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Gun Confiscation in Ten Easy Steps
Clash Daily ^ | January 1, 2013 | Steve Sheldon

Posted on 01/02/2013 5:02:30 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

All the time fellow gun owners say things to me like, “Seriously, Steve, how would they possibly gather up all the hundreds of millions of guns that are out there?”

Well my naïve friend, let me tell you how it works.

Step 1: Create an anti-gun culture and make guns and gun owners the bad guys at every turn:

On the evening news, every time a crime is reported, make sure there is a picture of a mean looking gun next to the chalk outline of a body. Portray hunters and sportsmen as backwoods unsophisticated hillbillies and rednecks. Feminize the society, especially the males. Create a culture where the police* are revered as heroes whose intentions can never be questioned. Demonize war and warriors. Label gun organizations “crazed lunatics” and “unreasonable extremists.” Make shooting restrictive by forcing participants to private ranges, then close the ranges by legal means citing reasons of safety, nuisance, environmental, or whatever possible.

Create terms like “assault weapon”, “high-powered sniper rifle”, “guns off the streets”, “weapons of war” when engaging in the gun debate making ordinary guns out to have extraordinary functions. Build on this disinformation by using movies, gaming, and entertainment that creates the falsehood that guns are capable of doing impossible things like firing hundreds of times without reloading or overheating or blowing up a car’s gas tank with the strike of a bullet.

Step 2: Build “security” systems that make the sheeple feel safe, giving them a false sense of security and overdependence on police and government authority while at the same time disarming them.

Establish gun free zones. Install security cameras everywhere. Place roving security cars with strobes in mall parking lots. Create neighborhood watch programs under the careful supervision of law enforcement insisting that no one be armed...

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: banglist; confiscation; gunconfiscation; guncontrol; secondamendment
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1 posted on 01/02/2013 5:02:39 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That is all fine, but they still need to get rid of that pesky 2Amd.


2 posted on 01/02/2013 5:07:52 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Illinois is right now trying to push thru 2 bills, tonite, about banning guns., by the lame duck session!


3 posted on 01/02/2013 5:10:09 PM PST by blondee123 (DICTATORSHIP HAS ARRIVED! Nov. 6, 2012)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Given the gun buying frenzy the last 4 years by Americans, I’d say all the noise is comming from the chattering class.


4 posted on 01/02/2013 5:10:09 PM PST by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/fulltext.asp?DocName=09700HB0815sam002&GA=97&SessionId=84&DocTypeId=HB&LegID=56601&DocNum=815&GAID=11&Session


5 posted on 01/02/2013 5:11:15 PM PST by blondee123 (DICTATORSHIP HAS ARRIVED! Nov. 6, 2012)
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To: Travis McGee
That is all fine, but they still need to get rid of that pesky 2Amd.

Who interprets the 2nd Amendment? The Supreme Court. One appointment by Obama can change the current 5-4 favoring gun rights into 5-4 denying them.

6 posted on 01/02/2013 5:11:56 PM PST by JoeFromSidney ( New book: RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY. Buy from Amazon.)
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To: umgud

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/fulltext.asp?DocName=09700HB1263sam006&GA=97&SessionId=84&DocTypeId=HB&LegID=57242&DocNum=1263&GAID=11&Session


7 posted on 01/02/2013 5:12:06 PM PST by blondee123 (DICTATORSHIP HAS ARRIVED! Nov. 6, 2012)
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To: JoeFromSidney

Who obeys the supreme court?


8 posted on 01/02/2013 5:15:29 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Ain't gonna happen. There isn't enough of them, and there are too many of us.

Hell, I can't find all of my firearms here in the house, that's why the grandkids can't visit until they get their training.

I've got bricks of .22 long rifle as bookends for reloading notebooks.

And I'm just a cook. Lots more out there with lots more than I have.

/johnny

9 posted on 01/02/2013 5:18:13 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes, go ahead and ban them and demand that I register what I own. I’ve got a closet full of nothing left to lose and several don’t give a damn suitcases to pack it in.

When this starts, I’ll not wait for them to come to me.


