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Arizona Electors Question Barack Obama Birth Certificate
BirtherReport.com ^ | December 17, 2012 | John Celock

Posted on 12/17/2012 6:36:05 PM PST by Seizethecarp

The chairman of the Arizona Republican Party and two other Arizona members of the Electoral College on Monday questioned President Barack Obama's birth certificate during the formal casting of the state's electoral votes.

Arizona GOP Chairman Tom Morrissey said during the state's Electoral College meeting that Obama did not produce a "legitimate" birth certificate, KNAU reports.

Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer (R), who has vetoed bills to require presidential candidates to show a birth certificate to Arizona's secretary of state, said she disagreed with the trio's stance. Secretary of State Ken Bennett (R), the presiding officer of the Arizona Electoral College, also said he disagreed with what the three said.

(Excerpt) Read more at obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: arizona; birthcertificate; certifigate; electoralcollege; naturalborncitizen; obama
This looks like the "surprise" teased by Carl Gallups.
1 posted on 12/17/2012 6:36:19 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: null and void; LucyT; Red Steel; advertising guy; GregNH; Kenny Bunk

Snarky comments about Barry’s BC at the AZ electoral round-up! But will one house member and one senator object on Jan 6?


2 posted on 12/17/2012 6:39:55 PM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Seizethecarp
Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer (R), who has vetoed bills to require presidential candidates to show a birth certificate to Arizona's secretary of state, said she disagreed with the trio's stance. Secretary of State Ken Bennett (R), the presiding officer of the Arizona Electoral College, also said he disagreed with what the three said.

Cowards

3 posted on 12/17/2012 6:40:37 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Seizethecarp

hm, I think the courts would be foolish to go with their standard “you don’t have standing” approach because these are the electors: they have personal involvement and the ethical obligation to ensure their votes are for a valid candidate.

Berry interesting.


4 posted on 12/17/2012 6:40:52 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Seizethecarp
But will one house member and one senator object on Jan 6?

NO.

They value their lives too much and their country and Constitution too little.

5 posted on 12/17/2012 6:43:00 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Pontiac; Seizethecarp

She woke up one morning with a cut off horse head in her bed. She, ALSO, like so many others got the message of Breitbarting!!!


6 posted on 12/17/2012 6:44:22 PM PST by danamco (-)
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To: Seizethecarp

Their questions are a day late and a dollar short. I agree with previous comment. COWARDS.


7 posted on 12/17/2012 6:45:03 PM PST by johnsmom (I must be dreaming 'cause this can't be real)
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To: OneWingedShark
“...they have personal involvement and the ethical obligation to ensure their votes are for a valid candidate.”

Hmmm...since AZ went for Romney and AZ is winner-take-all, they all voted for Romney. But I would think they might have standing to have their preferred candidate not be defeated by an ineligible candidate. (IANAL)

Too bad Arpaio and Zullo didn't have a legal opening to at least make a presentation (or were denied one). The fix is in as far as the GOPe is concerned on the NBC issue. Heck, they still want to keep the door open for Rubio, Jindal and Haley as well.

8 posted on 12/17/2012 6:47:21 PM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Seizethecarp

I would like to commend the 3 for their courage in bringing this up.

Of course Jan Brewer and others will not back them up./

Jan has been duly chastised by Obama.She is scared.


9 posted on 12/17/2012 6:48:59 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Pontiac

we need to vote to remove any politicians who continue to cover this up

the issue merits review through the proper channels

and the American public deserve it be done per our Constitution


10 posted on 12/17/2012 7:08:04 PM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: butterdezillion

PING!


11 posted on 12/17/2012 7:16:36 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Seizethecarp; hoosiermama; little jeremiah; null and void; Spaulding; advertising guy; GregNH

Thanks, and Ping.


12 posted on 12/17/2012 7:21:47 PM PST by thecodont
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To: Venturer
Jan has been duly chastised by Obama.She is scared.

Or perhaps she just thinks birtherism is stupid.... You know, like most people do.

13 posted on 12/17/2012 8:14:13 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: OneWingedShark
I'm not sure that the legal standing doctrine is even a Constitutional doctrine. When you look at the wording of Article III, it says judicial power applies to cases in Law and Equity arising under the Constitution as well as "controversies" between a number of different legal entities.
... to Controversies to which the United States shall be a Party;--to Controversies between two or more States;-- between a State and Citizens of another State,--between Citizens of different States,--between Citizens of the same State claiming Lands under Grants of different States, and between a State, or the Citizens thereof, and foreign States, Citizens or Subjects.

