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A Pledge To Gun Grabbers
Transsylvania Phoenix ^ | 12/23/2012 | Transsylvania Phoenix

Posted on 12/23/2012 12:44:58 PM PST by .454Puma

I was 26 years old and barely married for two months when what you see in the pictures above happened. I was in Romania, carrying an AKM-47 as a Navy reservist. I didn't really cared if I was to live or to die - living my entire as a slave under communism really made me indifferent to the perspective of dying. In fact, I was ready to put a bullet in my head if the revolution wouldn't have succeed.

My father once told me: son, the single biggest mistake me and your grandad did was to surrender our guns in 1949 when the communists made gun ownership illegal. You paid for our mistake and I am sorry for that.

Now I have a 22 year old son and I am making anyone who wants to come to my home take my guns away A PLEDGE:

YOU WILL NOT TAKE MY GUNS. I WILL NOT MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE MY FATHER AND GRANDFATHER DID. I WILL NOT LET MY SON RISK HIS LIFE FIGHTING A ANOTHER REVOLUTION TO OVERTHROW ANOTHER DICTATOR BECAUSE I WAS A COWARD AND GAVE UP INTO YOUR DEMANDS.

I owe that to my son and to all the people who died for liberty in December 1989.

So help me God.

(Excerpt) Read more at transsylvaniaphoenix.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: 2nd; 2ndamendment; banglist; bloat; comeandtakethem; communism; cw2; cwii; guncontrol; gungrabbers; guns; massacre; secondamendment

1 posted on 12/23/2012 12:45:07 PM PST by .454Puma
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To: .454Puma

Amen.

If you come for my guns, I will kill you.

Period.


2 posted on 12/23/2012 12:47:43 PM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: .454Puma
Hear, hear!!
3 posted on 12/23/2012 12:47:59 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: .454Puma; mgist; raptor22; victim soul; Isabel2010; Smokin' Joe; Michigander222; PJBankard; ...
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4 posted on 12/23/2012 12:52:13 PM PST by narses
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5 posted on 12/23/2012 12:53:08 PM PST by narses
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To: Dead Corpse

Went to Wally-Mart World last night. Guy behind the counter told me they got 6 cases (must have been small ones) of Federal 9mm.

One guy (not me) came in and bought half of them immediately. By the time I was at the store later, one clerk told me they were already down to the last 5 or 6 boxes.


6 posted on 12/23/2012 12:53:27 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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7 posted on 12/23/2012 12:54:06 PM PST by narses
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To: .454Puma

Why have you excerpted your blog?


8 posted on 12/23/2012 12:54:24 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: .454Puma

From the TEXAS Declaration of Independence from Mexico..

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/19th_century/texdec.asp

“It has demanded us to deliver up our arms, which are essential to our defence, the rightful property of freemen, and formidable only to tyrannical governments.”

THE RIGHTFUL PROPERTY OF FREEMEN! Even Texas understood it!


9 posted on 12/23/2012 12:56:33 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (REOPEN THE CLOSED MENTAL INSTITUTIONS! Damn the ACLU!)
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To: humblegunner

Look again. It is the full text.


10 posted on 12/23/2012 1:00:33 PM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: .454Puma

May God defend the right!


11 posted on 12/23/2012 1:08:28 PM PST by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: Dead Corpse
If you come for my guns, I will kill you. Period.

Thank you for posting the one and only correct response to government gun confiscation.

I've argued up and down with misguided Freepers over the last couple of days about this subject, and am damn sick of some of the cowardly suggestions being thrown around.

My favorite has to be the ludicrous suggestion that one should hand the kind jackbooted thugs a 'throwaway' gun, while keeping your 'good' guns hidden. Anyone stupid enough to think that they'll be happy with that and toddle off on their merry way, hasn't got a grasp on the seriousness and finality of a real government gun grab.

If you won't exercise your 2nd Amendment rights when tyranny is on your doorstep, you were never going to do it anyway. Might as well turn your guns in now and save them the trouble.

12 posted on 12/23/2012 1:11:05 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: humblegunner
Why have you excerpted your blog?

I swear, Humble, they're going to chisel that into your headstone one day. Good grief....

13 posted on 12/23/2012 1:13:47 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Kirkwood
Look again. It is the full text.

Look again. What's this?

(Excerpt) Read more at transsylvaniaphoenix.blogspot.com ...

14 posted on 12/23/2012 1:22:42 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

OK, who’s going to make the usual snide comments about “keyboard commandos”, “internet bravado”, & “anonymous phony tough talk” when the subject is resistance to gun confiscation?

The sheer enormity of the logistics of planning confiscation in America (this isn’t Britain and it sure isn’t Romania) makes the widespread kicking in of doors by police officers highly unlikely.

Watch instead for a massive governmental attempt to change the culture against gun rights advocates. Bill Clinton shouted, “Hillary & I aren’t trying to change the culture!!” when the 1994 AWB was snaking through Congress. How badly they failed to change the culture was proven later that year.


