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Harry Reid Prepares to Annihilate Second Amendment
Right Side News ^ | 03 January 201 | Right Side News

Posted on 01/03/2013 10:45:17 AM PST by arthurus

Gun grabbers are not going to be able to get 60 votes to break a Senate filibuster of gun control. But, with the help of fake "pro-gun" Senate Democrats, they may be able to get 50.

So the question of whether Senate Democrats will need 50 votes or 60 votes will determine whether gun control -– and much of Obama's agenda -– will be slammed through and passed into law.

This brings us to the "nuclear option."

This is a trick which anti-gun Democrats intend to use the first day of the Senate session in order to obliterate the Senate rules and clear the way for 50-vote passage of gun control.

Your senator's vote on the "nuclear option" may be the most important gun-related vote he casts during the 113th Congress. It may be the difference between whether Obama can secure Senate passage of gun bans, magazine bans, gun show bans, and bans on private gun sales.

Anti-gun Democrats will try to tell you that the Senate is just following its precedents.

But that's a bald-faced lie. As Democrats made clear during the Bush administration when the Republicans were contemplating the "nuclear option," the nuclear option has been threatened, but the trigger has never been pulled.

Anti-gun Democrats will try to tell you that the "nuclear option" can only be invoked on the first day.

That's a lie.

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TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; confiscation; guncontrol; guns; harryreid; nuclear; nuclearoption; secondamendment; ussenate

1 posted on 01/03/2013 10:45:23 AM PST by arthurus
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To: arthurus

Sooooo, I guess the senate can pass laws without the house of representatives now?


2 posted on 01/03/2013 10:48:32 AM PST by RC one (From My Cold Dead Hands.)
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To: arthurus
A few days after the tragic Sandy Hook school murders, a young Marine in fatigues stationed himself at the front entrance of the Nashville elementary school his two children attend. Another parent heard him admit to a reporter that he was unarmed. The other parent commented that, even though the young Marine standing guard was not armed, it made him “feel better” to know he was there.

It’s often been observed that “perception is more important than reality”. The observation is often correct. It is never MORE CORRECT than for those we’ve come to call “liberals”. I prefer “statist” but “liberal” has morphed from its classic meaning to the other end of the spectrum so I’ll stay with it.

Since these folks operate almost entirely on EMOTION and FEELING, REALITY seldom allows FACTS to intrude upon the delusional worldview they have constructed and the comfort that provides them. It is that illogical, irrational and delusional mindset that prompts many of them to continue to quest after a Utopian society. The thought that such a society can and will never be achieved in a fallen world populated with failed sinners never penetrates whatever remains of their cognitive consciousness. It’s a DANGEROUS WORLD and, as the liberals continue to “define deviancy down”, it becomes more dangerous daily.

There is another, far more sinister, level of the “liberal” call for gun control.

It was Mencken who offered that “The urge to save humanity is most often a false front for the URGE TO RULE.” He clearly had been a student of the liberal politicians of his day. Were he alive today and able to observe the likes of Chuck Schumer, Diane Feinstein, Obama and the rest, he’d almost certainly have used far stronger language to frame his sage observation.

To conclude, dozens of studies reveal the FACTS concerning gun control. Those FACTS are that where firearms are widely and READILY available to law-abiding citizens, CRIME GOES DOWN! The liberals who willfully ignore the FACTUAL EVIDENCE and continue to call for gun control (i.e. the DISARMING of DECENT CITIZENS, thereby denying them the ability to exercise their God-given right to self-defense) are those about whom Mencken wrote: Their goal is NOT about preserving life. It is about the hell-bent pursuit of the impossible to achieve Utopian world where all are equal but some (that’d be THEM) are MORE equal than others (that’d be US).

There are many PRO-RTKABA videos on You Tube that your often busy lives don’t allow you to find on your own. Search there for “Gun Control”, watch them – and, more importantly – SHARE THEM with the folks in your orbit.

We’re in a fight. And losing will ultimately cost us much more than our right to our guns.

3 posted on 01/03/2013 10:48:47 AM PST by Dick Bachert (An ARMED society is a POLITE society!)
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To: RC one
"Sooooo, I guess the senate can pass laws without the house of representatives now?"

Yep, there's still that hurdle. Getting rid of fillibuster menas all of zero's appointments (judicial and otherwise) can be railroaded through the Senate.

4 posted on 01/03/2013 10:50:18 AM PST by circlecity
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To: RC one

Indeed, this assumes a majority in the House votes for Feinstein’s proposal.


