered out to see what was going on?

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BTW notice Timothy Treadwell Memorial park. Treadwell was the moron who went to Alaska to live with the bears and got eaten.
17 posted on 12/16/2012 9:47:18 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Uncle Chip
It's surrounded by woods. Look at the terrain.

I have, its a heavily populated suburban area that might be considered rural to someone living in Manhattan. There are probably more people living within 500 yards of that school than the entire 2000 living in my township.
18 posted on 12/16/2012 9:54:59 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

It’s perfectly reasonable to assume that some guy walked into the woods from the area behind the woods to check things out... I guess. Kinda stupid, considering a mass shooting was underway, but possible I suppose.

But who is he? Why hasn’t that fact been established more clearly? It’s pretty messed up that it’s not being told so that this stupid 2nd gunman conspiracy theory can be put to rest...


19 posted on 12/16/2012 9:55:21 AM PST by bryan999
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To: bryan999

“behind the school” I should say.


20 posted on 12/16/2012 9:56:54 AM PST by bryan999
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To: bryan999

My 2nd thought on this was could it have been a hunter?


21 posted on 12/16/2012 9:57:18 AM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: bryan999

The tie-in to the Libor scandal (if true) is really really creepy.


22 posted on 12/16/2012 9:59:03 AM PST by ILS21R (Everything is a conspiracy. No? You're living in one.)
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To: bryan999
from the same source......"Earth governments, especially the Government of the United States, are in communication or cooperation with extraterrestrials despite public claims to the contrary. Some of these theories claim that the government is explicitly allowing alien abduction"
23 posted on 12/16/2012 10:01:04 AM PST by wesagain (The God (Elohim) of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the One True GOD.)
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To: bryan999; cripplecreek; bgill; Jet Jaguar
"OK, If out of coincidence, he was legitimately just hiding in the woods at the same time, dressed identical to the shooter, in small woodland between a residential development and an elementary school, on a Friday AM, while 20 children were shot, his right to privacy is non-existent. "Petition and demand the local police disclose this man’s identity, period! We have the right to know and many people including parents, and CBS witnessed this man handcuffed, and in police custody." I agree. So who is this guy?

Exactly -- that is not an unfair question: So who is this guy?

24 posted on 12/16/2012 10:04:38 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: bryan999

It’s perfectly reasonable to assume that some guy walked into the woods from the area behind the woods to check things out... I guess. Kinda stupid, considering a mass shooting was underway, but possible I suppose.

But who is he? Why hasn’t that fact been established more clearly? It’s pretty messed up that it’s not being told so that this stupid 2nd gunman conspiracy theory can be put to rest...


Good points.

More and more...I get leery of the ones attacking people by calling them “Conspiracy Theorists” than the actual Conspiracy Theorists themselves.

This can easily be put to rest by the authorities....but it has not. And, why not? Easy questions to answer


25 posted on 12/16/2012 10:04:56 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (Seems that the ones who understand little about the economy are economists)
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To: bryan999
Police ran into the woods because they didn't have a grassy knoll nearby.

Face it, the police are going to check out all possibilities to secure a situation like this.

26 posted on 12/16/2012 10:06:17 AM PST by pfflier
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To: cripplecreek
BTW notice Timothy Treadwell Memorial park. Treadwell was the moron who went to Alaska to live with the bears and got eaten.

Different guy. From a Newtown site: "This popular Sandy Hook park is named after Timothy B. Treadwell, who served as first selectman of Newtown between 1968 and 1972."

27 posted on 12/16/2012 10:14:55 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: pfflier

I think some guy just walked out his back door to gawk and police had to check him out. After all, this isn’t exactly a wilderness area.

Hell I do the same if there’s a fire truck in town.


28 posted on 12/16/2012 10:15:25 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: edcoil

You have a loner, who is into Goth which promotes death and torture among other very dark topics, a single parent, and more than likely on psychotropic drugs prescribed by a psychiatrist and there is your recipe for this disaster.


29 posted on 12/16/2012 10:15:54 AM PST by doc
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To: cripplecreek

Well that guy needs to grow a set and prevent this from getting worse by coming forward and admitting that he was the guy in the woods and that’s all he was doing - gawking. I mean, this is just beyond ridiculous.


