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Gun Ownership In America: Right, Privilege, or Curse?
Hupages.com ^ | 12/18/12 | JXB7076

Posted on 12/18/2012 8:36:32 PM PST by jxb7076

Gun control is a subject which lies dormant in the hearts, minds, and souls of the American public. Its menacing social connotation rises and set as often as the sun itself. With respect to the recent shootings of innocent children and adults at the Sandy Hill Elementary School in Connecticut, and previous gun related violence, gun control once again is a national hot topic which offers various opinions among groups who support the letter of the law regarding the Second Amendment and those who oppose the Amendment altogether.

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; History; Politics
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; rights; secondamendment

1 posted on 12/18/2012 8:36:33 PM PST by jxb7076
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To: jxb7076; moder_ator

Double Post please remove one of them.


2 posted on 12/18/2012 8:40:15 PM PST by txnativegop (Fed up with zealots)
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To: jxb7076

Having a drivers license is a privilege. Gun ownership is a right.


3 posted on 12/18/2012 8:41:53 PM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: jxb7076; All

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XjSSUC8IlY

the world’s largest - and most peaceful and safest army


4 posted on 12/18/2012 8:42:36 PM PST by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: jxb7076

Posting on Free Republic; Right, Privilege, or ....?


5 posted on 12/18/2012 8:46:03 PM PST by MestaMachine (It's the !!!!TREASON!!!!, stupid!)
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To: jxb7076

Love America, Love Guns - http://wp.me/p2Obej-6W


6 posted on 12/18/2012 8:47:53 PM PST by RobaWho (I Love the U.S. Constitution, as written.)
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To: jxb7076

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9LWioXYaic


7 posted on 12/18/2012 8:49:44 PM PST by Dick Bachert (An ARMED society is a POLITE society!)
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To: jxb7076

8 posted on 12/18/2012 8:55:25 PM PST by Jayster
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To: jxb7076

A lot of people here in this country believe the idea freedom drafted 1776 is too ambitious. They want freedom from, not freedom of. Those that want freedom of should go shopping for the county that will accommodate their desire. We should be only too willing to help with their moving expense.


9 posted on 12/18/2012 8:59:28 PM PST by oyez (Hell must be a Gun Free Zone.)
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To: jxb7076

Good thing we didn’t have gun control laws in 1776, huh?


10 posted on 12/18/2012 9:01:45 PM PST by navyblue (<u>)
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To: jxb7076

God given, Constitutionally acknowledged RIGHT!


11 posted on 12/18/2012 9:09:15 PM PST by Trod Upon (Civilian disarmament is the precursor to democide.)
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To: jxb7076
It's a basic right, pure and simple. The right to bear arms is one of the basic human freedoms that form the definition of a free citizen in contrasted to a mere subject.

Make no mistake about it - this current Regime intends to strip away our basic freedoms - freedom of speech, freedom of religion, the right to bear arms and all of the rest.

We can't let it happen - the blood of over two centuries of patriots demands that we act to preserve the freedoms that were won by our forefathers and sealed into law by our Constitution and our Bill of Rights.



Keep Faith with the Fallen of Benghazi! Let the Obama Regime, for once, tell the Truth!

Fiat Justitia, Ruat Coelum!

Genuflectimus non ad principem sed ad Principem Pacis!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

12 posted on 12/18/2012 9:18:00 PM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: jxb7076
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13 posted on 12/18/2012 9:25:24 PM PST by baddog 219
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To: jxb7076

DUTY


14 posted on 12/18/2012 9:51:51 PM PST by TexasTransplant (Radical islam is islam. Moderate islam is the Trojan Horse.)
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To: Trod Upon

Bravo, well said!


