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Gun Control: Ask Shooting Victim's Mom: Trayvon's mom talks about issue in wake of Newtown
The Root ^ | December 18, 2012 | Edward Wyckoff Williams

Posted on 01/01/2013 1:18:57 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

America the beautiful, with all its celebration of democratic freedoms, has become a place where children are gunned down in their first-grade classrooms, and teenagers are killed walking home with Skittles and iced tea.

The latest blight on the nation's social consciousness is a massacre of unconscionable proportion: A lone gunman, identified as 20-year-old Adam Lanza, entered a Connecticut elementary school last week and used a semi-automatic rifle to unleash carnage by killing 20 children, all age 6 or 7, and six adults -- schoolteachers and staff. Lanza had killed his own mother in her home, reportedly shooting her in the face, before traveling to the school.

This follows a series of similar tragedies: from the 2010 shooting outside a Safeway in Tuscon, Ariz., to the Dark Knight movie theater killings in Colorado, the massacre at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin -- and eerily familiar stories in Oregon, Washington and California.

The common denominator? Guns.

The recent shootings in Newtown, Conn., have prompted heated conversation about America's firearms obsession. The country seems to have a love affair with guns -- and it is the most vulnerable among us who all too often pay the price.

Sybrina Fulton, mother of slain teenager Trayvon Martin -- whose death at the hands of unofficial neighborhood watchman George Zimmerman caused a national uproar -- spoke exclusively to The Root following the Newtown school massacre. "I feel bad for the families of these little boys and girls," she said. "The parents have a long road of healing ahead."(continued)

(Excerpt) Read more at theroot.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Politics
KEYWORDS: banglist; newtown; sandyhook; trayvon; zimmerman
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1 posted on 01/01/2013 1:19:03 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
...and used a semi-automatic rifle to unleash carnage...

I seem to recall that Lanza used a pistol for all the killings. Does anyone know if he used the Bushmaster to do any killings?

2 posted on 01/01/2013 1:24:30 PM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

3 posted on 01/01/2013 1:25:27 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: 17th Miss Regt

The stories said they found the Bushmaster in his trunk.
But we don’t need no steenkin facts.


4 posted on 01/01/2013 1:27:02 PM PST by shelterguy
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To: shelterguy

Chief Med examiner said all from a rifle.xcept the one to his noggin


5 posted on 01/01/2013 1:28:41 PM PST by CGASMIA68
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thug-life wanna-bes should be able to beat down Neighborhood Watch folks with impunity. How dare they arm themselves and fight back...


6 posted on 01/01/2013 1:29:35 PM PST by Dead Corpse (Sine ullo desiderio vive et ama.... Carpe diem.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’d like to ask Trayvon’s mother how many of the kids shot in Newtown were beating Adam Lanza’s head into the pavement at the time he pulled the trigger on them.


7 posted on 01/01/2013 1:33:54 PM PST by Arm_Bears (Ted Kennedy's Oldsmobile has killed more people than my guns.)
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To: 17th Miss Regt
I seem to recall that Lanza used a pistol for all the killings. Does anyone know if he used the Bushmaster to do any killings?

According to the coroner he only used a pistol on himself. The victims were all killed with the AR.

8 posted on 01/01/2013 1:35:13 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Democracy is indispensable to socialism. The goal of socialism is communism." --Vladimir Lenin)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Decades hence, our offspring will listen in disbelief when we tell them we used to pay billions of dollars to warehouse children in “gun-free zones” overseen by morons; that 21st-century kids were groomed for 19th-century jobs and came out functionally illiterate but experts nonetheless on the subjects of Kwanzaa, “safe” sex, and something called global warming." --Kathy Shaidle, Ban School, Not Guns
9 posted on 01/01/2013 1:35:51 PM PST by virgil283 ( "He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A crazy kid went into this school and murdered those children. Each night many backs are killed in America’s large cities .If we used logic instead of BS we would come to the conclusion that crazies should be locked in institutions and guns should be banned from inner city blacks.

Many of these cities such as Chicago, New York, and Philadelphia, Washingtob DC already ban guns and we see that doesn’t work.

No they want to take guns away from people who have no intention of ever shooting anyone unless in defense of their life.

As a matter of fact no matter what this mother says her son was a thief and drug user, and the Skittles and Tea he was getting was going to be used to get High by mixing it with Codeine cough syrup, and the gun used by Zimmerman was in self-defense.

Please do not bring in a failed Mother and use her to give
credibility to the gun grabbing agenda of the author.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2006/09/lean_a_new_hip_/


10 posted on 01/01/2013 1:37:50 PM PST by Venturer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The common denominator? Guns.

Three reactions:

First, the common denominator is gun free zones. All these shootings except the attempt on Gifford's life took place in a posted gun free zone. And that crime took place in an area the shooter could reasonably assume others would be disarmed and no one was carrying.

Second, the common denominator in a million or more social interactions in America before noon today was that one or more of the people involved was armed and absolutely nothing unpleasant happened.

