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Liberals Coming After Our Guns
Flopping Aces ^ | 12-17-12 | Curt

Posted on 12/17/2012 3:21:02 PM PST by Starman417

The liberals are screaming for more gun control. But explain to me why in a state with one of the most stringent gun control laws in the nation the Sandy Hook massacre still happened?

Connecticut has strong gun laws that help combat the illegal gun market, prevent the sale of most guns without background checks and reduce risks to children, according to the Brady Campaign. In the organization’s 2009 state scorecards released for all 50 states, Connecticut earned 53 points out of a total of 100 and has the nation’s fourth strongest gun laws.

“Connecticut has done more than most states to combat illegal guns and has worked to keep guns out of the hands of dangerous people. In fact, Connecticut has a one-of-a-kind law that allows a judge to remove guns from people who have been determined to be a threat to themselves or others,” said Ron Pinciaro, President of CT Against Gun Violence.

Connecticut bans assault weapons, judges can remove guns from those who constitute a threat, they earn high marks from gun control advocates for everything from dealer regulation to backgrounds checks and they earn the maximum score for guns in public places.

But still a crazy nut got some guns. How? By stealing them. This is how criminals and nutcases get guns, either stealing the guns themselves or buying stolen guns on the street.

So here’s the challenge for gun control advocates: explain why you failed the people of Newtown. You cited Connecticut as a national example. You said its laws “reduce risks to children.” You gave no state a higher rating for keeping guns out of public places — like schools.

And a criminally insane man stole legally-owned guns (owned under Connecticut’s regime) after being denied their legal purchase, broke in through a window, and killed children and adults — adults who were not armed to shoot back, and so died unable to save the children who also died.

You want this one event to be a national test? Fine. Why are there 20 children dead when the state of Connecticut did what you said they should to keep their people safe?

The restrictive gun control laws were supposed to save those kids....but they didn't. A teacher with a gun could of but since only criminals can have guns in Connecticut that didn't happen.

So let's have that "conversation"

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TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: 2012; 2ndamendment; banglist; constitution; democrats; gun; guncontrol; gunfreezone; gunlaws; liberals; newtown; progressives; sandyhook; secondamendment; youwillnotdisarmus

1 posted on 12/17/2012 3:21:09 PM PST by Starman417
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To: Starman417

Hooray for the excerpted FlappyAsses blog!


2 posted on 12/17/2012 3:28:10 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: Starman417
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3 posted on 12/17/2012 3:31:43 PM PST by Dick Bachert (An ARMED society is a POLITE society!)
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To: Starman417
It appears even Mein Fuerer Obama is backing away from some of more strident talk of outright bans (probably realizing that the only thing it's accomplishing is an explosion in the sale of so called “assault weapons” and stands little chance of making it through the Republican House anyway). Carney came out this afternoon and gave some wishy-washy statement about gun control being a “complex issue” and need to take time and study it blah...blah...blah... The far left wackjobs on DU are all PO’ed that Obama isn't calling for a vote today on a complete ban or just using the executive order.
4 posted on 12/17/2012 3:33:37 PM PST by apillar
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To: Starman417

The way I see, there are two extremes:

1. Gun-free society.
2. Everybody is armed.

Both are perfect in terms of eliminating gun violence or reducing the magnitude. In the first scenario, there is no gun for the criminal to “use”. He will have to use a knife or other weapons. In the second scenario, even if he has a gun, he would be neutralized by teachers and principals as he forces his way through the school.

In reality, however, the society is somewhere in the middle. There are hundreds of millions of guns, but they are concentrated among the prepared and the criminals. The sitting ducks are defenseless. We have sitting-duck zones where criminals can simply cause mayhem. If those sitting ducks do not arm themselves to protect themselves(personal responsibility), then the only choice is for everybody else to lose their gun-owning rights. And demonrats are committed to pursue that route.


5 posted on 12/17/2012 3:34:55 PM PST by sagar
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To: Starman417

Connecticut’s guns laws are very liberal compared to Russia’s. But we can all remember the Beslan massacre ending with the death of over 380 people.

Russian gun laws are the Brady Campaigns wet dream compared to Connecticut’s laws and they did not stop a bunch of Islamic nut jobs from getting guns and killing more than 14 times as many people.


6 posted on 12/17/2012 3:35:38 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: sauropod

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7 posted on 12/17/2012 3:36:57 PM PST by sauropod (I will not comply)
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To: Starman417

McVeigh killed 20 kids UNDER 6.

WITH COWSH!T!

How many kids got killed on 9/11?

WITH ASSAULT STYLE BOX CUTTERS!

Ok, so we better ban box cutters and cowsh!t right now, chop, chop!


8 posted on 12/17/2012 3:37:37 PM PST by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslimz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: Pontiac
Russian gun laws are the Brady Campaigns wet dream compared to Connecticut’s laws and they did not stop a bunch of Islamic nut jobs from getting guns and killing more than 14 times as many people.

