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A new survey shows us exactly why America is dying: the TAKERS think things are just fine
Coach is Right ^ | 12/22/12 | Emma Karlin

Posted on 12/22/2012 10:18:13 AM PST by Oldpuppymax

A new Pulse Opinion Research (POR) survey provides all the evidence needed to conclude that America was mortally wounded by the reelection of Barack Obama. For whatever their reason the Makers in our country saw fit to stay home and allow the Takers and their enablers to ascend to power. Now the country will reap the devastation brought on by their decision.

The opinion splits found in the POR report on every important indicator of the financial health of the country could not be clearer. While an overall 59% think the country is on the wrong track, 87% of Republicans (the Makers’ Party) said “wrong track” and 54% of Democrats, (the Takers’ Party) saw the nation as being on the right track. Why should they think otherwise with so much “free stuff” coming their way paid for by...

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: barackobama; liberalism; welfare
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1 posted on 12/22/2012 10:18:18 AM PST by Oldpuppymax
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To: Oldpuppymax

as long as there’s stuff to take from other, they’re happy.

Prayers for Maggie Thatcher. “Socialism is great until you run out of other people’s money.”


2 posted on 12/22/2012 10:28:07 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Ran into a relocated friend last night. Says he doesn’t follow politics, that he’s proud to have voted for Obama twice, doesn’t think BO has screwed ANYTHING up, and that he was scared by the thought of a Romney presidency.

Follow the media and you too can echo their talking points.


3 posted on 12/22/2012 10:29:39 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Oldpuppymax
The article records attitudes; not the real cause of those attitudes, which is basically two-pronged. Since 1938, the Federal Government has subsidized the increase in the population of the Welfare class via the ADC program, which not only offered to support children born out-of-wedlock, but took the stigma out of the process. And since 1965, the Federal Government has subsidized the immigration of those with the least ties to our traditional values.

It is insane from a traditional American Government; but the policy nicely fits those compulsive humanists & egalitarians, who despise traditional American values, and want to remake us into part of an international ant hill--the "one-world" idea that appeals so strongly to the perceptually deficient Leftists.

See Losing America's Multi-Generational Purpose

William Flax

4 posted on 12/22/2012 10:31:43 AM PST by Ohioan
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To: Oldpuppymax
Free stuff is an addiction and the main addiction dealer is in the white house.
5 posted on 12/22/2012 10:31:49 AM PST by oldbrowser (They are marxists, don't call them democrats)
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To: Oldpuppymax
I'm glad I'm no longer working (still paying plenty of taxes though).

My time is my own. I spend ZER0 hours/yr working for the benefit of the Takers who spend zer0 hr/yr contributing to the "common good".

I'm no longer a slave workin' for the various gov'ts. All work done for oneself is taxfree.

6 posted on 12/22/2012 10:33:04 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Oldpuppymax

Unfortunately this issue can only be resolved by “rivers of blood.”


7 posted on 12/22/2012 10:34:12 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Most of the time most people don’t like to get apocalyptic and think about approaching chaos or catastrophes. That may mean that they miss things that are going on and squander opportunities to fix problems, but it’s not a wholly bad thing. If everyone was up in arms now, it wouldn’t make the country a better place, since if we were all ready to fight, everybody wouldn’t be on the same side by any means.


8 posted on 12/22/2012 10:39:57 AM PST by x
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
Before you get too comfortable with the idea that you'll end up on top and others will be lying about bleeding remember how the English got sidetracked in the 100 years war.

They initially made a big start showing the French the power of well trained archers, but over time they ended up using cannons, and the French too got cannons and they turned to shooting cannons at the other guy's cannons.

But that's not what bogged them down in an almost endless serious of invasions and retreats, and finally total losses.

It was the plundering. You read any serious piece about the Hundred Years War you run into it.

Rather than make the effort to hold and govern an area the English commanders would bring their troops up to a town ~ and send an emissary to approach the gate with a demand ~ to wit, send out the 10, 20, or whatever number of the town's richest men with their stuff, and we'll go away.

The townsmen always complied, and in short order the now wealthy English commanders would high tail it back to Merry old England with the loot ~ leaving further pursuit of war to others~

The French were gradually unburdened of their coupon clippers and minor titled nobles, and corrupt sheriffs and constables and began to take heart. When Jeanne d'Arc strode on the world stage they were ready to take it to the English.

In the end the English accepted Jeanne ~ like they had so many wealthy minor nobles before her ~ burned her at the stake, and were shortly reduced to a small holding in the Far West ~ destroyed by their own avarice ~ while the French had been strengthened through the loss of their own.

Do not imagine for a second that others think of the wealthy as givers ~

9 posted on 12/22/2012 10:47:13 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Oldpuppymax

And they will keep on thinking so - right on up until their EBT cards don’t clear the WalMart Checkout Register.

What sane person that actually works and pays taxes won’t examine the theft of their hard-earned income and look to see if there is a way to maximize their take-home and minimize their taxes and other thefts of it?

In the extreme, there are those high paid workers that have paid off their homes, their loans, their credit cards, their cars, etc. that just say “eff it” I’m not gonna keep working to earn the most I can so that a frickin’ leech can go spend it at WalMart with her EBT card.

The time is coming when entrepreneurship will be finally stiffled, high paid jobs will be deserted, and the former working class actually checks out to cash in.


