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VLOMO2012 - Day 29 - School or Prison
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Posted on 12/25/2012 7:38:06 AM PST by wintertime

Here is another fun game to play as you are driving about on this Christmas Day.

Short video ( 27 seconds):

School or Prison?/Another "Fun" Game

A variation of this game:

Count how many times that the signs outside those buildings that look like prisons but are actually schools will say, "Winter Break". No mention is made that this "Winter Break" just happens to coincide with our national holiday, Christmas.

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1 posted on 12/25/2012 7:38:11 AM PST by wintertime
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To: metmom; humblegunner; SecAmndmt; umgud; Mears; Oztrich Boy; The SISU kid; itsahoot; SaraJohnson; ...
Metmom: Another Reason to Homeschool

To all on Christmas Day,

May God save our nation and watch over and protect our children from evil. I pray in Jesus name.
Amen,

Wintertime

2 posted on 12/25/2012 7:48:43 AM PST by wintertime
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To: wintertime

You can’t even give it a break on our Lord Jesus’ birthday, can you?

My wish for the New Year is you will come to your senses and cease your broad brush ridiculous accusations..........but I will not hold my breath.

BTW, the “holiday” message from my Catholic HS alumnae association was “Seasons Greetings.” The message from my daughter’s “godless” (your word) public school was “Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.”


3 posted on 12/25/2012 7:56:26 AM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Gabz

Does evil take a break on Christmas Day?

We must be eternally vigilant for the sake of our children’s freedom.


4 posted on 12/25/2012 7:58:40 AM PST by wintertime
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To: wintertime
Does evil take a break on Christmas Day?

no it doesn't - as this posting has proven.

5 posted on 12/25/2012 8:01:27 AM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Gabz
Lighten up, Gabz!

It's just a fun little game to play as one travels about on this Joyous Christmas Day!

Merry Christmas! God is in charge. :-)

6 posted on 12/25/2012 8:18:25 AM PST by wintertime
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To: wintertime

You’re the one that needs to lighten up - did you even read what I wrote? No, because it doesn’t fit your broad brush attitude.

BTW - the “godless” HS chorus CHRISTMAS concert started off with a medley of Traditional Hymns and Carols and ended with O Holy Night followed by Silent Night. Oh, and chorus is not an extra curricula activity - like band, it is part of the music curriculum, and acceptance into the class is not guaranteed, nor is continued acceptance.

You are correct, God is in charge, which is why I take your nonsense with a grain of salt as you obviously have little understanding of what that actually means.

May the Lord’s Peace be with you.


7 posted on 12/25/2012 8:42:34 AM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: wintertime; Gabz; SoftballMominVA; metmom
May God save our nation and watch over and protect our children from evil. I pray in Jesus name. Amen,

Were the school principal and psychologist evil when they ran TOWARD the gun fire? Were the teachers that used their own bodies as human shields to protect their students evil?

Metmom; wintertime will offer his usual "Please don't contact me for the rest of the thread response", so could you please answer the above questions.

8 posted on 12/25/2012 9:05:44 AM PST by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: verga

Merry Christmas, Verga!!! A Blessed day to you and your family and a wonderful coming New Year.

As to your questions - I will with hold my idea of what an answer would be from that quarter, only because I believe you will get none.


9 posted on 12/25/2012 9:29:22 AM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: verga

I politely and respectfully request that you not send pings or private e-mail to me for the remainder of this thread. If you feel the need to comment on my posts or use my name please do so, but do not contact me.
Very politely and respectfully,

Wintertime


10 posted on 12/25/2012 9:36:44 AM PST by wintertime
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To: verga; wintertime
WintertimeMay God save our nation and watch over and protect our children from evil. I pray in Jesus name. Amen,

Verga's question: Were the school principal and psychologist evil when they ran TOWARD the gun fire? Were the teachers that used their own bodies as human shields to protect their students evil?

Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.

How is protecting children evil? How is giving your life to save others evil?

11 posted on 12/25/2012 9:41:31 AM PST by Hope for the Republic (The 1st amendment is protected by the 2nd amendment)
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To: wintertime; verga; metmom
I politely and respectfully request that you not send pings or private e-mail to me for the remainder of this thread. If you feel the need to comment on my posts or use my name please do so, but do not contact me. Very politely and respectfully, Wintertime

Wow Verga you nailed it.

