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GUN CRIME SOARS IN ENGLAND WHERE GUNS ARE BANNED
TOWNHALL ^ | December 11, 2012 | Katie Pavlich

Posted on 12/17/2012 9:52:40 AM PST by SaveOurRepublicFromTyranny

Figures showed the number of crimes involving handguns had more than doubled since the post-Dunblane massacre ban on the weapons, from 2,636 in 1997-1998 to 5,871...

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TOPICS: Government; Politics; Reference; Society
KEYWORDS: 2012; banglist; guncontrol; guncontrolstatistics; gunrights; sandyhookgundefense; secondamendment; statistics; uk

1 posted on 12/17/2012 9:52:50 AM PST by SaveOurRepublicFromTyranny
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To: SaveOurRepublicFromTyranny

My God, how is that possible???


2 posted on 12/17/2012 9:59:33 AM PST by cotton1706
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To: SaveOurRepublicFromTyranny

Didn’t they ban guns and CCW in Chicago, too?


3 posted on 12/17/2012 9:59:33 AM PST by hamboy (Psalm 109:8: Let his days be few; and let another take his office.)
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To: SaveOurRepublicFromTyranny
Feynman explains how to explain things, like how gun control laws don't solve the problem of gun violins.
4 posted on 12/17/2012 10:00:07 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

http://www.hulu.com/watch/2364


5 posted on 12/17/2012 10:02:02 AM PST by Paladin2
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6 posted on 12/17/2012 10:05:53 AM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: SaveOurRepublicFromTyranny
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Any time a firearms-related thread is created on FreeRepublic, please be sure to add the "banglist" keyword to it so that interested FReepers don't miss it. Just a suggestion.

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7 posted on 12/17/2012 10:07:21 AM PST by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: cotton1706

sick fo this crap, the problems we have is how so called parents are not raising their kids wiht morals, respect, how they have no time for their kids after work today and how these so called parents want to live their own life whilst ignoring their first job is to be a parent.

How about sitting down after cooking dunner, talking to each other, teach the kid how to cook, then clean up after, teach them morals and respect instead of letting shrinks raise their kids on drugs and then telling kids it;’s alright to be different and not mainstream.

They report the kid had mental problems, er how about the kid was raised with hardly ever spending time with parents, thus the kid grows up doing what he wants .

Once in the real world the kid can;t understand problems, down falls, he;s not equal anymore, the world doesn;t want the kid because of how he is now and how he was told he;s equal and it;s OK to be strange and different.

Of course he did not want to be told what to do at his age because he had no respect for mother and when he gets old enough for the real world he sits around.
Mother wants him in college but she doesn;t understand it;s too late, she should ave been there for him when he was growing up, instead of her job, her own private life, eating out and drinking and then getting baby sitters

You know who you are , yes you medai folks out there trolling , you hardly ever spend time with your kids ecause your own life is more important then spending time with the kids.
Get a nanny, get a cleaner, get a dog walker, have a problem you take him to see shrinks and the he goes on drugs and then you will wonder why your own kids are totally screw ups.

You left wing trolls wanted the destruction of the family and look at what we have a black community in crisis, whites with all about me kids

we are now reaping what the lazy all about them parents have given us.


8 posted on 12/17/2012 10:08:12 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: manc

I hope you know that I was being sarcastic and am not a left-wing troll, haha.

I’ve told my friend to stop buying the zombie-killing games for her kids. She doesn’t listen.


9 posted on 12/17/2012 10:12:27 AM PST by cotton1706
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To: SaveOurRepublicFromTyranny

“Our ban is a perfectly legitimate response to the tragedy of gun violence. We Socialists cannot be blamed just because some people are rude enough to disobey our laws.” :)


10 posted on 12/17/2012 10:15:08 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: manc

You would be wrong the mother tried for years to get mental health care for her son......
Well at least you have stopped blaming guns and now blame the parents.
How about the shooter was 20 years old he was NOT a kid, he and he alone is responsible for the murders.


11 posted on 12/17/2012 10:16:02 AM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: SaveOurRepublicFromTyranny

Don’t bother trying to confront emoting Democrats with the facts. They’ll just call you a racist, or murder-enabler, or something.


