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Triple Lutz Report--Boehner Helped Cost Republicans The 2012 Elections…Good Riddance
Financial Survival Network ^ | 12/24/2012 | Kerry Lutz

Posted on 12/26/2012 7:41:22 AM PST by appeal2

All the mainstream country club “Bow Tie” Republicans are shaking their heads and wondering. “What went wrong?” The answer is really as simple as it is overlooked. In 2010, Republicans were swept into control of the House of Representatives and were within a stone’s throw of Senate control. Were it not for a few candidates who did themselves in as well as being done in by the establishment republican types, there may well have been a tied senate. Just two years later, Obama is re-elected and the Republicans lose ground in the House and Senate. What on earth happened?

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: boehner; election; loser; taxes
Boehner is always referred to as a conservative. But his actions bespeak an entirely different affiliation.
1 posted on 12/26/2012 7:41:40 AM PST by appeal2
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To: appeal2

Bonehead has to go.

Period.


2 posted on 12/26/2012 7:45:33 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: appeal2

The problem was that no one was clampiong down on voter fraud

THIS ELECTION WAS STOLEN


3 posted on 12/26/2012 7:46:48 AM PST by Mr. K (There are lies, dammed lies, statistics, and democrap talking points.)
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To: appeal2

What happened in the Senate was Romney won Missouri and Indiana easily but Mourdock and Akin shot themselves in the foot. Plus Snowe retired and Scott Brown lost in a really red state for minus 4. We should have won FL but did not have a good senate candidate. We should have won WI, why I don’t know. We should have won ND, why I don’t know.

Romney got sunk by Chris Christie, Hurricane Sandy, and by his 47% remark and with spillover help from Mourdock and Akin.


4 posted on 12/26/2012 7:48:19 AM PST by staytrue
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To: staytrue

Romney also won in MT but Tester got reelected. Akin and Mourdock may have shot themselves in the foot, but the establishment candidates in ND, MT, VA, and WV underperformed Romney in those states. We need better candidates.


5 posted on 12/26/2012 7:58:52 AM PST by kabar
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To: kabar
We need better candidates.

How can a guy running for the senate fumble the abortion question? I mean even a casual Rush listener like myself knew that Journ0list Stephanopolus revealed the "war on women" agenda back in January at the first Republican primary debate.

Q: What's your position on abortion in the case of rape?

A: Let me get this right...you want to spare the lives of convicted murderers, and murder innocent pre-born children? BANG !! NEXT QUESTION !!

6 posted on 12/26/2012 8:04:38 AM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: Mr. K

“The problem was that no one was clamping down on voter fraud

THIS ELECTION WAS STOLEN”.......and the SOB’s are NOT even making an issue of the multiple bizarre instances of voter fraud along the way, to bolster their arguments for cleaning it up in ‘14 and ‘16. Our supposed leaders don’t help us, they just foster a climate of helplessness for Conservatives. gag me


7 posted on 12/26/2012 8:08:33 AM PST by stickywillie (God Bless Lord Monckton)
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To: appeal2

Agreed Boehner is a loser as are most of the so-called pubbie leaders in the congress. It is time for a third party.


8 posted on 12/26/2012 8:12:49 AM PST by kenmcg (scapegoat)
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To: appeal2
"“What went wrong?”"

The House upped the debt ceiling.

9 posted on 12/26/2012 8:23:40 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: appeal2

I agree completely...and I am not a major boehner hater. He’s ways bed a good congressman but is a terrible Speaker.

His approach last year gave Obama the upper hand on the message for the past year. It became about tax cuts for the rich instead of a discussion on spending.


10 posted on 12/26/2012 8:30:43 AM PST by ilgipper (Obama supporters are comprised of the uninformed & the ill-informed)
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To: appeal2
The "party system" works against libertarian values and goals and works in favor of the socialists because political parties, like the government bureaucracies that libertarians want to dismantle, revolve around their own politics and self perpetuation - what's best for America takes a back seat.