This ^

9 posted on 12/17/2012 3:37:48 PM PST by Noumenon (As long as you have a rifle, you STILL have a vote.)
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To: sagar
The sitting ducks are defenseless. We have sitting-duck zones where criminals can simply cause mayhem.

Those sitting ducks are mostly that way by choice. Not my problem, nor my obligation to protect them. If they choose to live in a no-gun state or not to exercise their Second Amendment rights, that's their business. If I am in a position to protect them with reasonable safety, I'll do so, unless they are among the anti-self defense activists.

10 posted on 12/17/2012 3:50:57 PM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Starman417

had to walk past a local self-defense type shop on way to the grocery store for a carton of eggs. the place was packed with customers, some waiting outside on the side walk. I stopped to chat with a couple of them, they said they were there buying g’s for all their friends and relatives ... just in case some dictatorially-minded politician were to really ever try to impose more g- control laws on America.

These politicians are the best thing for the self-defense industry!!! A politician’s face comes on the boobtoob and the next morning half the town is lined up to buy more gear!


11 posted on 12/17/2012 3:53:08 PM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: sagar

Item 1 can never be attained simply because criminals will never give up their guns and neither will our politicians allow their bodyguards to be disarmed.

You see, the lives of our politicians are soooooooo much more worthy to be preserved than that of the useless, common, law-abiding citizens. Hell, even European politicians have armed bodyguards. (That’s why the 9mm caliber is so popular. Inside joke.)

You think the politicians will give up their guns? If you do, Obama will love you for it.


12 posted on 12/17/2012 4:06:36 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: ConradofMontferrat
McVeigh killed 20 kids UNDER 6. WITH COWSH!T!

Ammonium nitrate and diesel fuel, or was it kerosene?
Anyway, it certainly wasn't cow manure.
13 posted on 12/17/2012 4:08:23 PM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: Starman417
This will be an all out war on gun owners. Count on it.

Obama: ‘I Don’t Believe People Should Be Able To Own Guns’
14 posted on 12/17/2012 4:10:54 PM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: ConradofMontferrat

One quarter of the world’s population was killed by a rock.*

How do we rid the Earth of rocks?

You have to really try hard to be ignorant if you believe that the tragedy of a few dozen people that are killed at random is worse than the government killing several million innocent victims that disagree with them. Don’t think it could happen here? I’m certain that the people in Communist countries didn’t think it would happen to them in a Worker’s Paradise.

Don’t forget about the huge increase in crime that would come if criminals knew that all the honest people were disarmed.

Many many thousands or millions of tiny coffins for children or orphans to grow up being raised by the State after the fashion of the puppies in Animal Farm.

*Killer was Cain


15 posted on 12/17/2012 4:11:11 PM PST by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are crimes committed by illegal aliens)
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1

Psst!

Ammonium nitrate in fertilizer comes from cowsh!t.

That’s why, when you open a bag, it smells like a barnyard.

But don’t tell anyone! Word might get out.

LOL


16 posted on 12/17/2012 4:16:08 PM PST by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslimz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: Starman417

Coll.. looking forward to the carnage of them trying to get them.


17 posted on 12/17/2012 4:20:30 PM PST by maddog55 (America Rising.... Civil War II)
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To: Dick Bachert

The human mind is the most powerful weapon ever developed.

Next they’ll be canceling labor day picnics when there’s enough propane tanks turned into IED’s.


18 posted on 12/17/2012 4:26:02 PM PST by Morris70
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To: ConradofMontferrat

Remember this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cokeville_Elementary_School_hostage_crisis


19 posted on 12/17/2012 4:28:12 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Reopen the mental institutions! Damn the ACLU!)
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To: PATRIOT1876

A little confused here Patriot. Are you railing against me, or using my post to get stuff off your chest?

I’m guessing the latter. Because you and I are on the same page when it comes to commie pigs, tyrants and abortionists.

In a past life, I was up close and very personal with many folks who just happened (only by the grace of God) to survive Pol Effin Pot. “Enlightened Reformer” that he was, just ask Jannie Fondle.

Collectivism is Mr. Stitch’s hypnotic spell. And He makes it feel so good.

Animal Farm? I use it as an anti commie pig teaching tool. Just read it, look around, and anyone of sound mind can see the parallels.

So too with Atlas Shrugged. Today, France HATES Gerard Depardieu. He REFUSED to stick around and get “fleeced.”

Its almost too funny. Except its really sad. And I hate to say it, but in the past good ole Gerardo thought socialism was a “good thing.”

Good till it came to taking HIS stuff.


20 posted on 12/17/2012 4:28:50 PM PST by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslimz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Oh,Hell!

I did forget about this one!

But I still remember that the Happyland fire killed almost 200 folks.