12 posted on 12/17/2012 10:19:55 AM PST by Trod Upon (Civilian disarmament is the precursor to democide.)
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To: SaveOurRepublicFromTyranny

My only question about these numbers is, do the “additional” gun crimes include simple possession charges? If those are being counted in these figures, than the numbers are a bit misleading.


13 posted on 12/17/2012 10:20:14 AM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: cotton1706

no not directed at you LOL.

Most of us conservatives have bene saying for years how this new parenting, lack of respect, no morals, parents more involved in their own personal life instead of giving much of that up and being with their kids

Guns have bene around for hundreds of years, most of these killing in the last 20 years or so.

When did the elft start to attack the traditional family, when did it become common for parents to now have more time for themselves and jobs than their own kids, when did it happen the left started to prommote divorce.

for 40 years the left have been destroying the traditional family and this is what we get.

Course like I said many parents dodn;t spend much with their kids.

Gretchen Carlson came out with some whoppers over the last few days.

This morning she said what a great mother she told the BABYSITTER to watch him carefully, how about her not going out and staying with her kid.

The other day she said before this after na interview with an actor”oh great that movie sounds good , now I will know what to do on Christmas afternoon with the kdis.”

What to do, she gets a day off and she has just figured that she will take the kids on Christmas day to a movie.
How about waking up with them, telling them what Christmans is about, how about playing with them and their presents, how about cooking a nice meal and then cleaning up.

Yes we all don;t like it but we do it and it;s hardly spending time with the kdis on your day off at a movie where you can;t talk to them or play with them.

Remember sitting down for dinner every day, talking to each other?
Then cooking and teaching the kids how to cook, then cleaning up thus making the kids clean up and thus learning work.
Instead of the dog walker how about the kids take the dog for a walk.

The left wanted parents to work, promote divorce not a man about as a woman does not need a man to the left.

I know the media will never mention about the real problems because they are the problem.
How many have nanies, day care , come home form work working for that 3,500 sq ft home and Audi instead of s smaller house and a camry?
How many are then too tired to be with the kids or talk to them on what they were taught.

When a child has not much parental guidence then the kid grows up thinking they can do anything they want.
Once they get in the real world they hate to be told what to do and then never respect those around them.

How many times ave you heard a parent in front of their child say”hey give me that packet over there” How about Excuse me, could I have that packet please and then tell the kids manners are important.

I have 3 kids , oldest is 15 and see their friends grow up with no one helping them for the real world.
Boys being told it;s OK for them to wear lipstick, dress like a girl etc, no it;s not normal and drugs will not help them


14 posted on 12/17/2012 10:31:29 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: SaveOurRepublicFromTyranny

There is NO USE in trying to reason with these people. No logical arguments will be accepted and therefore they should not be offered. The response on our part should be a simple NO to anything put forward. NO!

If this fails to work then we have but one option. If people try to take away my God given rights, then I will take away theirs. Speak against my right to own an infantry worthy rifle without registering it with any entity and I will take away your ability to speak forever! That IS the compromise. Not one step given away.

The answer to ALL of this handwringing is simply, NO!


15 posted on 12/17/2012 10:33:38 AM PST by The Toll
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To: SaveOurRepublicFromTyranny

bttt


16 posted on 12/17/2012 10:36:09 AM PST by bmwcyle (We have gone over the cliff and we are about to hit the bottom)
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To: svcw

who the hell is blaming guns?

of course it;s the parents fault just as it is if a kid grows up to be a great inventor etc.

This mother sought mental help at what age?
ee the media did nto tell you that part.
She was working yes, he was homeschooled too for some of his age, yes.

Like so many kids today which I see and trust me I see many so not sure how many you talk to in a day or how many kids do you have in the lower ages?

I;ve had kids tell me all the time that their parents let them do anything because they;re too tired from work.
I’ve had many kids tell me that they wish I coudl be their father as either they do not have one or their father is not about much or their mother.

Mental illness, if the woman had been there for her son since he coudl walk then she woudl nto have been having a killer grow up.

The media wants to blame guns and mental illness, instead of saying what the root cause is because pointing out how many parents are today upsets them because they are those parents or never speak ill of the dead.

