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Urban Advocates Say New Gun Control Talk Overdue
ABC News / The Associated Press ^ | December 22, 2012 | Jesse Washington

Posted on 12/22/2012 5:59:08 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

For years, voices have cried in the urban wilderness: We need to talk about gun control.

Yet the guns blazed on.

It took a small-town slaughter for gun control to become a political priority. Now, decades' worth of big-city arguments against easy access to guns are finally being heard, because an unstable young man invaded an elementary school in Newtown, Conn., with a military-style assault rifle and 30-bullet magazines. Twenty young children and six adults were slain....

(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: banglist; democrats; guncontrol; obama; secondamendment
Glad the press is being even-handed...
1 posted on 12/22/2012 5:59:19 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I suggest we start with Chicago. Let’s see Baraq send the ATF enforcers to the ghetto next summer.


2 posted on 12/22/2012 6:02:10 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: nascarnation

Bingo. Have Rahm head to the South Side each Fri and Sat night to talk the locals out of their arms.


3 posted on 12/22/2012 6:04:13 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Fine, let them ban guns in their cities.


4 posted on 12/22/2012 6:11:14 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Paladin2

Let me know when you see the pigs flying overhead. LOL


5 posted on 12/22/2012 6:11:46 PM PST by txnativegop (Fed up with zealots)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I haven’t seen one “gun control” advocate talking about stiffer penalties for gun CRIME. It is as if they don’t have a beef with the criminals just law abiding citizens. Now why would that be?


6 posted on 12/22/2012 6:12:26 PM PST by lodi90
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"We need a conversation about guns."

Translation: "We need to discuss how we are banning them, and you're going to quietly comply."

It's just like how the Left "compromises". They get what they want, and the other side gets to STFU. See? It's a COMPROMISE.

7 posted on 12/22/2012 6:16:38 PM PST by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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To: nascarnation

Simply adopt the same laws Chicago has. We can gather even more valuable stats on how good unenforced laws work.


8 posted on 12/22/2012 6:17:37 PM PST by Baynative
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I will NOT submit.

How come our Constitution protects the "rights" of illegals, drug dealers, homosexuals and people mooching off the government but not me?????????
9 posted on 12/22/2012 6:28:26 PM PST by Tzimisce (What do you do when every every branch of the government is corrupt and aligned against you?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
There is no news any more. It's all propaganda.

I remember when an article like this would have been shot down because it was too much like an editorial.

10 posted on 12/22/2012 6:30:41 PM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: Lazamataz

In 2008 the MSM went from being biased to actually being part of the Democrat/progressive perpetual campaign.


11 posted on 12/22/2012 6:33:56 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Urban” is the new buzz word for criminals have institutional dominance and government support to rape the tax payer- esp if he/she is white.

How urban.


12 posted on 12/22/2012 6:37:53 PM PST by Truth2012
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Urban” is the new buzz word for criminals have institutional dominance and government support to rape the tax payer- esp if he/she is white.

How urban is that?


13 posted on 12/22/2012 6:38:17 PM PST by Truth2012
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To: Lazamataz

Seems to me that the urbanites have an increased level of self importance lately.


14 posted on 12/22/2012 6:39:33 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Eric Holder's people support gun control because they consider violent crime to be a legitimate career path, and armed victims to be an OSHA violation.
15 posted on 12/22/2012 6:42:30 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Democracy is indispensable to socialism. The goal of socialism is communism." --Vladimir Lenin)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Before we implement this, we need to see it in a petri dish closed environment.

Oops, we have that already in Chicago and it FAILED miserably.


16 posted on 12/22/2012 6:43:22 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

More like “overdone”.


17 posted on 12/22/2012 6:48:47 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think gun control is a wonderful idea. Anyone who commits criminal homicide with a gun should be put through an expedited trial process which takes two years from arrest through execution (or acquittal, if the accused is found not guilty). That should discourage criminals from killing people with guns.


18 posted on 12/22/2012 6:53:35 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When Bloomberg, Rahm Emanuel, and all the other mayors get rid of their armed bodyguards and 24 hour armed protection, I will consider entering a “conversation” with them about gun control and hypocrisy.


19 posted on 12/22/2012 6:53:55 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (Save the nation, have your family's progressives spayed or neutered.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

yes we do.

let’s start by considering disarming all the urban blacks. how bout we start the discuasion there?


20 posted on 12/22/2012 7:01:25 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Urban = “dog-whistle” term


21 posted on 12/22/2012 7:08:40 PM PST by Disambiguator (America chose...poorly.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And Comrade Obama’s information ministry drones on.


22 posted on 12/22/2012 7:28:30 PM PST by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: cripplecreek
Fine, let them ban guns in their cities.

They are already, but two of them, Chicago and DC, have the highest shooting rates of almost any city in the country. Don't know how having new laws will change that.

23 posted on 12/22/2012 7:36:14 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

All the talk about gang violence and shootings being used as a lever to take guns away from honest citizens. I love the argument that if no one had guns there would be no gun violence, as if gang members and criminals would no longer have access to guns. How has that worked out in England and Mexico? And before someone starts blaming the U.S. gun stores for the automatic A-K47’s and M16’s you need to remember they are not legal to own for 99 percent of the population and are unavailable at gun stores.


24 posted on 12/22/2012 8:07:01 PM PST by Mastador1
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To: cripplecreek

To which I say: go ahead, push the issue. And then when those of us who live in the Red Zones say, “enough”, we simply stop doing commerce with the “Urbans”.

Which includes food, fuel, power, etc. . . . Methinks they’ll come around. . .


25 posted on 12/22/2012 8:28:22 PM PST by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border. I **DARE** you to cross it. . . .)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

Gun Control has been a big failure in Black areas. All those cities with Gun Control and large Black populations seem to have a lot of Blacks shot and killed.

The real racism in Gun Control is that the pushers of the failed policy want to disarm white folks....so they cannot defend themselves from minority criminals


26 posted on 12/22/2012 8:30:32 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (Seems that the ones who understand little about the economy are economists)
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To: Paladin2

It is a wonder why Obama did not to to the South Side to spend Christmas and the New Years Eve, walking the talk, block by block, ...

especially the blocks within 1,000 ft of a school

... Executive Order-ing gang members and others to lay down their assault weapons and other assault items and also charging them with felonies (re “Adler, national president of the Federal Law Enforcement Officers Assn.” - L.A.Times article by Melanie Mason, Washington Bureau, 12/22/2012).


27 posted on 12/22/2012 9:16:58 PM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You know you are in trouble when, nationalizing socialist advocates of a government police state are demanding that the people be disarmed.


28 posted on 12/22/2012 9:23:43 PM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: First_Salute

Yep, 0bama should be running his own “Model Cities” Program to demonstrate how organizing the ‘hoods to chuck their weapons would work so well.


29 posted on 12/22/2012 9:27:18 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
30-bullet magazines

Had there only been bullets in the magazines the children wouldn't have died from gunshot wounds you freaking moron!

30 posted on 12/22/2012 9:30:18 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wasn’t the so-called easy access his mother’s fault? I don’t know that any gun merchant sold him a weapon.


31 posted on 12/22/2012 9:58:52 PM PST by Elsiejay
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

OK, which one of you guys is going to go into these urban nieghborhoods and confiscate the gangbangers guns? Andy are you listening? Much easier to TRY AND confiscate and disarm law abiding citizens in rural communities chalk it up on your election calender and make a run for the WH IN 2016. Doochberg and son of sfachime are political whores who have no real good intentions that are not personal ones, all aboard!


32 posted on 12/23/2012 4:47:59 AM PST by ronnie raygun (Being Breitbart)
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