15 posted on 12/18/2012 10:00:28 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: TexasTransplant

Exactly. In this day and age when whack jobs feel empowered to express themselves violently to get their ten minutes of fame... The question isn’t gun control, it is why the hell aren’t you armed to protect yourself and your loved ones? Seriously, not being prepared to defend your family is reckless to the point of almost being a negligent parent. You’ve got life insurance to provide for them if something happens to you. You drive around with seat belts, air bags etc. You put your kids in car seats, made them wear helmets on their bikes. You have homeowners insurance, smoke detectors, carbon monoxide detectors... Most of these things you will never use, so why do you expend resources on them? Because if you need then and don’t have them the consequences are too severe. That is why you have them, even if you’ll probably never use them. Now consider a home invasion, car jacking, violent mugging, rape, or outright murder. Pretty severe consequences, why aren’t you prepared to deal with it?


16 posted on 12/18/2012 10:13:05 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: ThunderSleeps

I hope the Pendulum starts swinging back to the Sanity side pretty quick, cause what is happening now is Insanity.

TT


17 posted on 12/18/2012 10:21:46 PM PST by TexasTransplant (Radical islam is islam. Moderate islam is the Trojan Horse.)
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To: jxb7076

How about “obligation”?


18 posted on 12/18/2012 11:11:57 PM PST by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: jmacusa
"Having a drivers license is a privilege. Gun ownership is a right."

Don't perpetuate this public school nonsense about driving being a privilege.

Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Driving is absolutely your liberty and your god given right.

19 posted on 12/18/2012 11:23:59 PM PST by precisionshootist
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To: jxb7076

One thing to remember in the upcoming so-called debate on gun rights.

The 2nd amendment does not grant the right to keep and bear arms, it plainly acknowledges that the right exists.

The 2nd actually prohibits infringement of that right.
Please note I did not say government infringing or federal infringement, simply infringement.
It applies to all.

While the 1st notes “congress shall not pass any law”, the same cannot be said for the 2nd.
It does not specify the federal government, state government, or any subordinate authorities, or even The People.
It simply states that a Right of the People shall not be infringed.

Infringement includes prohibition, regulation, ( not the “well regulated” in the introduction, but actual laws, rules, and policies that interfere with the practice of that right ) outright bans and other laws that might reasonably be construed as anti-weapon.
Many congressionally instituted laws ( 1934 gun tax act, ‘68 gun control act, Brady Bill, Assault weapons ban ) are by any logic, unconstitutional when looked at in the light of the 2nd amendment prohibition.

Likewise, States and municipalities like DC, New York, Chicago, etc. are also unconstitutional when considered under law.
Implied: If no one agency is specifically prohibited, All are prohibited.
Inherent: If “A well regulated militia” is one reason for protecting the People’s Right to keep and bear arms, then it stands to reason that not only Federal authority is prohibited, but State authority.
In fact, the states are required to organize a militia, composed of residents of the state and the federal government is required to properly equip them, and train them. ( This is the 1791 meaning of “well regulated” stated in the 2nd amendment. Trained and properly equipped. )

Finally, Weapons did not then and does not now only mean guns.
Knives and Swords were included as essential arms.
The argument was made that even cannon were to be considered as arms needed by the people to protect the nation. ( Militia protecting territorial waters )

The creators of the Constitution were some incredibly thoughtful people that put together one of the most advanced and forward thinking documents of the last 250 years.
The Bill of Rights was hotly debated at the time of it’s adoption, many opponents proclaiming that naming any of the People’s rights would only be a legal means of weakening and eventually eliminating those rights, or other rights not enumerated.
Others felt so strongly that the 2nd amendment was not strong enough, and amended their own State Constitutions to insure that the Right to keep and bear arms was more plainly stated.

I suppose we’re still unable to say, in the end, if they were right or wrong in their objections, but I tend to feel that those enumerated rights would be gone already if it were not for their inclusion in the Constitution.
Let’s not forget that said document also plainly speaks to the People’s Rights (and State’s Rights) and places those Rights in the hands of “the States and respectively, the People.”
Let’s not forget also, that the final authority lies in the hands of we, the People of the United States.
We elect those representatives to State government, to do our will.
Too often, those representatives ignore the wishes of the people and do as they wish, amassing personal power and wealth, and we simply allow it to happen.
The same happens locally, and even nationally.
You know it, You’ve all seen it.