I’ve met so many kids who are classed as mental illness and yet all of them have said they wish they had a mother and a father, or wish their parents were around growing up

Buying the latest I-pad, TV, video game or what the kid wants is not live, teaching them morals, respect, getting them prepped for the real world, being there for them and talking to them is love.

Love and time is what is missing.

Like I said the elft wanted the destruction of the traditional family, promote divorce, no man needed, get the woman out to work instead of raising their kids and this is what we see.
kids growing up thinking they can do anything they want.

Some can fall for the media crap because th emedia are so engrossed in their jobs and making a name for themselves and having a personal life.

Well when you have kids going out, eating out all the time with others etc should be given up, parenting is number one now


17 posted on 12/17/2012 10:41:05 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: SaveOurRepublicFromTyranny

Look at what happened in Australia when they took away gun ownership —— the crime rate went through the roof. And they even asked for the help of the U.S. government to HIDE THE FACT !!!!

It all speaks for itself.


18 posted on 12/17/2012 11:08:43 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: Paladin2
Feynman explains how to explain things, like how gun control laws don't solve the problem of gun violins.

gun violins?


19 posted on 12/17/2012 11:14:03 AM PST by mbarker12474 (If thine enemy offend thee, give his childe a drum.)
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To: manc

http://gawker.com/5968818/i-am-adam-lanzas-mother
Her pleas are all over the internet, she could not get help.
Be angry if you wish, I really don’t care.
The shooter was not a child, he made his own choices and his choice this time was to murder as many people as possible.


20 posted on 12/17/2012 11:41:29 AM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: svcw

even that link it soumds she did a crap job of raising her kid, you cannot tell me what pants to wear

If she had been there from the day he was born and brought up right ten he would not have been the person today.

Like I said I talk to these kids eevry day, I see some of their lazy parents, I see how kids want a mother anda father, do you?

You keep talking about his later life how about when aged 4 aged 7 aged 10, that is when he makes himself.

Giving in to a kids demands and being friends with tem is not the solution either.


21 posted on 12/17/2012 11:50:36 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: svcw

I am angry , self responsibility seems a thing of the past, too many wishy washy people who want to look at excuses or follow the media or act and be upset more than the next person.

Those who are upset about being called out about how they are parents and spending time in their own lives , going out, working etc would be upset wiht what I have said.

I grew up in foster homes and was off the wall and if it were not for the military then I;d be in prison today.

get back to how parents were, raise the kid wiht morals, yep you go to give up some of your life when being a parent.
My wife and I have gone out twice this year, all our time goes to the kids,.

We have put off our lives untl they are older enough, we;ll be sitting down for dinner as we always do, talk over dinner, kids help to clean up etc.

Not come home, throw shoes off, say we’;re tired, put a TV in their own room to give us peace and not sit down for at least most of the night being with them, playing games, talking, going over issues.


22 posted on 12/17/2012 11:55:34 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: mbarker12474

Ma is that you?


23 posted on 12/17/2012 12:09:44 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: mbarker12474

“nevermind....”


24 posted on 12/17/2012 12:15:39 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: svcw

did well for yourself as i did even with violent abuse bla bla time after time and foster homes.
You made it to a good family during your goring up days, well done, happy it worked out for you and your siblings

Fact is that this kid was not raised right just like so many kids today.
My kids are all home now and we have just been talking about this and the oldest just said how many kids talk about the lack of responsibility , one just said today he can do anything he wants.

Once that kid gets to 13 or 15 he’s already on the way to becoming an adult and how he will he be.

Don;t get me wrong, there are so many adults today who think the world owes them, care more about their jobs and careers than their own kids, care more about dining out wiht friends or going drinking than being with their kids


26 posted on 12/17/2012 1:58:32 PM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: SaveOurRepublicFromTyranny

To argue with my gun control friends, I need better stats. Crime going up or down is not as potent as a direct comparison of legal or illegal. I do like the Washington, D.C. Stats, where the concealed carry coun ties have less crime.


27 posted on 12/17/2012 2:09:05 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: SaveOurRepublicFromTyranny

bttt


28 posted on 12/17/2012 6:38:11 PM PST by Luigi Vasellini (End the political class.......TERM LIMITS NOW!!!!!!!!!!)
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