Third, this guy points out that the "common denominator" in a group of shootings is that guns were involved, and he gets paid for that? Does he feel like he made a real sharp leap of logic there?

and teenagers are killed walking home with Skittles and iced tea.

If the person who was shot was (as the evidence seems to indicate) beating the head of the person who shot him against concrete, I could care less what he had in his pocket. If the shooter basically killed him in cold blood as the prosecution claims, I doubt very much he would have failed to do so if he had a kitchen knife in his pocket instead of a handgun.

Liberalism is intellectually stunted, but it really seems to boldly go into new realms of stupidity when gun control is the topic of discussion.

11 posted on 01/01/2013 1:41:43 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Don't worry about the cliff. We're going to all land on some rich guy's wallet.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The common denominator? Guns.

Uh, no. The common denominator is sick people who use inanimate objects to murder innocent people.

12 posted on 01/01/2013 1:51:54 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: Arm_Bears

Exactly.


13 posted on 01/01/2013 1:57:53 PM PST by Track9 ("The nightly "news" is for the ignorant.")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
According to the coroner he only used a pistol on himself. The victims were all killed with the AR.

That bothers me alot since he was only on scene following the deaths and had absolutely no access to the bodies other than observing bullet holes. How does one discerne the difference between say a 9-mm bullet hole or a .223 bullet hole without actually having the bullets verified by a munitions expert?

14 posted on 01/01/2013 2:03:36 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Who cares what Trayvon’s Mother thinks!? All of a sudden she’s a gun expert? An expert on violence? She raised a gold toothed, ghetto thug. She doesn’t know jack sh**!


15 posted on 01/01/2013 2:07:43 PM PST by albie
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Another common denominator is each sicko was taught by the culture polluting democrat controlled federal school system.


16 posted on 01/01/2013 2:10:32 PM PST by Track9 ("The nightly "news" is for the ignorant.")
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To: albie

Dang it! I tried to hit the “like” button but remembered FR doesn’t have one.


17 posted on 01/01/2013 2:11:36 PM PST by BipolarBob (White ,bitter, clinging to my Bible and AR-15.)
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To: Hot Tabasco
So you are saying that no medical examiner is qualified to identify a bullet wound?

Only a "munitions expert" can do so?

18 posted on 01/01/2013 2:12:01 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Democracy is indispensable to socialism. The goal of socialism is communism." --Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Track9
Another common denominator is each sicko was taught by the culture polluting democrat controlled federal school system.

Bump!

That and phsycotropic drugs, a Godless society....the list is unfortunately too long.

19 posted on 01/01/2013 2:15:52 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: 17th Miss Regt; shelterguy

The ME’s presser said he used the .223 for all murders; handguns never used. The long gun in the trunk was a shotgun. I posted vid of cops racking-out shells.

My 12/29 post:

According to the ME’s presser, he used to AR-15 to do all the killings. They found another long gun in the trunk. Look at the shells being racked-out; looks like 12ga.

This article says he had the AR-15 and 2 handguns w/ him, and a shotgun was found in the car:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/16/at-least-26-dead-in-shooting-at-connecticut-school/

and

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/medical-examiner-sandy-hook-victims-died-multiple-gunshot-211722237.html

Here’s the vid of the long gun in the mother’s car’s trunk:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLrxSgkqJQc


20 posted on 01/01/2013 2:18:48 PM PST by carriage_hill (Have A Happy & Healthy New Year!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Edward Wyckoff Whackoff Williams.

FMCDH(BITS)

21 posted on 01/01/2013 2:22:55 PM PST by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Autopsy results, and shell casings at the scene.


22 posted on 01/01/2013 2:28:07 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: carriage_hill

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23 posted on 01/01/2013 2:32:02 PM PST by carriage_hill
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s a fact that these drug gangs in the inner cities are armed to the teeth with all the guns their drug money can buy. No one is asking, “Why is this?”

When Chicago records 523 homicides in one year, no one is asking, “Why is this?”

Well, I have an answer for all my zero-information Americans: It’s the illegal drug industry that’s driving all the homicides—with the best guns that money can buy (you see, the drug business is big money).

So, I have a modest proposal: Let’s get rid of the drugs.

Keep the guns in the hands of the law-abiding gun owners who will need to protect themselves when the thugs have no drugs to sell and come after our property (which I suspect, Travon Martin was getting prepared to do).


24 posted on 01/01/2013 2:41:12 PM PST by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: Dead Corpse

F**CKING LIAR!!!! Trayvon was doing a LOT more than just walking along with his snack when he was shot! Do these scum-sucking “journalists” lack even the SLIGHTEST inclination to tell the TRUTH?


25 posted on 01/01/2013 2:42:01 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
One of the main reasons that law abiding citizens need their weapons is the Gangsta attitude of people like Trayvon display in person and even on their social media pages. His parents should have modified and changed that attitude long ago. Now she wants to act like he was a total angle and she has a halo. BS BS and more BS.
The evidence shows that he attacked and physically assaulted and battered a legally armed citizen to the point that this citizen, fearing for his life, used deadly force to stop the attack.
I believe that the trials, if they do manage to get this to trial, will clearly show this to be fact and truth.
26 posted on 01/01/2013 2:51:19 PM PST by oldenuff2no
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
So you are saying that no medical examiner is qualified to identify a bullet wound?