10 posted on 01/02/2013 5:22:21 PM PST by Noumenon (As long as you have a rifle, you STILL have a vote.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

;~)


11 posted on 01/02/2013 5:23:05 PM PST by TADSLOS (I took extra credit at the School of Hard Knocks)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Listen live to Illinois debate
https://www.facebook.com/IllinoisCarry


12 posted on 01/02/2013 5:23:11 PM PST by blondee123 (DICTATORSHIP HAS ARRIVED! Nov. 6, 2012)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Listen live to Illinois debate
https://www.facebook.com/IllinoisCarry


13 posted on 01/02/2013 5:23:18 PM PST by blondee123 (DICTATORSHIP HAS ARRIVED! Nov. 6, 2012)
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To: JoeFromSidney

No, in the end, WE interpret the 2A. The arms are in our hands, and we can read the BOR without needing five of nine black robed legal gurus to interpret it for us.

This is my interpretation: any arms, ammo or mags legal in 2012 will be legal forever. Any laws passed that they claim will make them illegal, I will not recognize or obey, including laws mandating registration, banning private transfers, etc.

This is the hill to fight on. Otherwise, we are on the road to eventual democide.


14 posted on 01/02/2013 5:29:43 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Dr. Suzanna Hupp Testimony (Better Quality) to Congress on the Second Amendment

The last few seconds are priceless!

15 posted on 01/02/2013 5:31:17 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oh stop..
Make all gun owners the bad guys. That is silly. Everyone of those gun owners are fathers mothers, brothers sisters uncles aunts etc. Veterans, former LEO, Fireman, Paramedics.


16 posted on 01/02/2013 5:45:37 PM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Most of that crap has already been tried, and Americans have responded by buying firearms and ammunition in record amounts. We are completely overrunning the left on this issue and they are squealing like pigs.


17 posted on 01/02/2013 5:46:09 PM PST by Quickgun (I came here screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ve been giving a lot of thought to this scenerio, as have others. The govt may be able to create control zones in large cities, but it won’t work in smaller towns and rural areas, for a number of reasons.

So, if this comes to pass, I believe the conflict will have to be taken to the large, blue urban areas.


18 posted on 01/02/2013 5:47:18 PM PST by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: umgud

That’s it. Just a little static we need to tune out. A little “snow” in the picture!
Besides,I will have my guns as long as I am alive, and I won’t need ‘em after that. ( I would like to leave them to my daughter, though)


19 posted on 01/02/2013 5:49:36 PM PST by Quickgun (I came here screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: JoeFromSidney

But 80 or so million of us can change that to a 0-0 decision, if we have to.


20 posted on 01/02/2013 5:52:08 PM PST by Quickgun (I came here screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: Noumenon

Yep.


21 posted on 01/02/2013 5:54:05 PM PST by Quickgun (I came here screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: Noumenon
Yes, go ahead and ban them and demand that I register what I own. I’ve got a closet full of nothing left to lose and several don’t give a damn suitcases to pack it in.

When this starts, I’ll not wait for them to come to me.


Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose.
22 posted on 01/02/2013 6:01:34 PM PST by crosshairs (They are only assault weapons in the hands of tyrannical governments and criminals. Ban both.)
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To: Travis McGee
>>>That is all fine, but they still need to get rid of that pesky 2Amd.

That's pretty naive of you. All that is required is 1 more conservative on the court to retire or die. Then Obama puts someone like Sotomayor on the court who believes the 2nd amendment applies to the National Guard and not the individual. The application of the 2nd is determined by who interprets the 2nd. Remember, there was a time when blacks were 3/5th of a person. In recent times, the court has found it constitutional to kill a baby.

They don't have to be correct in how they interpret the constitution...it becomes law none-the-less.

23 posted on 01/02/2013 6:04:03 PM PST by NELSON111
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

230:1

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2972987/posts


24 posted on 01/02/2013 6:23:27 PM PST by petro45acp (More sheepdogs please...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I can’t deal with this HS. Just came back from Best Buy and I’m gonna play my New copy of “Call of Duty Black Ops”.

Aaaaaaaand that bottle Duckhorn is going to get emptied.