10 posted on 12/22/2012 10:48:58 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Oldpuppymax

11 posted on 12/22/2012 10:50:08 AM PST by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: Oldpuppymax

I can’t prove it. I’ve said it before so I will be brief here. We don’t need to convince 100 percent or even 70 percent of the “takers” ... we only need convince SOME of them that they’d be so much happier or better off with a working economy that offered them lots of jobs they could easily get.... or even good small biz opportunities.
In other words, a R candidate who ARTICULATES well and, yes, does “reach out” to the D party base.....
(Reagan?)
CAN, I am absolutely convinced, WIN.
But for all his success in the primaries, Romney did not really articulate very well much of the time in the general election, nor did he reach out much to the D base.

We only need to convince SOME of them, let’s try to get a candidate next time who will really try to do it.
AND, any Democrats reading this...please try to get rid of the communist and pro-Jihadi, anti-American fringe element that’s usurped the D party. Nominate a decent American with good, positive values. If s/he wins, so be it.
We will grouse but we will support his administration.
We cannot support an open America-hater, however.
And Forget about Hillary, she’s unacceptable after selling out American interests all over the world to the IslamoFascists her boss loves so much.


12 posted on 12/22/2012 11:02:06 AM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: a fool in paradise

My sister and her husband are the same way. They think 0bama is doing just great. They have no TV, don’t read newspapers and don’t read about politics on the internet so I have no idea how they get it but they know all the talking points of the left.


13 posted on 12/22/2012 11:06:16 AM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: a fool in paradise
“Ran into a relocated friend last night. Says he doesn’t follow politics, that he’s proud to have voted for Obama twice, doesn’t think BO has screwed ANYTHING up, and that he was scared by the thought of a Romney presidency.”

I have not spoken to one of my closest friends since before the election. I've known him all of my adult life, and would still do anything for him if he needed me. However, he was in my face over and over again spouting the inane bs the left always spouts, telling me how stupid Bush and Palin are, how brilliant the man who won't release his college transcripts is, and how much he hated the Tea Party and wanted to see them screwed. Beneath his pronouncements and anger was clearly resentment, and I'm quite sure that resentment is a huge component of what motivates many on the left.

I explained to him that Obama was screwing my life personally, because I practice medicine, and also told him I didn't want to hear about this jerk. But he insisted, and was in my face about it. He clearly thinks that if you hear something on CNN, or ABC, or any of the pop culture media outlets it is by definition true. Conversely, he truly believes that Fox is the most biased media outlet in existence. In short, he is not well informed and incredibly susceptible to the propaganda that sustains the left.

For me, all of this has been very painful, and I just decided that life was too short to be tweaked by someone who is supposed to be my friend. I find it extremely offensive to have people congratulate themselves on how the are on the side of ‘tolerance’ and then call someone they don't know, Sarah Palin, stupid, and chastise her as ‘using her children as props’. I've never seen as much hatred as I've seen from the left, ever. A true friend wants to understand you, and cares about what hurts you. They don't gloat because their guy - the guy they think is best for them - won.

14 posted on 12/22/2012 11:08:01 AM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Oldpuppymax

“For whatever their reason the Makers in our country saw fit to stay home and allow the Takers and their enablers to ascend to power. “

Thinking in this modality IS the reason that the “Makers in our country saw fit to stay home...”, etc. Maybe we should put the cutlery down and just take a look at that “whatever” reason. It seems to me that that “reason” is kinda key to the entire question of why we lost a crucial election. Where are the conservative sociologists pointing the way towards a repair momentum, eh? This idiot tendency to blame anyone other than ourselves will absolutely deliver to us a continuing trend towards irrelevance in a modern laterally connected planet. Meanwhile the carpet continues to move out from under our feet and our screams won’t stop it.


15 posted on 12/22/2012 11:12:30 AM PST by Yollopoliuhqui
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To: Gaffer

They will take every penny from social security and from the makers before the ebts don’t work. Don’t kid yourself.


16 posted on 12/22/2012 11:21:04 AM PST by sheana
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To: faithhopecharity

Still waiting on Romney to start his campaign ~ anybody seen him lately?


17 posted on 12/22/2012 11:22:15 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

good point.
he did fine in debates but only a fraction of the people he needed to reach ever watch debates

he campaigned very effectively (alas) against a couple of the other R primary candidates, indeed it was that performance that gave me hope maybe he could win the general election (he was not my first choice)

all in all, Romney was credible whereas McCain just “enabled” O by continuously legitimizing or enabling him or telling us we didn’t have to be afraid of him. Alas, we did.

If the R party can’t nominate candidates who will run real election campaigns, it is most discouraging. They have to get up there and swing at the ball...

otherwise, they will keep losing...

I just can’t fathom why Romney/Ryan (and the rest of the R party apparatus and politicos and spokespeople) didn’t get out there and really campaign a whole lot more. (The polls were telling them they needed to do it, too...)


18 posted on 12/22/2012 11:46:50 AM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: Oldpuppymax

Read an article about the Gen Y professionals who can’t find work. Good. Problem is though that they can’t connect the dots.

This 56% are mostly at least ignorant and some are just plain stupid.

So much easier to ignore reality that everyone has to produce something for society to survive let alone prosper. Oh sure, you can help someone down on his luck but not forever. The resources all run out eventually.

I can’t pay everyone a decent wage if only half work and produce product. It just does not work.

The cliff has to come. It is the only way the taking will end. Terrible but true.


19 posted on 12/22/2012 12:04:26 PM PST by Sequoyah101
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
Unfortunately this issue can only be resolved by “rivers of blood.”

Unfortunately, you are correct sir. It is an opinion shared by many.

20 posted on 12/22/2012 12:04:51 PM PST by Mark17 (California, where English is a foreign language)
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