That's exactly what I'm saying and you know it. There is absolutely no way to identify the caliber of a bullet hitting a body based on the entrance wound until the bullet is recovered.

27 posted on 01/01/2013 2:57:14 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The family of criminals have become a joke insofar as being an authority on anything, including childrearing. Why would any rational person use her as an authoritative source about firearms? or anything else?
28 posted on 01/01/2013 2:57:26 PM PST by publius911 (Look for the Union Label -- then buy something else)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Autopsy results,

The coroner's statements were made on scene, there had been no autopsies performed.............

29 posted on 01/01/2013 3:02:48 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If only she were as passionate about raising a decent son. Well, I’m off to buy some skittles and tea, and not assault anyone on the way home.


30 posted on 01/01/2013 3:04:49 PM PST by The Worthless Miracle
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To: Hot Tabasco

Ah, but the quantity of casings would have been a strong indicator.

I don’t think we’ll ever get the real details of this incident.


31 posted on 01/01/2013 3:05:04 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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The Place for Conservatives

Happy New Year!!

32 posted on 01/01/2013 3:07:13 PM PST by RedMDer (Those that believe in gun free zones should post gun free zone signs on their property and persons.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Ah, but the quantity of casings would have been a strong indicator.

Could be but who reported that?

33 posted on 01/01/2013 3:08:33 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The “family” should be niggardly with their public comments. They seem quite uninformed.


34 posted on 01/01/2013 3:13:15 PM PST by The Worthless Miracle
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To: Hot Tabasco

Not reported, but if the coroner (or police) observed a high ratio of rifle to pistol casings....

Like I said, we’ll probably never know with certainty.


35 posted on 01/01/2013 3:13:51 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Tijeras_Slim
There's still no explanation as to why the initial reports stated that the alleged "assault weapon" was found in the kid's car..........

Until that question is answered sufficiently to convince me that an assault weapon was indeed used on the children in the school then I will continue to question all the alleged information that's being put out by the MSM.....

Is that too much to ask?

36 posted on 01/01/2013 3:15:00 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: carriage_hill

Adam Lanza committed horrific crimes.

For such, he should forfeit all of his rights.

That is all.


37 posted on 01/01/2013 3:19:44 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

I agree the “gun in the car” hasn’t been clarified, although I have seen mention that it was a Mossberg 500 shotgun (which would look like an “assault weapon” to the MSM).

And yes, it is too much to ask for information without bias and an agenda from the MSM. ;)

Happy New Year.


38 posted on 01/01/2013 3:20:10 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Guess what the ‘common denominator’ in about 95% of the

crime in my general vicinity is? (hint:not guns)


39 posted on 01/01/2013 3:27:01 PM PST by americas.best.days... ( I think we can now say that they are behind us.)
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To: americas.best.days...

Are they white hispanics?


40 posted on 01/01/2013 3:29:36 PM PST by The Worthless Miracle
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To: chris37

He’s dead. What ‘rights’ does he have left? Just curious...


41 posted on 01/01/2013 3:30:27 PM PST by carriage_hill ("I meant to say maggot, but I have a lisp.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The common denominator? Guns.

The common denominator? A mentally ill person with a gun. If these people were treated humanly, they would not have the opportunity.

43 posted on 01/01/2013 3:44:21 PM PST by upchuck (America's at an awkward stage. Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: Arm_Bears


44 posted on 01/01/2013 3:44:33 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

And you know the bullets weren’t recovered because... you’re psychic?


45 posted on 01/01/2013 3:46:13 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Democracy is indispensable to socialism. The goal of socialism is communism." --Vladimir Lenin)
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To: carriage_hill

None.

Justice has been done.

This is over.


46 posted on 01/01/2013 3:55:49 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Arm_Bears
I’d like to ask Trayvon’s mother how many of the kids shot in Newtown were beating Adam Lanza’s head into the pavement at the time he pulled the trigger on them.

Bingo --

47 posted on 01/01/2013 3:56:32 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: The Worthless Miracle

LOL! Missed it by THAT much. You still get a prize tho!


48 posted on 01/01/2013 4:01:10 PM PST by americas.best.days... ( I think we can now say that they are behind us.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
And you know the bullets weren’t recovered because... your psychic?

Nooooo, because bullets are only extracted from dead bodies during autopsies which are conducted in licensed medical facilities, not in parking lots.......

Come on dude, surely you're smarter than that........sheesh!

49 posted on 01/01/2013 4:37:21 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The common denominator? Guns.

What a retard. He wants common Denominators? I can think of a few more...

Insanity, welfare, socks, pants, keys, coins, hundreds of items!

50 posted on 01/01/2013 4:40:50 PM PST by publius911 (Look for the Union Label -- then buy something else)
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