12 posted on 12/25/2012 9:43:47 AM PST by Hope for the Republic (The 1st amendment is protected by the 2nd amendment)
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To: Hope for the Republic

Personally, I think it is evil for the government to treat children like prisoners. At least those who are occupying hard core prisons committed a crime. The only crime children have committed was to be born.

Individual acts of charity ( meaning the true love of Christ) are found throughout life from the darkest dungeons to the loftiest and most comfortable levels of society, including our government’s K-12 indoctrination centers. It should always be commended wherever found.

I suspect, though, that if one looked hard enough some isolated acts of charity by employees or workers might even be found an abortion center or Nazi concentration camp. These acts of charity do NOT justify the continuation of evil institutions.

By the way,....This is Christmas. Why are some letting me live in their heads? Don’t they have something better to do?


13 posted on 12/25/2012 9:57:19 AM PST by wintertime
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To: Hope for the Republic

Re: Calling evil good

It is evil to call treating children like prisoner good.


14 posted on 12/25/2012 9:58:46 AM PST by wintertime
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To: Hope for the Republic

wintertime has been requesting that for some time now.

verga has been ignoring it.

Nothing special there as far as *nailing it*.


15 posted on 12/25/2012 9:59:53 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Hope for the Republic; wintertime; verga

wintertime has been requesting that for some time now.

verga has been ignoring it.

Nothing special there as far as *nailing it*.


16 posted on 12/25/2012 10:00:19 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Hope for the Republic

One more thing came to mind about evil and good.

It is evil to force children into godless K-12 indoctrination camps, force them to think and reason godlessly ( they must just to cooperate) and then call this evil “good”.


17 posted on 12/25/2012 10:01:26 AM PST by wintertime
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To: Gabz
Hi Gabz Merry Christmas back to you and your family and a victorious New Year.

I did notice that neither one really answered the question.

I also noticed that wintertime resorted to the liberal tactic of comparing schools to Nazi concentration camps. Clearly a violation of Godwin's Law and a victory (again) for me.

18 posted on 12/25/2012 10:10:13 AM PST by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: Gabz

1) Where did Christ preach that government should force Christian Christmas hymns on state captives ( Christian or not) in government K-12 schools, and force all citizens ( Christian and non-Christians ) to pay for it? When did this become the Christian thing to teach children?

2) At best, any Christianity that school administrators manage to sneak through the godless cracks will be lukewarm and generic. What does Christ do with the lukewarm? He spits them out of His mouth! Also....The kids aren’t stupid. The lesson taught is that Christians are sneaky.


19 posted on 12/25/2012 10:10:15 AM PST by wintertime
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To: wintertime

Amen. Merry Christmas everyone. I am cooking up a storm over here! : )

To all our non-Chrsitian friends here, I love you. Bless you and may you live in devine mercy, love and joy within you and within everyone who touches you.


20 posted on 12/25/2012 10:15:40 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: wintertime

You are a disgusting piece of humanity. And you are also a liar, as shown in your statement #1 - and never said any such thing and you just made it up out of whole cloth - which is no different than the marxist leftist media.

And YES this is a personal attack because I am just finally sick and tired of your veiled personal attacks on those of us who do NOT march lock step with your evil ways and yes your attitudes are pure evil.

Do with this post as you will - I do not care, as the truth of my statement calling you a liar has been proven time and time again and will be proven time and time again.

As you have been told repeatedly - there is NO sneaking of God into public schools in Virginia.


21 posted on 12/25/2012 10:33:16 AM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: verga

Thank you, my friend.

I am probably not long for here after my latest post to that cretin, but I no longer care. I refuse to idly sit by and allow the lies to go unanswered and called for the lies they are.

Wintertme loves to accuse others of Alinsky tactics, but in the true Alinsky/liberal style, she accuses others of exactly that of which she is doing.

As soon as I post this I’m going to send you FReepmail.


22 posted on 12/25/2012 10:39:40 AM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: verga; Gabz; metmom

By their fruits you shall know them.


23 posted on 12/25/2012 11:10:20 AM PST by SoftballMominVA
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To: Gabz

Schools are reflective of their communities. You and I both live in conservtive districts peopled with Christians. Of course our schools will not have God ‘sneaked’ in.