15 posted on 12/23/2012 1:24:52 PM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: Windflier
I swear, Humble, they're going to chisel that into your headstone one day.

Here lies humblegunner
1964 - 2049

He fought the good fight.

He (excerpt, read more in St.Peter'sbook@blogspot.com)

16 posted on 12/23/2012 1:28:02 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: .454Puma

Various wordings of the Second Amendment were tried during its development. The end result *purposefully* leaves out any enumeration of reasons why an individual has the right to keep and bear Arms. Any reason *why* an individual may or may not keep and bear Arms, was left to the states and the people thereof, to settle among themselves.

The only enumeration in the Second Amendment focuses on what to do about a group of men under Arms - what is to happen when individuals who bear military grade Arms are in a group, and they *are* capable of exercising martial power. What *then,* was to become of that power?

The answer was, that both the states and the federal government would rely upon *the group* being formally mustered, well-regulated, well trained to Arms, well discplined, and answerable to civilian authority.

Both the states and the federal government sought unity of function and preparedness of the militia of each state. The state militiae should be “well trained to Arms” and be capable of, and mindful of, lawfully exercising martial power and respecting lawful civilian authority.

In the old days up to around WW-I times and for a while thereafter, there was a tradition of local militia drilling on the common, the town green, or the county fairgrounds. It gave people an opportunity to remain somewhat familiar with military duty; it helped to keep them from becoming too rusty. It demonstrated the proper practices and discipline *for all to see.*

It is a shame that most communities and counties and states got out of that practice.

All the uses of weapons, firearm or not, for non-military purposes, were left to be decided by the states and their people.

Again, there would be no condition within the Second Amendment, by which you do, or do not, have the right to keep and bear Arms; because, the Founding Fathers correctly anticipated that any such enumerated condition might be used as grounds for an individual to either be forced to bear Arms or be stripped of their Arms.


17 posted on 12/23/2012 1:31:04 PM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: .454Puma

I believe that we have a duty to protect people from police states, and that we have a duty to adhere to God’s desire that we oppose a) government tyranny, b) abuses of power by government agents, and c) abuses of power by government agencies.

Also, that it was our destiny to oppose the scourge of national socialist Germany that created the system of camps by which the socialists worked to exterminate millions of people *whom the socialists blamed for ‘injustice’ and against whom the socialists sought revenge.*

But, we have care-less-ly agreed *enough* - in order to get along with - the “feral” animalists who are enthralled with the gray areas between

- being rational loving human beings, and
- slouching in Gomorrah (they call it hedonism)

Indeed, the “feral” nationalizing socialists have become the thought police for fascism *just as their predecessors did among the German population.*


18 posted on 12/23/2012 1:32:37 PM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: humblegunner
He fought the good fight. He (excerpt, read more in St.Peter'sbook@blogspot.com)

Heh....now that's funny!

Merry Christmas, Humble.

19 posted on 12/23/2012 1:32:55 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
Merry Christmas, Humble.

Right back atcha, bud!

And a prosperous & victorious new year.

20 posted on 12/23/2012 1:39:01 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner
And a prosperous & victorious new year.

Brother, you still can surprise. That's the best holiday salutation I've seen in a long time. Perfect Freeper spirit!

21 posted on 12/23/2012 1:52:07 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: humblegunner

I thought you were MUCH older than that, you old curmudgeon...

Heehee


22 posted on 12/23/2012 1:52:28 PM PST by Politicalmom (Liberalism. Ideas so great they have to be mandatory.-FReeper Osage Orange)
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To: elcid1970

They never have to go to everyone’s house.

they do it to a number of houses initially, get the general sheeple population afraid, then say to the rest, turn em in or we’re coming for you.

At that point they need to be relieved of command. So that constitutional peace officers can be put in place.


23 posted on 12/23/2012 1:57:54 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Politicalmom
I thought you were MUCH older than that, you old curmudgeon...

I get that sometimes.

But you can always take heart in the fact that I'll be around until 2049.

I do.

24 posted on 12/23/2012 2:10:34 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: .454Puma

The fear of gun grabbers is the main reason I did not apply for a cc permit when they were finally allowed in WI. I did not want to be on the local police register as having guns.


25 posted on 12/23/2012 2:15:43 PM PST by logic101.net (How many children must die on the alter of "gun free zones"?)
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To: Windflier; Dead Corpse

***** “If you come for my guns, I will kill you. Period.”*****

Bump and Dittos

TT


26 posted on 12/23/2012 2:46:30 PM PST by TexasTransplant (Radical islam is islam. Moderate islam is the Trojan Horse.)
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To: humblegunner

That’s priceless.

Jolly good.


27 posted on 12/23/2012 3:14:23 PM PST by onona (Poke salad ain't all that bad.)
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To: humblegunner

LOL! The ultimate blog pimp!


28 posted on 12/23/2012 3:22:48 PM PST by TADSLOS (I took extra credit at the School of Hard Knocks)
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To: Dead Corpse
Anyone who would believe they have the right to disarm me would also put a bullet in the back of my head at the side of the road. Neither will EVER happen.