I hate the GOP almost as much as the DEMOgoguebureauCRAT socialist PARTY. How do lovers of freedom and the Constitution win the day outside the corrupt party system? I have no idea.

Maybe the only answer is the return of Jesus Christ who will be the political leader of the whole world. Unlike the socialists regimes and dictatorial tyrants who will have preceded him, Jesus Christ, the "Prince of Peace", will set the world free from tyranny as he has set countless millions and trillions of individuals free from personal bondage and oppression.

Man coming to the end of himself and his failed regimes needs to realize and acknowledge his desperate need for God. The ultimate lesson of mans' sad history of political oppression and misery including the failure of America to sustain its own Constitutional freedoms, is that man, apart form God, is a miserable failure and utterly unable to rule himself, much less others.

11 posted on 12/26/2012 8:39:31 AM PST by PapaNew
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To: appeal2

Well... no fan of Boehner here, but it wasn’t he who pushed Todd Akin and Richard Mourdock to incinerate their candidacies with tone-deaf comments about rape, losing two Senate contests that had been slam-dunks for the Repubs.


12 posted on 12/26/2012 8:40:56 AM PST by ScottinVA (More dizzying than a Tilt-a-Whirl is an around-a-circle argument with a liberal about gun control.)
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To: appeal2

I absolutely despise Nancy Pelosi and everything she stands for.

BUT...

I have grudging admiration for her willingness to lead her side’s fight to gain control of the narrative. None of the leading Repubs — least of all Boehner — have her ability or willingness to attack on all fronts. They would be well-served by watching and learning the dems’ tactics. They play for keeps... the GOPers are just happy to be on the field of play.


13 posted on 12/26/2012 8:47:41 AM PST by ScottinVA (More dizzying than a Tilt-a-Whirl is an around-a-circle argument with a liberal about gun control.)
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To: ScottinVA

They play for keeps = The dems play for keeps


14 posted on 12/26/2012 8:50:01 AM PST by ScottinVA (More dizzying than a Tilt-a-Whirl is an around-a-circle argument with a liberal about gun control.)
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To: ScottinVA

you nailed it

I wish Boehner has as big a pair as Pelosi- we would all be getting a tax refund

Or at least Gingrich. HE ACTUALLY balanced the budget (with CLINTON in office, too)


15 posted on 12/26/2012 8:51:46 AM PST by Mr. K (There are lies, dammed lies, statistics, and democrap talking points.)
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To: kenmcg
Brilliant, absolutely brilliant. How do you think adding another "third party" is going to gain anything? It won't, it will make matters worse. Now, instead of only needing to defeat Democrats, we'll also need to defeat Republicans or the "third party".

This is a really, really stupid idea. It cannot be done--it's not possible. We already have about 40 so-called "third parties". Thank all those "third party" voters in MN, they are the ones responsible for Obamacare. There definitely was voter fraud in the MN senate race but if those 3,000 voters had voted for Coleman instead of whoever they voted for, we wouldn't be in this fix.

16 posted on 12/26/2012 8:57:20 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: staytrue
Romney got sunk by Chris Christie, Hurricane Sandy, by his 47% remark and targeted vote fraud.

That's it, right there.
17 posted on 12/26/2012 8:57:45 AM PST by 98ZJ USMC
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To: Mr. K

We’ve got to do better than Boehner... Louie Gohmert from TX would be a good choice, IMO.


18 posted on 12/26/2012 8:59:31 AM PST by ScottinVA (More dizzying than a Tilt-a-Whirl is an around-a-circle argument with a liberal about gun control.)
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To: ScottinVA
I have grudging admiration for her willingness to lead her side’s fight to gain control of the narrative. None of the leading Repubs — least of all Boehner — have her ability or willingness to attack on all fronts.

Real easy to do when the entire media conglomerate (including crappy, schizophrenic FoxNews)is on your side, the schools have been producing ever more indoctrinated zombies and your "message" appeals to emotion only. Appealing to "gimme, gimme, gimme" teenagers as Mom is simple compared to having to be Dad and say:.......No!
19 posted on 12/26/2012 9:07:24 AM PST by 98ZJ USMC
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To: appeal2

Boner funding Obamacare and keeping the spending at hyper speed for his K street pals / Beltway bandits kept the base at home on Election Day !
Boner was given the house to stop Obamacare funding but funded it so his real base the DC lobbyists could keep there funding !