30 posted on 12/16/2012 10:21:25 AM PST by bryan999
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To: edcoil

Not surprise. I heard about this MLK (Whatever) Ultra and the connection to the CIA. I myself not sure what to think of but I would not be shocked. The media and government are powerful together. Why do you think Advertisers spend a lot of money on their ads? I first heard about the CIA and this Ultra when Michael Jackson “died”.

The Sandy shooting is so dam mixed up with stories here and there no one really knows. This second shooter reminds me of other incidents:

Oklahoma Bombing: On CNN (LIVE) which I saw it - a firefighter stated that he had witness seeing bombs strapped against the pillars inside the building. Never heard of story again nor the firefighter.

Okalhoma Bombing: John Doe - After numerous witness claim they saw him with Timothy our Government says “Nah” “You think you saw him” no more on that.

Yes I believe our government is sooo evil to even kill children to acheive their goals and don’t forget they also got their useful idiots to help them.

So no I would not be surprised if there was. Since this school had place new security hmmm where are the CAMERAS?


31 posted on 12/16/2012 10:25:56 AM PST by Patriot Babe
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You totalitarian clown. Its none of your damn business who a private citizen is. Now you’re sounding like the idiots who spent all the time harassing the citizens of Shanksville PA for “lying” about flt 93.


32 posted on 12/16/2012 10:26:37 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

Hey man, I’m just trying NOT to fall into conspiracy theory land. Mr. Private Citizen Creep in the woods should be lucky he wasn’t shot dead.

I’m not going to pretend I know the truth. Ok?

Thank you for playing, cripplecreek.


33 posted on 12/16/2012 10:32:39 AM PST by bryan999
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To: bryan999

I had heard that the guy was chopping firewood in the woods out there. I can’t see any of the videos though...for some reason, they won’t load for me.


34 posted on 12/16/2012 10:33:49 AM PST by ponygirl (Be Breitbart.)
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To: cripplecreek

“Its none of your damn business who a private citizen is”

Someone dressed in camo pants and a black jacket handcuffed on the ground at the scene where the mass slaughter of children has just occurred is “none of your damn business”?

You serious bo?

Wow, you are.

Yours is scary kind of stupid.


35 posted on 12/16/2012 10:39:49 AM PST by wolficatZ (Hey blue states....Got Food?)
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To: bryan999
and will be enough to help me get back on with my life!

Good luck with that. This event is likely one where the rules of the game get changed.

As much as one would like accept that it was a crazed psycho and move on, it seems there are just too many loose ends and false information to justify that position for now.

A few for ponder:

School adviser: Gunman a loner who felt no pain

If he had no emotions, then what is the real reason he did this?

Report: Conn. Gunman Had an ‘Altercation’ With School Staff the Day Before Massacre

Where is the followup on this? We were told there were four witnesses to this altercation, three died but the fourth didn't go to work that day. This needs to be verified and details of the altercation provided. Maybe they're out there. If so, please direct me to them.

The medical examiner spoke with reporters to confirm that all the victims died of multiple gunshot wounds. "I believe everybody was hit more than once," he told reporters. He also said he believed that the rifle was the primary weapon Lanza used.

Lanza was found with only pistols by his side and the rifle was found in the trunk of the car. WTH? Could another shooter have drop it in the trunk as he left the scene? No competent medical examiner would mistake a pistol wound for a rifle wound, IMO. And it wouldn't be hard to determine if the rifle had been fired that morning.

There were reports of a vehicle leaving the scene with a blown out rear window and also a report of a van. Where are the followups to these reports?

Many questions are still unanswered and some of the few provided, left dangling, while maintaining a holding pattern by the MSM. Is the clock being ran out while momentum builds to act on limiting the second amendment?

What are the odds of something like this happening right after Obama's reselection? Astronomical? Could this be fast and furious, "The Next Level?"

Fast and Furious - we don't know the meaning, as we're about to see in the coming days/weeks/months.

36 posted on 12/16/2012 10:44:19 AM PST by Errant
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To: wolficatZ

Yeah I’m funny that way.

Imagine being sick of a bunch of pathetic morons so desperate to feed their sick need for drama in their lives.


37 posted on 12/16/2012 10:48:52 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Errant; All

Read one tidbit on the 4th person. (possibly) The principal’s secretary supposedly called in sick that day. She (secretary) said it was the first time she’d done that. ?