However, others refuse to see the truth. Guess they are just sort of sad.

Merry Christmas my friend


24 posted on 12/25/2012 11:13:39 AM PST by SoftballMominVA
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To: SoftballMominVA

Merry Christmas, my friend!

I treat those who refuse to see truth, even when handed to them on a silver platter (or shoved in their face) no differently than I treat liberals - with the contempt they deserve. And you know me well enough to know I do not tolerate liars of any stripe, but particularly liars who claim to be conservatives.


25 posted on 12/25/2012 11:29:30 AM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: SoftballMominVA; Gabz; wintertime; metmom; Hope for the Republic
Schools are reflective of their communities. You and I both live in conservative districts peopled with Christians. Of course our schools will not have God ‘sneaked’ in. However, others refuse to see the truth. Guess they are just sort of sad.

Yeah these kids really look like they are being tortured and abused. No I am not going to tell you which one of the rhythmically challenged teachers is me.

For the record all rehearsal for this was done on our own time, while the performance was done during the school day during our winter sports assembly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcTGYHRzqM0

26 posted on 12/25/2012 12:25:03 PM PST by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: verga

Please remove my name from your ping list.

Respectfully and politely,

Wintertime


27 posted on 12/25/2012 1:10:52 PM PST by wintertime
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To: wintertime; verga

Why should anyone treat you either respectfully or politely? You refuse to accord anyone who disagrees with your positions with either respect or politeness. In fact, you show neither to ANYONE who disagrees with you.

In fact, you are quite demanding of those who disagree with you, and yet refuse to answer simple questions posed to by those same people.

So tell me, please - why should anyone even think to treat you either respectfully or politely?


28 posted on 12/25/2012 1:51:48 PM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Gabz

You are doing this on Christmas Day?

My husband and I are sitting laughing and laughing! Wow! :-)

And...A Merry Ho! Ho! Ho! to you, too! :-)


29 posted on 12/25/2012 1:54:28 PM PST by wintertime
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To: Gabz
Gabz,

What should I do? Request that a person remove my name from a ping list in a disrespectful and impolite way? Really? Did you learn this in government school?

30 posted on 12/25/2012 1:56:43 PM PST by wintertime
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To: wintertime

As my husband and I are laughing at you -— just as we always do when you post your outlandish lies.

Actually, you are the one that posted the evil on Christmas Day — so terribly sorry you have a problem being called out on it. Liars do hate having that done to them - just like the liberals they are.


31 posted on 12/25/2012 2:03:39 PM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: wintertime

You vile idiot............YES THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE.

YOU are the product of government schools - by your own words -not me. I suggest you look into yourself (you have neither heart nor soul, so I won’t suggest looking into either) to find who has the problem with being disrespectful and impolite.


32 posted on 12/25/2012 2:06:48 PM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Gabz
Gabz.....It's a game!

As people drive by certain types of buildings they can amuse themselves by guessing whether it is a school or prison.

They can even enrich the game by checking to see, if it is a school, whether the school uses the godless expression, “Winter Break” , instead of the name of our national holiday, Christmas.

Gee! Lighten up!

33 posted on 12/25/2012 2:10:05 PM PST by wintertime
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To: Gabz
There are quite a few of these “School or Prison” videos on Youtube. Some are quite funny. I'll post them occasionally over the next few weeks. It should be fun for those with a sense of humor.
34 posted on 12/25/2012 2:15:13 PM PST by wintertime
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To: wintertime

Bravo Sierra - the only game here is being played by you in your seeking to find anyway you can to attack those who disagree with you and you revel in it -— and totally hate it it when you are shown to be wrong.......

I told you the message from my school district and you IGNORED what I said - typical Alinsky tactic. Oh so conservative of you to only accept your own view and ignore the truth of the experience of others.

BTW - the only buildings in this county that look like prisons are the prisons and the rural heath clinics. Of course you will never believe anything I say because my world view does not agree with your Alinsky world view - but that is your problem, not mine.


35 posted on 12/25/2012 3:08:08 PM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Gabz
Here it is again. I am not ignoring you.

1) Where did Christ preach that government should force Christian Christmas hymns on state captives ( Christian or not) in government K-12 schools, and force all citizens ( Christian and non-Christians ) to pay for it? When did this become the Christian thing to teach children?