Under the last clause, one can make a compelling argument that any citizen of the United States could bring a case against Obama as a foreign citizen or subject because he's lacks article II eligibility for the office of president. Further, one could cite Fairchild v. Hughes which suggested that legal standing only applies in challenges against the Constitutionality of statutes (which is not at question here), and that:

Plaintiff has only the right, possessed by every citizen, to require that the government be administered according to law

The seating of a president certainly falls within this scope as there is a vested right for every citizen that the president should be Constitutionally eligible for office, and that ensuring this is executed properly is a matter of ensuring that the government is administered according to the Constitution.

14 posted on 12/17/2012 8:17:06 PM PST by edge919
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To: Pontiac

The Huffpost article is poorly written - doesn’t explain what this means. Is this a legal objection, and what is the procedure as a result of this objection? Does this go to court? What happens?


15 posted on 12/17/2012 8:22:15 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Seizethecarp; Absolutely Nobama; aragorn; Art in Idaho; Aurorales; autumnraine; azishot; ...
Constitutional Eligibility

16 posted on 12/17/2012 8:29:12 PM PST by null and void (Going Galt: The won't of the people)
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To: thecodont

Thanks for the ping.


17 posted on 12/17/2012 8:29:29 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Seizethecarp

If he doesn’t have a valid original long form BC, then he is an immigrant.

Subpoena his immigration records from DHS.


18 posted on 12/17/2012 8:43:05 PM PST by SvenMagnussen (TINKER, TAILOR, SOLDIER, SPY)
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To: Seizethecarp
Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer (R), who has vetoed bills to require presidential candidates to show a birth certificate to Arizona's secretary of state, said she disagreed with the trio's stance. Secretary of State Ken Bennett (R), the presiding officer of the Arizona Electoral College, also said he disagreed with what the three said.

Based on no particular logic or evidence.

19 posted on 12/17/2012 8:56:38 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: butterdezillion

I think Carl Gallups may have oversold the ability of these “constitutionally authorized” AZ electors to accomplish anything other than grouse from the sidelines, which is why I called it “snark.”

Their job today, as I understand it, was to rubber-stamp the AZ electoral vote for Romney. They did that. They have no votes to withhold from Obama.

At least they spoke up, and generated a buzz that even made it to HuffPo. With most of the cable showing pictures of the CT “baby angels” (RIP) 24/7 I’m not sure how many folks will notice.


20 posted on 12/17/2012 9:14:40 PM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Seizethecarp

bfl


21 posted on 12/17/2012 9:29:14 PM PST by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: null and void

Domo for the Ping.

I continue to educate people nearly every day on the subject of the bs “Obama” life narrative and I also challenge them to think about what implications the problem of divided loyalties (presuming “Obama” is telling us the truth about who his father is, which I don’t think he is) has on the definition of Natural Born Citizen.

Jaded, yes. Ready to give up? Not by a long shot.


22 posted on 12/17/2012 9:34:30 PM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome ("Obama": His entire life is Photoshopped.)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

Libs don’t care.

I showed a lib the forged Selective service document. His reply? Bush did not serve in Vietnam and Cheny did not serve.

There is no rule the democrat party can break that will disqualify them.

This lib I talked to is a self described Catholic, yet votes for an abortion pushing pimp, that tries to force the leadership of his church to pay for abortions.

Logic does not apply with these people. It’s all about power. He’s a middle class guy who is jealous of the rich, and Obama is his tool to lord over them. It makes him feel power.


23 posted on 12/18/2012 3:05:03 AM PST by PA-RIVER
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To: PA-RIVER; All
"Libs don't care."

It's not just the Libs, or this would've properly come to a Constitutional head long ago.

*sigh*

24 posted on 12/18/2012 4:08:05 AM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome ("Obama": His entire life is Photoshopped.)
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To: Longbow1969

Speak for yourself pardner.

Obama is no more qualifid to be resident than Hugo Chavez is.


25 posted on 12/18/2012 4:10:51 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Venturer

Romney has standing. He’ll get right in there and do something about the voter fraud and the hussein’s eligibility....


26 posted on 12/18/2012 6:14:57 AM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: Pontiac

The TinC (Thug) got to Brewer after she angered him by stabbing his chest with her finger and telling him off in public. And SoS Bennett has also been compromised.

How is it that the TinC can just threaten and intimidate all conservatives into submission? Perhaps all he has to say is, “Remember Breitbart.”