The base was sold out by Boner and they stayed home !
Boner needs to be REMOVED !
Boner killed the voter enthusiasm
In 2012 !


20 posted on 12/26/2012 9:29:31 AM PST by ncalburt (Axelrod Psych OPS has gone to 24/7 non stop - "The election is over " status until Nov)
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To: appeal2

Boner funding Obamacare and keeping the spending at hyper speed for his K street pals / Beltway bandits kept the base at home on Election Day !
Boner was given the house to stop Obamacare funding but funded it so his real base the DC lobbyists could keep there funding !

The base was sold out by Boner and they stayed home !
Boner needs to be REMOVED !
Boner killed the voter enthusiasm
In 2012 !


21 posted on 12/26/2012 9:30:12 AM PST by ncalburt (Axelrod Psych OPS has gone to 24/7 non stop - "The election is over " status until Nov)
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To: appeal2

Boner funding Obamacare and keeping the spending at hyper speed for his K street pals / Beltway bandits kept the base at home on Election Day !
Boner was given the house to stop Obamacare funding but funded it so his real base the DC lobbyists could keep there funding !

The base was sold out by Boner and they stayed home !
Boner needs to be REMOVED !
Boner killed the voter enthusiasm
In 2012 !


22 posted on 12/26/2012 9:30:12 AM PST by ncalburt (Axelrod Psych OPS has gone to 24/7 non stop - "The election is over " status until Nov)
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To: appeal2

Boner funding Obamacare and keeping the spending at hyper speed for his K street pals / Beltway bandits kept the base at home on Election Day !
Boner was given the house to stop Obamacare funding but funded it so his real base the DC lobbyists could keep there funding !

The base was sold out by Boner and they stayed home !
Boner needs to be REMOVED !
Boner killed the voter enthusiasm
In 2012 !


23 posted on 12/26/2012 9:30:12 AM PST by ncalburt (Axelrod Psych OPS has gone to 24/7 non stop - "The election is over " status until Nov)
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To: appeal2

Boner funding Obamacare and keeping the spending at hyper speed for his K street pals / Beltway bandits kept the base at home on Election Day !
Boner was given the house to stop Obamacare funding but funded it so his real base the DC lobbyists could keep there funding !

The base was sold out by Boner and they stayed home !
Boner needs to be REMOVED !
Boner killed the voter enthusiasm
In 2012 !


24 posted on 12/26/2012 9:30:24 AM PST by ncalburt (Axelrod Psych OPS has gone to 24/7 non stop - "The election is over " status until Nov)
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To: PapaNew

Jesus was no libertarian, the party and philosophy for homosexual marriage advocates, pimps, porn kings, drug dealers and abortionists.


25 posted on 12/26/2012 10:37:28 AM PST by ansel12 (Romney--guns not for recreation or self-defense"sole purpose of hunting down and killing people".)
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To: ansel12
Jesus and I are not Libertarians, but we're both libertarians. We both believe in liberty (not necessarily license), but also that what you do is between you and God, not the government, as long you don't interfere with anothers' liberty.
26 posted on 12/26/2012 10:44:24 AM PST by PapaNew
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To: PapaNew

You are one sick puppy to claim Jesus as a lefty libertarian promoting abortion and homosexuality, which is what you do when you get on the internet and promote “libertarianism”.


27 posted on 12/26/2012 11:22:57 AM PST by ansel12 (Romney--guns not for recreation or self-defense"sole purpose of hunting down and killing people".)
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To: ansel12
Who said anything about promoting abortion and homosexuality? Jumping to conclusions again. I already said I'm not espousing some party platform nor did I say ANYTHING about promoting sin and perversion.

You're shooting first and [not] asking questions later.