The Right to Keep and Bear Arms is exactly that, a recognized Right of the People.
The 2nd amendment is designed to protect that Right by prohibiting Anyone, Federal, State, or Local, from standing in the way of that Right.
It is in the Constitution to protect our Nation, it’s People, and our way of Life.


20 posted on 12/19/2012 12:55:53 AM PST by Drammach (Freedom - It's not just a job, It's an Adventure)
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To: Nailbiter

four later read


21 posted on 12/19/2012 2:34:36 AM PST by Nailbiter
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To: Drammach

@ Drammach - great analysis, insight and valuable input. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I agree that the 2nd Amendment is more complex than simply protecting the rights to bear arms. Thanks for sharing.


22 posted on 12/19/2012 9:29:17 AM PST by jxb7076
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To: Drammach

@ Drammach - great analysis, insight and valuable input. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I agree that the 2nd Amendment is more complex than simply protecting the rights to bear arms. Thanks for sharing.


23 posted on 12/19/2012 9:29:30 AM PST by jxb7076
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To: Drammach

@ Drammach - great analysis, insight and valuable input. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I agree that the 2nd Amendment is more complex than simply protecting the rights to bear arms. Thanks for sharing.


24 posted on 12/19/2012 9:29:40 AM PST by jxb7076
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To: baddog 219
Which one of those murderous freaks killed the most people?

The one who worked for the government.

25 posted on 12/19/2012 11:31:04 AM PST by Godebert (No Person Except a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!)
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To: Godebert
Photobucket Reno not only killed children,,, She tortured them with lights and noise,and used tanks and flamethrowers....And CHEMICAL WEAPON GAS....Burned most of them alive.... Yea... We don't need to worry about our government and the need to protect ourselves from them...
26 posted on 12/19/2012 1:35:55 PM PST by baddog 219
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To: baddog 219

And the left cheered.


27 posted on 12/19/2012 1:45:36 PM PST by Godebert (No Person Except a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!)
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To: precisionshootist

Sorry to say but every state considers driving to be a privilege that any number of offensives can result in that privilege be revoked, some times for a year or longer. And sometimes you don’t ever get it back. They certainly don’t teach things like this in any public school I’m sure. If driving is a God given right( I never knew God was in the business of granting rights) then it should be a God given right for me to think some else should pay for me to drive a Mercedes Benz.


28 posted on 12/19/2012 11:50:23 PM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: jmacusa
"Sorry to say but every state considers driving to be a privilege that any number of offensives can result in that privilege be revoked, some times for a year or longer. And sometimes you don’t ever get it back. They certainly don’t teach things like this in any public school I’m sure. If driving is a God given right( I never knew God was in the business of granting rights) then it should be a God given right for me to think some else should pay for me to drive a Mercedes Benz."

Well the supreme court considers obamacare to be constitutional, which is utter nonsense. So states "considering" driving a privilege is by no means any test of legitimacy. Yes, our rights do come from god and moving about by whatever means god has given us is a fundamental, inalienable right.

This "driving is a privilege" is utter nonsense that has been conditioned into our thinking. Yes, in my day driving was taught in public schools and it's the public schools that have brain washed our heads into believing the government somehow grants us this privilege and thus has the power to take it away. Pure horse puckey!

Give me a supreme court with strict constructionist judges and I will take that bet any day.

"If driving is a God given right( I never knew God was in the business of granting rights)"

?

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness......

29 posted on 12/20/2012 10:16:52 PM PST by precisionshootist
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To: precisionshootist

I’ll say it again so you’ll understand; Driving is a privilege and not a right. Go to your local DMV and ask them.


30 posted on 12/20/2012 10:44:11 PM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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