5 posted on 01/03/2013 10:51:55 AM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back The Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: arthurus

Millions of firearms were purchased in the past few years just to return the favor.


6 posted on 01/03/2013 10:54:27 AM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: arthurus

Didn’t the NRA back Ried in 2010?


7 posted on 01/03/2013 10:58:08 AM PST by jospehm20
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To: arthurus

Thanks to Pookie18 - Today’s Toons

Thanks to Pookie18 - Today’s Toons

8 posted on 01/03/2013 11:00:58 AM PST by Perseverando (Gun control? It's really not about gun control is it? It's really about PEOPLE CONTROL!)
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To: arthurus
Mormon Scripture, "Doctrine and Covenants" Section 98:

5 And that law of the land which is constitutional, supporting that principle of freedom in maintaining rights and privileges, belongs to all mankind, and is justifiable before me.

6 Therefore, I, the Lord, justify you, and your brethren of my church, in befriending that law which is the constitutional law of the land;


9 posted on 01/03/2013 11:03:23 AM PST by SENTINEL (I lie, I cheat, I steal, I communize, I sacrifice unborn babies, I'm Harry Reid and I'm a mormon)
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To: arthurus
A lot of this is bluster.

They know that a newly elected president is supposed to have all kinds of capital to get stuff through so they're trying to make it appear that Obama is in that position.

In reality, much of his capital has already been spent in the cliff fight. He's come limping out of that and looks very weak going forward.

The gun thing will go nowhere.

10 posted on 01/03/2013 11:05:37 AM PST by what's up
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To: Dick Bachert
STICK TO YOUR GUNS
11 posted on 01/03/2013 11:06:24 AM PST by SENTINEL (I lie, I cheat, I steal, I communize, I sacrifice unborn babies, I'm Harry Reid and I'm a mormon)
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To: jospehm20

Yes,

Here is an article with Reid and Wayne LaPierre at a pork funded range.


12 posted on 01/03/2013 11:06:52 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Dick Bachert

13 posted on 01/03/2013 11:06:52 AM PST by Perseverando (Gun control? It's really not about gun control is it? It's really about PEOPLE CONTROL!)
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To: driftdiver

I recall Lapierre getting upset over all the flack he caught for that. I hope he was right and Ried does not side with the gun grabbers.


14 posted on 01/03/2013 11:12:35 AM PST by jospehm20
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To: RC one

Only on a Treaty, and that requires a super majority.


15 posted on 01/03/2013 11:15:51 AM PST by Kansas58
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To: arthurus
"So the question of whether Senate Democrats will need 50 votes or 60 votes will determine whether gun control -– and much of Obama's agenda -– will be slammed through and passed into law."

Stop the lies. The Senate does not pass laws, and there is a House of Representatives with a Republican majority. Do write to your representatives and senators, though--very important, even if your politicians are Democrats.

Colorado does have Democrat majorities in its assembly, though, and that state is the focus of the real money now for gun control efforts. Remember the gradual/incremental methods of socialists. If a gun control bill passes there, and becomes law, do any of you plan to vacation or otherwise spend money in Calirado? Think about it.

Rocky Mountain Gun Owners


16 posted on 01/03/2013 11:16:12 AM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: RC one
Sooooo, I guess the senate can pass laws without the house of representatives now?

Unfortunately, the Senate is in the hands of the anti-constitution Harry Reid, and the House is in the hands of the tearful Boehner. The House does not reassure me any more than the Senate does.

17 posted on 01/03/2013 11:21:52 AM PST by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: SENTINEL
Repulsive Picture

Meteors and lightning never strike when you want them to.

18 posted on 01/03/2013 11:21:52 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: jospehm20

I recall Lapierre getting upset over all the flack he caught for that. I hope he was right and Ried does not side with the gun grabbers

oh, he will. you can count of that.


19 posted on 01/03/2013 11:29:54 AM PST by 1st Division guy
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To: arthurus

Do it.

Let’s get this sh*t over with.


20 posted on 01/03/2013 11:31:36 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Sine ullo desiderio vive et ama.... Carpe diem.)
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To: arthurus

” the nuclear option has been threatened, but the trigger has never been pulled.”

Yes, it was already used to ram O-care through.


21 posted on 01/03/2013 11:34:39 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: DTogo
Indeed, this assumes a majority in the House votes for Feinstein’s proposal.