28 posted on 12/26/2012 12:44:03 PM PST by PapaNew
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To: PapaNew

The difference between a conservative and a libertarian is not economics, it is abortion and the homosexual agenda and social issues.

It is bizarre to go out in public and promote libertarianism in the name of Jesus.


29 posted on 12/26/2012 12:55:07 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney--guns not for recreation or self-defense"sole purpose of hunting down and killing people".)
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To: staytrue
Based on my personal experience the Akin fiasco hurt the Republicans and definitely hurt Romney. Up until that time I had a number of friends who had planned to vote R, specifically for Romney. After Akin made his statement they flat out refused.

What on earth possessed Akin to say what he did? Everybody knows the story of Genghis Khan and his millions of descedents. Obviously wishing away pregnancy after rape didn't work for all those women

30 posted on 12/26/2012 1:09:11 PM PST by ladyjane (For the first time in my life I am not proud of my country.)
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To: ansel12

Apparently you seem to be having trouble telling the difference between favoring freedom of choice and advocating the wrong choices. Since the beginning, God gave man free choice, even to sin. Does that mean He advocated sin?


31 posted on 12/26/2012 1:31:49 PM PST by PapaNew
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To: PapaNew

If you are against abortion, then fight it politically and in every other way, do not get on the internet and promote a political position to people, to accept abortion as a choice, as something that should be legal, and never do that in the name of Jesus, Jesus was no libertarian.


32 posted on 12/26/2012 2:10:41 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney--guns not for recreation or self-defense"sole purpose of hunting down and killing people".)
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To: ansel12
We're not getting anywhere ansel. You seem to take great pleasure in ill-founded accusation. You're running a circular argument and really are not making much sense. I've stated where you're wrong about what I'm saying and the words I am using. The word "libertarian" does not mean what you say or imply. It's not a party and it doesn't mean advocating destructive or perverse behavior.

I think I'll get off the circular argument merry-go-round with you.

33 posted on 12/26/2012 2:25:42 PM PST by PapaNew
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To: PapaNew

What is going on is that you are ignoring your own position, which is typical of libertarians.

You promote the politics of abortion and the homosexual agenda, conservatives do not, nor would Jesus. Even Ted Kennedy or Obama or (libertarian) Bill Maher can say ‘I am personally opposed, but’.

By the way, the lib party IS libertarianism, it is where the fantasy has to deal with actual politics, rather than playing word games.


34 posted on 12/26/2012 2:45:04 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney--guns not for recreation or self-defense"sole purpose of hunting down and killing people".)
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To: ansel12

OK, I’ll try one more time with you. Did God give man free choice?


35 posted on 12/26/2012 2:54:10 PM PST by PapaNew
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To: PapaNew

Yes he did, and he we know that he is disappointed in your political activism.

Different people approach promoting abortion and the homosexual agenda in different ways, using the title “libertarian” instead of “leftist activist” is one of them.


36 posted on 12/26/2012 3:05:19 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney--guns not for recreation or self-defense"sole purpose of hunting down and killing people".)
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To: ansel12

OK, you agree God gave man free choice. Now, does God advocate sinning?


37 posted on 12/26/2012 3:09:15 PM PST by PapaNew
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To: PapaNew

You tell me, you are the one actively promoting the libertarian agenda in politics in the name of Jesus.

Libertarian Party Platform:

Homosexuals; total freedom in the military, gay marriage, adoption, child custody and everything else.

Abortion; zero restrictions or impediments.

Pornography; no restraint, no restrictions.

Drugs; Meth, Heroin, Crack, and anything new that science can come up with, zero restrictions.

Advertising those drugs, prostitution, and pornography; zero restrictions.


38 posted on 12/26/2012 3:30:14 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney--guns not for recreation or self-defense"sole purpose of hunting down and killing people".)
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To: PapaNew

What precisely are “libertarian values and goals”?

By “libertarian” do you mean as in the Libertarian Party Platform?