Could she be the 4th?


38 posted on 12/16/2012 11:56:00 AM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline, (it's back). 2008, the Decline of America)
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To: Errant

It is very interesting that two official statements have stated that “he shot with the rifle” and “the rifle was found in the car”. Can’t be both.


39 posted on 12/16/2012 11:58:02 AM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline, (it's back). 2008, the Decline of America)
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To: Errant

I can’t help but notice that you are onto something. All wounds were by rifle but the rifle was found in the car. This makesno sense from the Law Enforcement standpoint. Where was the shooter when he killed himself? News reports he shot himself when police arrived. Did he go to the vehicle first? What did he shoot himself with?

I have been looking for the previous incident but can’t find anything. Headlines mention the previous incident but then never explain what that was. This is not something usually withheld since the suspect is dead. There has to be more to this. My 30 yrs. in the business tells me something isn’t right. My guess is the gov’t. being involved.


40 posted on 12/16/2012 12:16:21 PM PST by DrDude (Governor of the 57th State)
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To: DrDude; The Cajun; machogirl
Currently it's just not adding up, is it?!
41 posted on 12/16/2012 12:49:22 PM PST by Errant
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To: machogirl
She (secretary) said it was the first time she’d done that. ?

What are the odds, and why haven't we heard more about what occurred during this altercation? Is she the only source that an altercation actually did occur on the previous day?

Much remains a mystery and why?

42 posted on 12/16/2012 12:53:39 PM PST by Errant
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To: bryan999

It’s all BS. Release a Shepard into those woods and be done with it.


43 posted on 12/16/2012 12:53:56 PM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: Errant
If truth was a well, it's pretty poisoned right now.
MSM stupidity, cops not coming forth with details, agenda driven leftist trash, etc, etc.
This is being botched up so bad that the real truth may never come out or may be undecipherable to the general public.
Who knows, that may be the intent.
44 posted on 12/16/2012 1:02:34 PM PST by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: The Cajun
Agreed. It's so messed up now, it couldn't have been by accident.

And it seems all of the new revelations are coming from the news agencies in bed with this administration.

45 posted on 12/16/2012 1:09:45 PM PST by Errant
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To: Patriot Babe

Remember the Russians did this in the book Red Storm Rising.


46 posted on 12/16/2012 1:34:59 PM PST by edcoil (It is not over until I win.)
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To: bryan999
Anyone have any theories on this...?

Yeah, I do. This was reported the very day of the shooting. The police escorted the guy in front of the cameras and he was shouting that he wasn't the killer.

For Pete's sake. They were rounding up anyone they could find and this poor schmuck happened to be within range. What's the possible conspiracy here?

47 posted on 12/16/2012 4:26:13 PM PST by BfloGuy (Workers and consumers are, of course, identical.)
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To: Errant

Nope, and the bit about his mom “hoarding food” (MSM word choice) instead of “storing food” is meant to be a slur. There is nothing wrong at all, and I consider it to be a good practice for emergencies of any kind (esp. in this economy), to have at least a month or two of food stored. Good Lord, the Govt. itself says that’s part of preparing for an emergency.


48 posted on 12/16/2012 6:27:14 PM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline, (it's back). 2008, the Decline of America)
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To: machogirl
Exactly! And even more than two months worth of food if possible. I don't see how our economy can possibly improve with communists running our government.

I think it's all downhill from here. Not sure where bottom is but a long ways from where we're at now, IMO.

49 posted on 12/16/2012 6:58:33 PM PST by Errant
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To: BfloGuy

The second shooter is the pretty much the crux of the conspiracy theory, so I’d think it would be wise move for the cops to come forward and explain that they were, indeed, chasing after someone in the woods... second shooter or not, I think an answer is warranted here. You know, to prevent any more LIES from spreading across the Internet. They have an investigation to run after all.

So now it’s a scared individual running from the school into the woods...? I thought it was a guy chopping wood up there.

Several cops ran into the woods and up that hill as if they were chasing a positively ID’d perpetrator.

And what was the kid talking about? Someone in the press needs to call that kid’s parents and get a straight story here!


50 posted on 12/16/2012 8:10:48 PM PST by bryan999
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