An upset Rican with a belly full of prescription drugs used a can of gas and a PAPER match to burn the dance hall down.

All were killed in the most horrible way.

Pancho is still in stir.


21 posted on 12/17/2012 4:33:51 PM PST by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslimz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: ConradofMontferrat; Rightwing Conspiratr1

>Ammonium nitrate in fertilizer comes from cowsh!t.<

Actually it doesn’t.

Industrial production of high grade Ammonium nitrate fertilizer that is used in Oklahoma City style bombs is made using anhydrous ammonia gas and concentrated nitric acid.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ammonium_nitrate


22 posted on 12/17/2012 4:59:03 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Pontiac
>> Connecticut’s guns laws are very liberal compared to >> Russia’s. Actually a Saiga-12 semi-auto shotgun with a tactical pistol grip is perfectly legal to sell and own in Russia and is NOT legal in CT. The pistol grip is an "evil feature" according to CT statues that in combination with a detachable magazine makes it an "assault weapon". Saiga-12's and Saiga-410's sold in CT come with regular stock or Monte Carlo stock, but no pistol grip. Putting one on your gun aftermarket would be a felony. Saiga AK-pattern semi-auto Rifle in 7.62x39 is also illegal in CT, but is legal in Russia as a popular hunting weapon. The reason is it has interchangeable parts with AK-47. However, Saiga rifle in any other caliber (.308 or 5.45x39) are not illegal. Basically, handguns are illegal for civilians in Russia. But civilan AK-pattern rifles (the Saigas) or even AK-pattern semi-auto shotguns (Saiga-12) are not.
23 posted on 12/17/2012 5:04:41 PM PST by JadeEmperor
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To: JadeEmperor

OK

What does it take to get permission to buy the gun.

Like many places in the US (Connecticut) do you need a permit to buy the gun?


24 posted on 12/17/2012 5:13:23 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Pontiac

Well excuuuuze me, I’m just a dumb pollack pig farmer from the backwash of PA, but where do we get this “anhydrous” ammonium gas?

Freeze dried (psst, to make it ‘anhydrous’) cowsh!t.

But obviously, you are a lot more informed than I am, so I’ll let it go.

Have a good night friend.

BTW, I have spread more “ammonium nitrate” on the fields of Pa, than most folks have ever seen. Used a Case 800 and a New Idea mechanical as my “weapons of choice!”

And, do you know why pig sh!t and cow sh!t are so distinctively different in odor? Just a little farm boy pop quiz.

LOL, have a happy, I’m having fun here, hope you are too.


25 posted on 12/17/2012 5:34:22 PM PST by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslimz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: Pontiac
A CT pistol permit is required to buy or carry a pistol. To get one you need to complete the mandatory NRA instructor led course, pass both the local DPS and FBI background checks and have an interview with your local PD firearms permit officer. After that it can take anywhere between 3 and 6 months.

Currently no permit is required to buy long guns, but if you already have a valid pistol permit it makes buying long guns much easier. Just fill out the papework. Otherwise there is a waiting period.
26 posted on 12/17/2012 5:35:35 PM PST by JadeEmperor
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To: Pontiac

If you are interested in what it takes in Russia, here are some brief articles:

http://www.gunlab.com.ru/summary.html

If you are at least 18, have no felonies or more than 2 misdemeanors and have not been committed to a psychiatric institution, you can buy/own a semi-auto rifle or a shotgun (or a bolt-operated rifle, or a pump shotgun.) This includes AK-pattern civilian semi-auto rifles such as Saiga.

You cannot carry them outside your home (other than the range, or hunting area) if you do they must be dissassembled.


27 posted on 12/17/2012 5:43:56 PM PST by JadeEmperor
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To: ConradofMontferrat
BTW, I have spread more “ammonium nitrate” on the fields of Pa, than most folks have ever seen.

In my well spent youth I too spent my time behind the wheel of a tractor or two (Farmall 340 and Ford M to name my favorites).

The Ammonia Gas comes from petroleum.

Not to say that there isn’t a lot of ammonia in manure (lots of other nutrients as well) but if it is high concentrations of nitrogen and clean and easy application ammonium nitrate is that way to go.

Yep always fun on FR.

By the way as a farmer didn’t you always found the best manure coming out of the mouths of Democratic politicians?

28 posted on 12/17/2012 6:22:35 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Starman417
Connecticut has strong gun laws that help combat the illegal gun market, prevent the sale of most guns without background checks and reduce risks to children, according to the Brady Campaign.

The liberal answer is that if the next town/state is easier on guns then the crazies will go there. The whols country must have 0 guns.

29 posted on 12/17/2012 9:19:35 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Through the woods and over the cliff ....)
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To: ConradofMontferrat

I don’t understand the hostility.

I thought you were against gun control (?!)


30 posted on 12/19/2012 4:21:27 PM PST by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are crimes committed by illegal aliens)
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