2) At best, any Christianity that school administrators manage to sneak through the godless cracks will be lukewarm and generic. What does Christ do with the lukewarm? He spits them out of His mouth! Also....The kids aren’t stupid. The lesson taught is that Christians are sneaky.

36 posted on 12/25/2012 3:19:37 PM PST by wintertime
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To: wintertime

I don’t do youtube or whatever it is - and if you find it amusing, I know for a fact it it is absolutely NOT as you do not understand the concept of humor, as you have repeatedly proven.

Look, lady - we all know you hate public schools, except when they are convenient for you, however you are going to have to face the reality that much of what you post consists of out right lies. One of these days you are going to have to face that reality or accept the fact you are going to be called a liar - which calls into question EVERYTHING you may have to say on any subject.

Because of your continuous lies on the subject of public schools, I personally trust nothing you say here on Free Republic. Being known as a serial liar is not a good thing around here - just look at how FReepers look at folks like Obambi and Billie Jeff or his wife —— yup, that is the category I place you in...........


37 posted on 12/25/2012 3:22:43 PM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: wintertime

LIAR


38 posted on 12/25/2012 3:23:41 PM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Gabz
So.....Specifically, what denomination of Christianity is preached in your county's school and woven seamlessly throughout the entire day, all of the textbooks,curriculum, and school policies and minute to minute traditions of the school? ( Just wondering.) .

If there is no specific denomination established, and if Christianity and Christ's Salvation is not presiding focus of all that is done in the school, then the conclusion must be made that the Christian worldview that the government establishes in your county is generic and lukewarm.

Likely lessons learned by the students:

1) Christians are lukewarm and generic about their faith.

2) Christians are bullies who force children ( both Christian and non-Christian) into government prison-like institutions and then force Christian indoctrination on them. ( I have never seen this in the Bible.)

3) Christians have no problem forming a voting mob that forces citizens ( Christian and non-Christian) to pay for the religious indoctrination that they might find abominable. ( I haven't seen this in the Bible, either.)

So....If the children aren't learning that Christians are sneaky, they are likely learning that Christians are generic and lukewarm about their faith and bullying voting mob that has not qualms about crushing the freedom of conscience and First Amendment Rights of others.

39 posted on 12/25/2012 3:31:48 PM PST by wintertime
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To: Gabz
Well.....You are absolutely right about hate. I hate evil.

It is evil that our nation's children are forced into godless schools and forced by the government to think and reason godlessly. They must just to cooperate in the classroom., do their godless assignments, and read their godless texts.

I is evil that government herds children into prison-like buildings and treats them in many ways like prisoners. These children risk learning to be comfortable prisoners of the state.

I is evil that government runs indoctrination centers that can NOT be politically, culturally, or religiously neutral because NO school is!

I evil that the government forces citizens, who are under considerable police and court threat if they refuse, to pay for the godless and politically and culturally biased indoctrination of captive children.

I is evil that the government trashes the First Amendment Rights of children in its indoctrination centers because the children risk learning to be comfortable with the government crushing their human rights.

I evil that our government runs a system of socialist-entitlement, single-payer, and compulsory-use schools in which children risk learning to be comfortable with socialism and government compulsion.

It is evil for people to promote, support, and establish the evil described above. Good people are doing all they can ( peacefully and legally ) to move our nation toward a system of private education.

One more thing: Ideas are the most powerful things in the world.

Here's an idea: It is EVIL to force children into godless, socialist-entitlement and prison-like centers to be indoctrinated by the government and the voting mob who controls it. It is evil to force citizens to pay for this abomination.

40 posted on 12/25/2012 3:48:54 PM PST by wintertime
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To: Hope for the Republic

-— How is protecting children evil? How is giving your life to save others evil? ——

Who said they were?

Their heroic actions don’t contradict the evil of forcing the children of religious parents into essentially godless institutions (or to fund godless institutions) in violation of the free exercise clause of the first amendment and the natural right of parents to determine their children’s education.


41 posted on 12/25/2012 4:15:11 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: wintertime

Do not even think to preach your own vileness to me - which is even more evil than what you claim to be against.

You are no better than that evil POS that is sitting in the White and elected by those that advocate the attacking of those who disagree with them..........just like you.