25 posted on 01/02/2013 6:27:46 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Bricks of .22’s for bookends. I likey.

I should use my 308’s for that.

Oh wait, I can’t read ......


26 posted on 01/02/2013 6:29:44 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Step 1: Create an anti-gun culture and make guns and gun owners the bad guys at every turn:

When about one out of three Americans owns a gun I would say they aren't making much headway on step #1. lol

27 posted on 01/02/2013 6:32:15 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: crosshairs

I’ll bring scotch and more ammo than I can carry.

These plicks are forcing me buy stuff I don’t even want right now.


28 posted on 01/02/2013 6:34:46 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Vendome
Years ago, I asked about buying .22LR in bulk (kids were growing up, and we were going through them). Guy gave me a price for a brick, and I hedged.... that was a little steep (worked out to less than a buck for a box of 50.)

So he made a call, and said he'd give me a good price on 2 cases, and to come back next week to pick them up.

I never thought to ask how many were in a case, at the time.

I've got .22LR for the rest of my natural life.

The car sagged taking those two cases home.

/johnny

29 posted on 01/02/2013 6:37:41 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: NELSON111
Remember, there was a time when blacks were 3/5th of a person.

You do realize that that was agreed to in order to deprive the slave owning states from claiming excessive power through inflated congressional representation don't you?

30 posted on 01/02/2013 6:46:37 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Quickgun

Zactly.


31 posted on 01/02/2013 6:56:51 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: TigersEye
Uh...yes. That doesn't make it any less ridiculous and false. That was my point. The USSC has a tendency to make illogical and false judgments, based on the people and the times, rather than the clear meaning of the constitution.

That's where we are headed with the 2nd. The USSC will say it doesn't mean what the framers and 200 years of court decisions says it means...that all of that was wrong...and it's not unconstitutional for the federal government to seize weapons from citizens.

That's the point when EVERYONE (gun owner or not) will have to make a choice: Obey the "new" law of the land...or fight. I've already began to purge myself of liberal friends and family...because I know the day is coming for the choice to be made...and I would rather not have to "fight" someone I am close with. I would rather sever the relationship now...and thus not have any hesitations later.

32 posted on 01/02/2013 7:01:11 PM PST by NELSON111
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To: NELSON111
Uh...yes. That doesn't make it any less ridiculous and false. That was my point. The USSC has a tendency to make illogical and false judgments, based on the people and the times, rather than the clear meaning of the constitution.

The only thing ridiculous and false about it was to consider slaves as any kind of citizen. It is also false that it was a USSC decision. It was not.

33 posted on 01/02/2013 7:05:57 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: JRandomFreeper

5000 in a case of 22lr 2 cases hardly enough to sag a car.

I think my 2 chilhdren went through 20 thousands rounds or so from the time they were 12 to 18


34 posted on 01/02/2013 7:08:05 PM PST by riverrunner
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To: riverrunner
It was an old Corolla. Yeah, it sagged.

/johnny

35 posted on 01/02/2013 7:10:38 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I guess if 70lbs would cause your car to sag.


36 posted on 01/02/2013 7:14:19 PM PST by riverrunner
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To: Travis McGee

Second Amendment - Pshaw! - Obama & buds intend to render the whole Constitution, “that old rag”, totally irrelevant.

How did Adolph Hitler get rid of all the guns in Germany in a fairly short time?


37 posted on 01/02/2013 7:16:16 PM PST by Twinkie (OBAMA is the FISCAL CLIFF !!)
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To: riverrunner
Aft of the rear axle, on that car? Yep.

2 bags of groceries gave it a little sink.

/johnny

38 posted on 01/02/2013 7:16:57 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JoeFromSidney
Who interprets the 2nd Amendment? The Supreme Court. One appointment by Obama can change the current 5-4 favoring gun rights into 5-4 denying them.

The Supreme Court? How many divisions do they have?

39 posted on 01/02/2013 7:17:45 PM PST by Teacher317 ('Tis time to fear when tyrants seem to kiss.)
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To: NELSON111

Slavery was once the law of the land. If the scotus said slavery was legal again by 5/4, based on their new interpret ion of the 14A, do you think blacks would agree?

