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A gun owner responds to Sandy Hook
KevinMD ^ | December 18, 2012 | Edwin Leap, MD

Posted on 12/18/2012 7:57:33 PM PST by Slings and Arrows

“Hi, I’m Edwin, and I own firearms!”

Right now, in the shadow of the horrors of the Sandy Hook shooting, it feels as if every gun-owner is on edge.  Some are apologizing, distancing themselves from gun advocacy groups.  Some are saying all the right words, “well, my target gun is locked in a safe.”  Like telling your Baptist Preacher grandpa, “my whisky is in a cabinet and is only for medicinal purposes, of course.”  Some are saying, “well, I like guns, but nobody needs automatic guns that can be sprayed across a room.”

The thing is, we didn’t want to talk about this. We wanted to let people grieve, to try and find solutions to unpredictable events.  The gun control crowd politicized this first. They launched into the predictable tirades against the very people who, after all, didn’t commit the crime.  So we’ve responded.

The arguments and tirades go on and on.  But here’s the salient point.  I didn’t do it.  I hate that it happened.  I grieve for lost children and teachers, for hurting family members.  But I didn’t do it. My guns didn’t do it.  My friends didn’t do it, and neither did their guns.

I have my guns in a safe.  But they don’t stay there all the time.  I have nothing that qualifies in the minds of most progressives as an “assault weapon,” but if I could afford one I would.  They’re interesting, and enjoyable to shoot.  I have had friends who owned them, and I still do.  I knew people with fully automatic weapons; none of them killed anyone.  They were lawful, contributing citizens. Several were physicians.

So what I want to know is this:  what do you want us to do?  For those of you uninitiated into firearms, you don’t just walk into a store, pick one up and leave.  There’s paperwork, ID to show (it isn’t like voting, after all).  There’s either a background check or presentation of a concealed weapons permit in states, like mine, where they are available.

But what about those machine guns?  To belabor a point that should already be well understood by all, fully automatic weapons are not legal without further permits.  (You pull the trigger and it fires until empty.)  And they haven’t been since  1934.  Semi-automatic weapons (one round per trigger pull) are very common among various styles and purposes of rifles, pistols and shotguns.  And in fact, semi-automatic handguns may be safer to keep around than revolvers.  I know, too much detail, scary guns, etc.  But a semi-automatic handgun can have a magazine of ammunition loaded in it, without a round in the chamber to fire. Whereas a loaded revolver will fire whenever the trigger is pulled.  Of course, both are perfectly safe when treated safely and owned by lawful, responsible and trained individuals.

So which thing do we need to limit? Which part of the process do we need to tighten?  If you want to expand psychiatric background checks, I can get on board with that.  Depends, of course, on how you define mental illness.  If the desire for a gun is a sign of mental illness, we’ve made no progress.  But if you mean a history of suicidal or homicidal behavior or commitment for such, fair enough.

And if you say, “we need more mental health care,” I’ll say “Amen.”  You send me some more psychiatrists and I’ll forward to them all the patients that they can bear.  There just aren’t many of them around.  Furthermore, their work is frustrating, often thankless and populated with patients who are mentally ill, as well as with those who want mental illness rather than actually having it.  It’s hard to care for the sick while sifting through the lot.

So let me be clear.  I have a concealed weapons permit.  It took a background check, fingerprinting, a class and a test.  I have a gun safe.  I have taken extra training in the effective use of my weapon.

What would you like me to do differently?  What would you like to take from me?  If I threw open the safe and said, “come take what you want to make society safer,” what would you take?  Would the world be better?

The thing is, I’m representative of the vast majority of America’s gun owners.  Like it or not, we’re a boring, law-abiding bunch.

Of course, those are the ones it’s easiest to regulate, I suppose.

Even when it doesn’t help.

Edwin Leap is an emergency physician who blogs at edwinleap.com and is the author of The Practice Test.


TOPICS: Government; Health/Medicine; Politics
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; secondamendment
The comments on the article are running about 5-2 anti-. Lot of autocrats and cowards at KevinMD.
1 posted on 12/18/2012 7:57:37 PM PST by Slings and Arrows
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To: Slings and Arrows

Lanza could have mowed down 20 kids in his car.