39 posted on 12/26/2012 3:39:35 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: ansel12
Ansel, pay attention. Go back and read what I’ve already posted. I’m not talking about the Libertarian Party, talking about libertarian defined as 1) an advocate of the doctrine of free will; 2) a person who upholds the principles of individual liberty especially of thought and action.

Now, you haven’t answered my second question. You agree God gave man free choice no do right and wrong, so does God advocate sinning?

40 posted on 12/26/2012 7:13:16 PM PST by PapaNew
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To: ansel12
Ansel, pay attention. Go back and read what I’ve already posted. I’m not talking about the Libertarian Party, I'm talking about libertarian defined as 1) an advocate of the doctrine of free will; 2) a person who upholds the principles of individual liberty especially of thought and action.

Now, you haven’t answered my second question. You agree God gave man free choice to do right and wrong, so does God advocate sinning?

41 posted on 12/26/2012 7:15:08 PM PST by PapaNew
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To: PapaNew

The party is libertarianism, except outside of the ivory towers and where the rubber meets the road.

Libertarians formed a party and it reflects libertarianism.


42 posted on 12/26/2012 7:27:50 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney--guns not for recreation or self-defense"sole purpose of hunting down and killing people".)
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To: little jeremiah
What precisely are “libertarian values and goals”?

A "libertarian" is defined "as a person who upholds the principles of individual liberty especially of thought and action." (Merriam-webster.com.) I'm a libertarian, which is a one-word way of saying I'm a lover of freedom. I believe in limited Constitutional government. I believe in capitalism and an economy and market free of government interference. I think that's basically what the Tea Party is.

As far as “libertarian values and goals”, I can't speak precisely for others in the Tea Party and elsewhere who love freedom, but my values and goals include reducing government back to its Constitutionally delegated limits as much as possible at this late date and giving powers not Constitutionally delegated to the Federal Government back to "the states and people respectively" (10th Amendment). That's a good start and basically addresses the heart of our political and economic problems right now. Basically, if I could, I'd give this country back to the American People.

By “libertarian” do you mean as in the Libertarian Party Platform

No. I really know very little about the Libertarian Party, so I can't speak for it or against it. As I began with my first post on this thread, I think the party system has shown itself to be inherently corrupt and has failed to deliver the kinds of ideals, values, and candidates America needs.

43 posted on 12/26/2012 7:36:02 PM PST by PapaNew
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To: PapaNew
No. I really know very little about the Libertarian Party, so I can't speak for it or against it.

You keep saying the same vague nothing over and over, yet claiming Jesus as a libertarian, the Libertarian party speaks for you, you should make an effort to find out something about them and what the goals of libertarians are, and why Bill Maher and David Letterman, and Noam Chomsky, are all libertarians. Jesus is not one.

44 posted on 12/26/2012 9:29:18 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney--guns not for recreation or self-defense"sole purpose of hunting down and killing people".)
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To: ansel12

You don’t know what you’re talking about. You’ve totally ignored what I’ve said beginning with my opening statement about the party system missing the mark including your Libertarian Party and you still haven’t answered my question.


45 posted on 12/27/2012 6:09:52 AM PST by PapaNew
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To: PapaNew

Again you said nothing, libertarians formed a party to promote libertarianism, and you admit that you don’t know much about that or them.

You don’t seem to know much about libertarianism, and that is why you think that Jesus was a libertarian and don’t seem interested in the fact that Noam Chomsky, Bill Maher, and David Letterman are libertarians, while Jesus is not a libertarian.

Jesus is a social conservative who would prefer that we vote as social conservatives, not for abortion “rights” and “homosexual marriage” etc.

On this thread you have made clear that you are for the libertarian agenda.

Sodom and Gomorrah, had plenty of libertarian and liberal types, what it was lacking, was conservatives.


46 posted on 12/27/2012 12:56:49 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney--guns not for recreation or self-defense"sole purpose of hunting down and killing people".)
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To: ansel12

Ansel, you’re still not paying attention and still haven’t answered my question.


47 posted on 12/27/2012 5:19:20 PM PST by PapaNew
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