Mass Shootings And The New Generation Of Young American Zombies

JoeClarke.Net | 12/17/2012 | JoeClarke.Net

[annieokie]

The problem is there will always be those anti-social kids who won't do those things with other kids....if 99.99999% of all kids are ok, it still takes just that one loose cannon to create a tragedy like this.""""".....

Yes, that is true, one loose cannon. Yet that one loose cannon has always been in Society. Something else is happening and a growing trend.

When there is an anti social kid...it is the School that recognizes this and informs the parents to put them on some DRUG...if that one don't work, give them another.

Anti social does not mean anything, many people "loaners" can be classified as anti social, when they are not. They just mind their own business, not gossipers, or large parties, etc.

Many would say "What's wrong with them", truth is NOTHING, they are just not shallow people and want to be left alone, but society can provoke these people until they get mad and then society can say "SEE, we told you something was wrong"

[ClearCase_guy]

the myriad of American cultures which are not quite melding as diversity engineers predicted.

Folks used to talk about a "melting pot" analogy. People came from all over the world -- but when they came here, they could be Americans. Sure, some brought Polka music, some brought Pizza, and some brought matzoh balls. But it all came together and added to what it meant to be American. And everyone looked up to the Constitution, and George Washington, and everyone understood that in December, you had a good chance of hearing people say "Merry Christmas!"

Now it's a Salad Bowl. Nothing melts together. This group hates that group -- always has. People get offended -- don't say anything that might offend them! It goes on and on. Being American means almost nothing. We're just a big old mean place and lots of tribes reside here, and the tribal leaders like to tell everyone why the other tribes are bad people.

The push for Diversity and Tolerance is driving this country apart. As it was intended to do.

[BreezyDog]

Good stuff ping...

[Salamander]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhO0Pul_FcE

These drugs are poison.

Who would take *anything* that clearly states “We are not sure how these drugs work but...” on the ads?

[shhrubbery!]

Anti social does not mean anything, many people "loaners" can be classified as anti social, when they are not. They just mind their own business, not gossipers, or large parties, etc.

Exactly right.

I would guess about 75% of FReepers, and 90% of Daily Kos posters, are "loner" types.

Does that mean FReepers pose a threat of shooting up a classroom, or a theater, or a mall? Heck no.

Now I would be a bit more worried about Daily Kos posters doing such a thing; but even with them, I think the likelihood is infinitesimally small.

OWS people, otoh, are a definite concern. As far as violence goes, we've already seen proof that a segment of OWS-ers are vandals and rapists, at a minimum. But then, OWS types might not be typical loners. (Not that I've ever met an OWS-er, but my suspicion is they're loud, gregarious types, like Abbie Hoffman.)

[Mears]

bfl

[3catsanadog]

There's a fairly new book out called "Quiet" I've been meaning to read. It's about how we have turned into such a social society and, like you said, introverted, shy and others have been deemed to have a problem. This social society to me has become a noisy society. Everyone talks over everyone else and interrupts each other. If you don't really enjoy socializing every free minute, people think you aren't friendly.

I was called shy as a child. I pushed myself to become extroverted which was uncomfortable for me and caused me much stress and I've always felt clumsy socially.

[MtnMan101]

GEE I WONDER WHY

[jaydee770]

Yet that one loose cannon has always been in Society. Something else is happening and a growing trend.

I think the difference is we used to institutionalize violent psychos based on evaluation(s) by competent professionals. Now (typically), they can only be involuntarily committed (if the state has such a law) if a cop, doc or judge deems them an immediate danger to themselves or others - and even then - only until they are mentally stabilized. Then they can check themselves out back on the streets in most cases.

The other alternative is to wait until they snap and commit a crime. If ("if") they are convicted, they go to prison and *might* get some treatment.

Bottom line: In a rush to be more compassionate, caring and to avoid hurting their feelings, through lib-progressive, touchy-feely, politically correct policies & legislation, we've basically inflicted unknown numbers (I don't know if they are even tracked anymore) of potential lunatic time-bombs upon society.

I'm not saying everyone with mental health issues should be institutionalized, but I am saying that competent professionals should have that option, subject to some due process. However, if a competent professional deems someone dangerous and the family, friend, or other person (professional, Cop , Judge, *whoever*) argues against it and the time-bomb goes off -- then all those who argued against institutionalizing the lunatic should be held responsible. Fully. As if they committed whatever atrocity themselves -- which I believe they did via proxy (the lunatic).

Just my opinion.

[annieokie]

I would guess about 75% of FReepers, and 90% of Daily Kos posters, are "loner" types."""".....

You got my point Superbly. Thanks

We pose no threat although I have been tempted a few times. LOL

Such as when a relative vacationed at my house to long, or a neighbor who wanted to coffee cloche everyday, (go home and find something to do, leave me alone).grrrrrrr.

There is a definite problem with the Insane Left, DUer's, OWer's, etc. Mentally unstable for sure.

[annieokie]

I must get that book. You have expanded well on what I was trying to get at.

""""If you don't really enjoy socializing every free minute, people think you aren't friendly.""""

So True, and I like quiet. Mainly because I grew up with a mother that was a non stop talker, same thing over and over. You could not get a word in edgewise, but then she asked me why I didn't talk to her. I said WHAT? WHEN can I? With that she went on talking like I never said anything. lol

One day I stopped her and said "Mother, how is it you can think of so many things to say, and what possesses you to say it after you think of it, how does your mind work?"

She said "Some things just have to be said", I give up so did my dad. Problem was she was really just insecure as was all her siblings, we just dealt with it.

Advice to you....be comfortable with who you are. I am, all the others don't care. They really just want you to be as miserable as they are, or as I call them GARBAGE Collectors (gossipers). lol

[annieokie]

There is some major problems with all this. Not sure what a good solution would be, but if a parent feels their child needs help and backed up by some professional, there definitely needs to be some help available to them.

If the child is of age, and the parents suspect something, THEY should be able to go before a Judge and seek help.

Sometimes this is not the easy answer either, some parents may just want to get rid of their child and have them declared insane when they are not.

A psychologist can themselves make a person CRAZY. I'm not one, but I guarantee you that I can, with many questions and continuous suggestions, I too can DRIVE someone crazy and ready for the loonie bin. Only I would know the truth of what happened, and act innocent and protected by my Degree. Psychology 101, are you angry now? (not you)

Year ago, I read some of a psychology college book. My gosh, I thought at the time they have to be CRAZY themselves to believe all they are studying and then impose it on the public. WHAT POWER and control they have...and that is SCARY.

[Eye of Unk]

I think there is a lot more in common than anyone wishes to discuss between Lanza and the colorado shooter.

[riri]

I am starting to think things that five years ago I would have rolled my eyes and thought "looneytune".

But, yes, it seems some people can't handle the thought that their entire reality is...a...sham?

It's really not that mind blowing once you get used to the idea.