We had better ban cars.


2 posted on 12/18/2012 8:03:22 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Slings and Arrows

What they want to do is take your guns and repeal your right to bear arms.

Whether or not it helps is not relevant.


3 posted on 12/18/2012 8:08:51 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: mylife

“We had better ban cars.”

Yep, since drunks kill 10,000 people per year.


4 posted on 12/18/2012 8:10:19 PM PST by ScottfromNJ
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To: ScottfromNJ

Ban booze too!


5 posted on 12/18/2012 8:14:04 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Slings and Arrows
“well, my target gun is locked in a safe.”

Rightfully so. I keep my two wheel drive cars safely stored for the winter also. But I carry a semi auto handgun or have one close at hand at all times.

6 posted on 12/18/2012 8:15:20 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: chris37
What they want to do is take your guns and repeal your right to bear arms. Whether or not it helps is not relevant.

So veryy true. Gun control laws are not about guns. They are about control.

7 posted on 12/18/2012 8:16:19 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

I will have four or five spare mags for my Mini 14 by week’s end.


8 posted on 12/18/2012 8:29:09 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: ScottfromNJ

ban illegal aliens since they kill about 12 people per day. this isn’t abiut guns, it’s about power. period.


9 posted on 12/18/2012 8:33:29 PM PST by RC one (FU liberals.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

It’s time to wake up and smell the tyranny.

It’s all around us.

We have no representatives at all outside of ourselves, and they are coming for our power to represent ourselves right now.


10 posted on 12/18/2012 8:36:32 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Alaska Wolf
But I carry a semi auto handgun or have one close at hand at all times.

Ditto. There is a loaded Glock on the desk in front of me between the keyboard and monitor. (amazingly I haven't shot the computer - yet) There's a loaded Mossberg upstairs as well as the latest addition to the family, a loaded 5.56mm AR.

Given the rampant and misplaced anti-gun sentiments right now - and in particular because of obama's penchant for dictatorial use of Executive Orders - I have additional 30 round magazines and ammo on order.

I will celebrate and defend my rights and freedoms, the ignorant hand-wringers be damned. Gun control doesn't work and "gun free" zones aren't. Long past time we stopped such foolishness, stopped creating pools of defenseless potential victims for the evil and insane to prey upon.

11 posted on 12/18/2012 8:37:59 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: chris37
I suspect that you are right. Wasn't it Rum Emanuel that coined something about using any excuse to a launch a plan.
12 posted on 12/18/2012 8:38:46 PM PST by ANGGAPO (Layte Gulf Beach Club)
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To: ThunderSleeps
I will celebrate and defend my rights and freedoms

As will I. No EO by some halfwit usurper or his minions will stop me.

13 posted on 12/18/2012 8:45:08 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: Slings and Arrows

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9LWioXYaic


14 posted on 12/18/2012 8:53:59 PM PST by Dick Bachert (An ARMED society is a POLITE society!)
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To: ANGGAPO

Never let a good crisis go to waste or something to that effect was the ballerina’s contribution.

Thing is, our stalwart representatives, the fearless republicans, are not going to stand up for our rights and are utterly incapable of standing up for our rights. They are going to go right along with this.

We, those who did nothing at all, are about to be tossed under the boss.


15 posted on 12/18/2012 8:57:34 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: mylife

Um, they did that in the 1930s - it was called Prohibition. Want to know how that worked out? The criminals (a.k.a. the mafia, or mob) ran the liquor industry and made millions. The law abiding citizens obeyed the law. This is exactly how gun control will work too. Oh yeah, they repealed prohibition - it just didn’t work.


16 posted on 12/18/2012 9:00:28 PM PST by Catsrus
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To: Catsrus

Gun prohibition would work even more poorly - guns are much more durable than booze.


17 posted on 12/18/2012 9:03:57 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Catsrus

Did I really need the /s tag?


18 posted on 12/18/2012 9:04:11 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: RC one

Approximately 3000 were killed on 9/11. I guess airplanes should also be banned. And, let’s not forget explosives, knives, gasoline, lighters, and whatever else tickles the liberal’s fantasies.