27 posted on 12/18/2012 6:56:31 AM PST by TheOldLady
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To: null and void

Thank you for the ping, Nully. I was wondering where this was going since the other thread on the subject. However, I can see that it’s going nowhere.


28 posted on 12/18/2012 7:08:21 AM PST by TheOldLady
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To: TigersEye
"Based on no particular logic or evidence."

Brewer was Arizona's SOS in 2008 and put him on the ballot. Conceivable that she has liability. She is not an unbiased party.

29 posted on 12/18/2012 7:37:07 AM PST by Smokeyblue
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To: Pontiac
Cowards

They've been threatened. I'm sure it's with more than the mere loss of their offices.

And even beyond that, when everyone in Hawaii and DC who controls the guns that keep the secrets decides to stonewall on the issue, there really is No Controlling Legal Authority left to turn to. In earlier times, it might have been an FBI issue - certainly not today. Anybody talking about Mena, Arkansas, these days?

Unless the GOP has been working for years on an evil master plan to crash the economy with Obama in office so he can take the blame. /s

30 posted on 12/18/2012 7:44:27 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: Seizethecarp; null and void; LucyT; Red Steel; advertising guy; GregNH; butterdezillion
The Soap Opera continues.

Like the court toadies in the "Emperor's Clothes," our representatives steadfastly look the other way. It is really alarmingly simple. What the WH lawyer received in Hawaii should match what the WH released on its website. Of course, as Sheriff Joe and the Boys document and what we already knew, it doesn't.

What the WH released is a "document" made up of bits and pieces of "data on file" in Hawaii. It's the equivalent of a Do-It-Yourself car title, or a homemade title deed. It is not a "Certified Copy" either. If this were a closing at Any Title Company, USA, it would not be acceptable. If the POTUS claimed to be a registered quarter horse instead of a horse's ass, with paperwork this bogus a cowboy could neither buy, nor sell him.

The SS#, the Selective Service Registration? ROTFLMAO and Oh Pull-Ease. This is an "identity crisis" and it's very old news indeed for The Mombasa MF. It's a replay of Barry's "voluntary resignation" from the Illinois Bar. What he did there was deny on his Bar Application having ever been known by another name (an "alias," in lawyer-speak"); neglect to mention traffic violations; drug use, etc. Of course, the actual proceedings are sealed, which is SOP in "voluntary resignations." My best wild guess has always been that in the ONLY case this guy ever handled, some bright opposing attorney noticed that the Bar Info did not match the "autobiography."

But so what? Where are we supposed to bring the evidence?

31 posted on 12/18/2012 10:05:39 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (Say, whatever happened to Reggie Love?)
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To: Longbow1969
Or perhaps she just thinks birtherism is stupid.... You know, like most people do.

Most people voted for Obama. Given that level of competence, who cares what they think?

32 posted on 12/18/2012 12:35:26 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Smokeyblue

Well, yes, there is logic in that. So many pols seem to have some self interest preventing them from doing the right thing.


33 posted on 12/18/2012 1:26:18 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: bgill

Bwahahahhahaha-——Man: You have a great sense of humor.

If Romney had any balls he would have done that before the election.


34 posted on 12/18/2012 2:35:28 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Longbow1969

Longbow1969
Quote :

Or perhaps she just thinks birtherism is stupid.... You know, like most people do.
UInquote.

Read much, troglodyte?

US Constitution , Article II, Clause 5 :

“No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”

**************************

By the time of their inauguration, the President and Vice

President must be:

natural born citizens
at least thirty-five years old
inhabitants of the United States for at least fourteen years.

**********************

Welll holly crapolinatas Longbow...the effing drafters of the Constitution were.........OMG!!!!!......”Birthers”

And there is NO genuine documentary proof that has been offered anywhere, at anytime that Barrak Hussein Obama is a natural born citizen of the United States.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3KBv735ko4


35 posted on 12/18/2012 7:19:02 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Kenny Bunk

” If the POTUS claimed to be a registered quarter horse instead of a horse’s ass, with paperwork this bogus a cowboy could neither buy, nor sell him.”

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!


36 posted on 12/18/2012 7:26:13 PM PST by bitt (The buck rolls downhill.)
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To: Seizethecarp

obumpa


37 posted on 12/19/2012 10:44:55 PM PST by Dajjal (Justice Robert Jackson was wrong -- the Constitution IS a suicide pact.)
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