Oh bother - I’ve wasted far too much time on you - oysters on the half shell, just 2 hours out of the water, are FAR, FAR more important than cretins such as yourself.

Enjoy your ugly life.


42 posted on 12/25/2012 4:25:52 PM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
Who said they were?

Wintertime did because she claims pubic school teachers only do evil and never do good. Operative word here is NEVER.

Wintertime is the one promoting the evil, not FReepers who are public school teachers or parents of children that attend public schools.

We are NOT evil - she is.

43 posted on 12/25/2012 4:30:30 PM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Gabz

—— Wintertime did because she claims pubic school teachers only do evil and never do good. -——

I’ve read her posts, and her position is that teachers are proximate causes of evil.

In my estimation, their degree of cooperation with evil is arguable, being somewhere between remote and proximate.

At the very least, it’s an argument worth having.


44 posted on 12/25/2012 4:39:02 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: Gabz
Wintertime did because she claims pubic school teachers only do evil and never do good. Operative word here is NEVER. ( Gabz)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Gee! Gabz, I suppose you missed the following. It includes teachers in government schools.

“Individual acts of charity ( meaning the true love of Christ) are found throughout life from the darkest dungeons to the loftiest and most comfortable levels of society, including our government’s K-12 indoctrination centers. It should always be commended wherever found.”

“I suspect, though, that if one looked hard enough some isolated acts of charity by employees or workers might even be found an abortion center or Nazi concentration camp. These acts of charity do NOT justify the continuation of evil institutions.”

45 posted on 12/25/2012 4:46:55 PM PST by wintertime
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To: GaltTrader

Ping


46 posted on 12/25/2012 4:50:26 PM PST by wintertime
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
At the very least, it’s an argument worth having.

No, it is not. There is no argument.

You and I may have a discussion about the subject, but according to wintertime anyone teaching in a public school or who willing has a child or children attending one is evil and she brooks no comment otherwise.

I have been here far longer than she has been and in real life have debated far too many liberals far more intelligent and with far more coherent arguments than she has ever mustered to even bother taking her seriously.

47 posted on 12/25/2012 4:54:55 PM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: wintertime

Weasel words - as per the alinskyite you are.

Oh, I read it and saw right through it - you may think you are oh so smart, but I hate to tell you lady, but you don’t even hold a candle to the average bear.


48 posted on 12/25/2012 5:04:04 PM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: verga

“Were the school principal and psychologist evil when they ran TOWARD the gun fire?”

One would hope that they were fulfilling Christ’s admonition to “love your neighbor as yourself”.

That being said, the government school system promotes humanism, a system in which there are no objective morals.

Mass school shootings are one product (albeit an rare one, at least at present) of the government school system. Others include illiteracy (and other consequences of poor education), introduction to illegal drug use, teen pregnancy...But worst of all, and according the to last Barna survey I read, the large majority of children of Christians who enter the government school system with a Christian worldview, leave with a secular humanist worldview at the time of graduation.

All government school teachers and administrators have some sort of role in the creation of these “products”.

BTW, You still haven’t explained how it is that a Christian such as myself would go about getting the Bible into the classroom after being elected to my local school board. I’m thinking of reminding you about that every time I decide to respond to one of your posts. This is the third time I have brought it up to you. The first time, you feigned ignorance.

Merry Christmas (belated).


49 posted on 12/25/2012 9:33:45 PM PST by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: SecAmndmt
BTW, You still haven’t explained how it is that a Christian such as myself would go about getting the Bible into the classroom after being elected to my local school board. I’m thinking of reminding you about that every time I decide to respond to one of your posts. This is the third time I have brought it up to you. The first time, you feigned ignorance.

Or perhaps i didn't see it the first time.

I jsut got back into town, but before I left I saw a blurb about a man that is getting "God" brought back into the school system thqt he is living in. As i said and you seemed to have ignored. You need to get enough people to agree with you and support your plan. offer a Bible as hstory class, or a Chrsitian awareness class. Once public opinion is in your favor ionch by incgh the pendulum will swing the other way. It took years for it to swing to the left. Ayers is right you need to mobilize the troops. Walking away lets them win.

Now ask Metmom and wintertime what their plan is.

50 posted on 12/27/2012 8:38:49 AM PST by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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