We can’t legislate evil out of existence. Hah, try telling that to a knee-jerk liberal. They believe they can control every situation in life. IN other words, they like to play God.


19 posted on 12/18/2012 9:04:27 PM PST by Catsrus
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To: mylife
Ban Congress, they sent thousands of our young men and women to get maimed and killed in two worthless wars.

This country can never think about giving up any gun rights. Millions have gone to war and died for our rights. It is a shame that 20 kids died but it a personal matter not a national issue. Our country's fabric and determination is so weak I wonder how we would deal with a real tragedy, like a nuclear strike, famine , or a war within our own borders.

20 posted on 12/18/2012 9:10:44 PM PST by pterional
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To: Slings and Arrows

Connecticut had an assault rifle ban. Didn’t stop Lanza. He used a rifle that didn’t meet the restrictions of that law.
Connecticut had a waiting period for purchases. Didn’t stop Lanza. He stole his guns.
Connecticut had a ‘gun free zone’ law and policy for school. Didn’t stop Lanza.
Connecticut had a security perimeter. Lanza shot his way in.
Federal law forbids guns to the mentally ill. Lanza stole his guns.

What Connecticut didn’t have is a requirement for teachers and administrators to trained and equipped to protect their students. The teachers and the Principal did was brave, but useless: Unarmed, they put their bodies between the shooter and the children. After shooting them, the shooter proceeded to shoot the children.

Let the Teachers have guns. Improve their odds.


21 posted on 12/18/2012 9:13:40 PM PST by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: PhilDragoo

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Multi-millionaire gun-owner (D-CA) Senator Diane Feinstein (88 years old - 168 pounds) and her multi-millionaire gun-owner husband
owned and still own stock in a national Chi-Com firearms manufacturer of various military fully-automatic and semi-automatic assault weapons and firearms - including the AK and SKS series rifles and carbines and handguns.

How many millions of dollars has Senator Diane Feinstein made from their profitable investments in allegedly “assault weapons”?

.....and how many bloody dollars has Di-Fi and her pansy husband made manufacturing and selling millions of these assault weapons to Al Qaeda and North Korea and Venezula and Syria?

How is your .357Mag carry revolver Di-Fi? (per her California office staff on a tape-recorded telephone conversation)

Still promising to shoot and kill anyone that comes after you that eats Hostess Twinkes?

Still illegally carrying your Smith & Wesson .357Mag revolver in Washington DC?

.


22 posted on 12/18/2012 9:14:12 PM PST by devolve ( ---- ---- ---- -CHEESEBURGER_CHEESEBURGER_CHEESEBURGER- ---- ---- ---- ---- John Belushi ---- ----)
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To: pterional
"I wonder how we would deal with a real tragedy,"

We may soon find out.

23 posted on 12/18/2012 9:18:44 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Slings and Arrows; All

The REAL common denominator - besides the FACT that these shooters always pick ‘gun free’ zones - is THIS - fully documented

http://www.ssristories.com/index.php?p=school

this is just one story done on it - this in 2002!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9S-7aNPf33A

and, hey, the libs loves their dough boy, Michael Moore, right? Let them listen to what HE says about these shootings -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAdPq87v3Kk

world’s largest - and most peaceful army

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XjSSUC8IlY

BAN ZOMBIE DRUGS - NOT GUNS


24 posted on 12/18/2012 9:19:02 PM PST by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: donmeaker
I need some help making this image more effective. Any suggestions?
25 posted on 12/18/2012 9:47:56 PM PST by RightFighter (It was all for nothing.)
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To: Catsrus

Actually Prohibition (The Volstead Act) was passed in 1919 and became the law in 1920. It was repealed in 1933.


26 posted on 12/18/2012 10:05:31 PM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: devolve; ntnychik; Fred Nerks; Ernest_at_the_Beach; onyx; Travis McGee

Insider Trader, War Profiteer, Chinese
Company Invested Dianne Feinstein

27 posted on 12/19/2012 1:17:16 AM PST by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Fakistan)
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To: RightFighter

My favorite image is the legal M-1 garand, and the M-1 garand with a shoe lace wrapped around it to make it fully automatic. (bump fire device).


28 posted on 12/19/2012 8:34:12 PM PST by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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