Scotus can claim the moon is made of cheese, will you agree with them?

How about if one or more supremes is blackmailed, such as a secretly gay one (Roberts) over Obamacare?

Are you saying that no matter what 5/9 supremes decide on any issue, we must obey?

Dred Scott, for example?

Once we are disarmed, any future turn to tyranny will result in democide. Once disarmed, old greedy white bitter clingers can be rounded up and exterminated as easily as the disarmed Armenians, Kulaks, Jews etc.

Nope, I am not willing to trust in the eternal benevolence of future govts. I can read the 2A without help from 5/9 supremes. I will fight on this hill: any arms or ammo legal to own in 2012 will be legal to own by my own reading of the 2A forever.

If Congress and scotus say otherwise, then they will have to send armed goons to disarm me, the hard way. And I will consider those armed goons to be traitors, and will treat them as such.


40 posted on 01/02/2013 7:17:47 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Twinkie

He did not. It was a drawn out affair done in stages beginning with gun registration in the early 1920s under the Weimar govts.

That is why national registration must be resisted: it means govt permission to own guns, and class by class, they take away the most effective arms. Also happened in Armenia, the USSR, etc.


41 posted on 01/02/2013 7:23:20 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee
Once disarmed, old greedy white bitter clingers

See... there's the problem with that whole process.

They'll need to bring a lunch.

/johnny

42 posted on 01/02/2013 7:24:06 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Travis McGee
If the scotus said slavery was legal again by 5/4, based on their new interpret ion of the 14A,

My ex-girlfriend's daughter, the one that I taught to shoot while her mom was deployed, and who later worked for me.... she might not be ok with all of that. And she is scarey smart.

She just graduated as an oilfield engineer of some kind. I wish the left good luck keeping her in chains, they'll need it.

/johnny

43 posted on 01/02/2013 7:28:43 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: TigersEye
You are correct. I got it mixed up and put it in with Dred Scott...I thought that part of the Dred Scott decision was an upholding of the 3/5th compromise of A1.2.3 in dealing with his citizenship. My bad.

Anyway...the USSC has a list of decisions that I think we would both agree are bad and wrong...most recently the Obama-care decision. I anticipate two far left justices like the two hags he's already put on the court...and I anticipate another bad, faulty ruling concerning the 2nd.

44 posted on 01/02/2013 7:49:25 PM PST by NELSON111
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To: JRandomFreeper
I wish the left good luck keeping her in chains, they'll need it.

Do not wish them luck. Wish that they find salvation before they die. It will do them a lot more good, and we can use the luck.

Glad you taught a good one to shoot.

45 posted on 01/02/2013 7:50:02 PM PST by marktwain
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To: JRandomFreeper

To put any of us in chains or into boxcars, first they need to disarm us.
I can read the 2A without help. They want to disarm me, under any pretext or under color of law, it will have to be done the hard way.

This is the hill to fight on. Any guns legally owned in 2012 will remain so, no matter what 5/9 legal gurus have to say about it.

I can read the BOR, and I have read plenty of history.

1: Registration
2: Confiscation
3: Extermination

Molon labe!


46 posted on 01/02/2013 7:52:24 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: NELSON111
Anyway...the USSC has a list of decisions that I think we would both agree are bad and wrong...

Absolutely! No question about that. However, the most recent SCOTUS decision (AFAIK most recent) regarding the 2nd Amendment was one of the strongest affirmations of the RKBA there has ever been. That was the one concerning the right to carry in DC.

47 posted on 01/02/2013 8:12:27 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Travis McGee

You da man. Seriously. I hope we all get after it!


48 posted on 01/02/2013 8:36:04 PM PST by slouper
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To: Vendome

Can’t read? Doesn’t matter. You can get a few books cheap at yard sales.


49 posted on 01/03/2013 10:01:33 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: chris37
Who obeys the supreme court?

Other Federal Courts. State Courts. County Courts. City Courts. Prosecutors. Law Enforcement Officers. Prison Guards.

If you want to go down that road, do it with your eyes open.

50 posted on 01/03/2013 10:18:58 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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