μολὼν λαβέ


29 posted on 12/23/2012 4:13:30 PM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: .454Puma

30 posted on 12/23/2012 4:42:41 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Windflier
Why have you excerpted your blog? I swear, Humble, they're going to chisel that into your headstone one day. Good grief....

Nope, It will read "Why have you excerpt..."

31 posted on 12/23/2012 4:46:38 PM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: .454Puma
The scumbag running Romania at the time (1989) was Nicolae Ceausescu and his wife Elena. Here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolae_Ceausescu

Nicolae and Elena were given a fair and speedy trial, condemned, and ordered to be shot on 22 December 1989. Volunteers for the 8 man firing squad extended for several blocks. When Nicolae and Elena Ceausescu were led out, each member of the firing party had an AKM with a 30-round magazine; 240 rounds later, the pair succumbed to lead poisoning. I imagine there will be some American political hacks that meet a similar fate if the Left gets their wish for CW2.

32 posted on 12/23/2012 4:59:47 PM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: humblegunner

2049? Isn’t that a bit optimistic?


33 posted on 12/23/2012 5:18:03 PM PST by Godebert (No Person Except a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!)
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To: .454Puma
I owe that to my son and to all the people who died for liberty in December 1989.

Geez, I remember all that happening like it was yesterday.

34 posted on 12/23/2012 5:25:53 PM PST by Sarajevo (Don't think for a minute that this excuse for a President has America's best interest in mind.)
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To: MasterGunner01

The trial was speedy but a total fiasco. A lot of questions remain unanswered to this day, and a lot of henchmen of the regime got away and later become millionaires by tapping into Ceausescu’s secret Swiss bank accounts. Justice was only partially served that day.
As for the date of the execution: it was Christmas Day December 25th 1989 when the soldiers put them against the wall and filled them with lead.


35 posted on 12/23/2012 6:17:25 PM PST by .454Puma
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To: humblegunner

Quit, you’re making my sides hurt.


36 posted on 12/23/2012 6:33:37 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: .454Puma
By golly, it was the 25th of December 1989! Thanks for the correction. I can't speak to the other points, but “sweet old” Nicolae and Elena are room temperature and now compost. That is a good thing IMHO.
37 posted on 12/23/2012 6:36:56 PM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: Windflier

**** “If you won’t exercise your 2nd Amendment rights when tyranny is on your doorstep, you were never going to do it anyway. Might as well turn your guns in now and save them the trouble.” ****

Naw .... I just bought a new Shovel...

My neighbor may not be a prepper but he will help me bury the body just because of the stench and flies... he is a friend but my problem is when tshtf he is totally unprepared... BUT he knows that I am...

He made fun of my TP stash (and he only saw about 1/3 of it) and when things get really rough for him and his family, things will change... spoke with him today and came close to explaining the Future ... then his phone rang and he had to split.

I really wish that more people would Prepare (or as the Govt says... Hoard)

TT


38 posted on 12/23/2012 9:41:18 PM PST by TexasTransplant (Radical islam is islam. Moderate islam is the Trojan Horse.)
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To: Godebert
2049? Isn’t that a bit optimistic?

Nah. That'd make me 85 when I die.
Both parents are alive at 81 and grandparents lived into their 90s.

85 seems a fair bet.

39 posted on 12/24/2012 5:34:54 AM PST by humblegunner
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To: elcid1970

They started trying to change the culture back about 1967-69. At that time I went Christmas shopping with a couple of women that I used to work with. As we walked out of the department store, there were several protestors protesting the selling of toy guns in the store. Even back then they were doing agitprop against TOY guns. I have wondered why they were doing this and I came to understand that they were trying to make the stores and the customers feel that there must be something wrong with toy guns. The idiots back then were saying that toy guns promoted violence. They were trying to make people and stores feel self-conscious about selling or buying toy guns. Since those days, you do not see toy guns in the stores like you used to and you do not see boys playing shoot-em-up like they used too. Funny, when boys were allowed harmless boy play, they were not so hung up with pent up violent feelings and taking it out on their schools.


40 posted on 12/24/2012 8:27:43 PM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: cradle of freedom

Hmm...I thought protests against `war toys’ were more recent.

But then, 1967-69 were the worst years of the anti Vietnam war demonstrations. Probably the same bunch against both.

I’ve been following the gun control battles ever since I heard Lyndon Johnson refer to “mail order murder” as the means by which Lee Harvey Oswald got his rifle. So that’s nearly fifty years.

I am as convinced now as then that gun control is not about fighting crime, it’s about controlling the population & suppressing gun rights people in particular as a political class that is hostile to the new societal order.

DiFi & her fellow gungrabbers will IMO trip up on their own arrogance & demand really off the wall things like confiscation, neighborhood informants, & ostracism of gun owners as “not the kind of folks decent people want to associate with”. Speaking of picketers, watch for them to gather in front of conservative Congressmen’s homes starting next year.

Besides, there’s that annoying little bump in the road to confiscation called the U.S. Constitution.


41 posted on 12/25/2012 6:38:39 AM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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