If anything passes it's not going to look remotely like Feinstein's proposal. (Fienstein's proposal wouldn't even likely pass constitutional muster with the courts...) They...might...be able to get the so called "gun show loophole" through (which would be essentially pointless and uneforcable see (1) below) and maybe limits on hi-cap magazines which would look like the 1994 ban with all existing ones being grandfathered in and manufacture banned after a certain date (also pointless see (2) below).

(1) Closing the gun show loophole would require anybody selling a gun to another individual to go through a licensed gun dealer and have a backgroud check done. Unless you are stupid enough to pay by check or give a dated receipt, there would be no way to tell if the transaction took place before or after the requirement went into place, making it essentially on the honor system, and almost impossible to enforce.

(2) Hi-Cap Magazines are as plentiful as ball point pens and will always be easy to obtain, ban on manufacture or not. The last time they tried to ban them the price had barely budged at the end of the ten year ban and most gun stores had tables full of them.

22 posted on 01/03/2013 11:35:19 AM PST by apillar
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To: RC one

You mean the house of rubberstamp


23 posted on 01/03/2013 11:45:21 AM PST by nomobs
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To: apillar

3d printing?

This seems an impossible task. The only way the communists could control these by outlawing them completly so their mere existence is a crime.

What we need to do is pick a hollyweird A lister and take them out by refusing to buy or support any show, tv program, product, etc that has their appearance. make them ecconomically shunned.


24 posted on 01/03/2013 11:49:45 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: jospehm20
Didn’t the NRA back Ried in 2010?

No, after some apparent dithering on the topic, it did not.

It did, however, support Manchin in a thoroughly disgusting, boot licking manner ... both in 2010 and 2012.

We're about to test the mettle of the oh-so-wonderful, NRA A+ rated and endorsed Senaturd Manchin.

25 posted on 01/03/2013 11:52:00 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Pollster1
"Unfortunately, the Senate is in the hands of the anti-constitution Harry Reid, and the House is in the hands of the tearful Boehner."

I disagree with the likes of Boehner on the big government spending, too. Celebrities are big on TV, aren't they. But they aren't all-powerful emperors, as seen on too many wanna-be conservative boards. And we should all know by now that the political/regulator constituents who keep socialist politicians (re. most politicians: lawyers) in office are quite dependent on big government for their fat, bipartisan paychecks.

All Republican members of the House can vote, and each and every one of them can vote against any gun control bill. So can some of the Democrats (e.g., some of the southern ones). The bills will be posted here, as will every name and vote.

We're not retarded, are we? I don't think so. We've only been lazy until now, because most of us (both political parties) are lounging and gorging on fat incomes from federal, state and local government (for now). The bills will appear at the following site, when they are introduced. Hopefully, each posting of bills/status will be separate and not rolled into one post to make way for the usual cluck-fest.

Browse Bills & Resolutions 113th Congress (2013-2014)


26 posted on 01/03/2013 11:54:48 AM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: arthurus

http://gunowners.org/a01022013.htm

http://gunowners.org/


27 posted on 01/03/2013 12:03:39 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: arthurus
Boehner, you said this:

Boehner - Filibuster rule change bills 'dead on arrival' Washington Times ^
| 11-29 Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2012 10:03:06 PM by Arthurio

Find your spine.

28 posted on 01/03/2013 12:12:58 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: arthurus

Well so long as it is a tax not a fine or penalty ......


29 posted on 01/03/2013 12:17:23 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: ArrogantBustard; jospehm20

The NRA didn’t “endorse” Reid but they did feature him in their monthly magazine and Wayne said great things about him.


30 posted on 01/03/2013 12:39:30 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: arthurus

But...but...but....the NRA endorsed him.......duh!


31 posted on 01/03/2013 1:19:13 PM PST by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: arthurus

You might think about where you would hide your guns. Your defense is the Second Amendment.


32 posted on 01/03/2013 1:32:04 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: Dick Bachert

Was Sandy Hook related to MF-Ultra???


33 posted on 01/03/2013 2:35:57 PM PST by TNoldman (AN AMERICAN FOR A MUSLIM/BHO FREE AMERICA.)
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To: arthurus

Let them vote. If it’s passed those who voted yay make the list for the free after party.


34 posted on 01/03/2013 5:06:52 PM PST by TheBigJ
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To: Kansas58
Nope, a treaty would only require the assent of 2/3rds of senators present.
35 posted on 01/04/2013 2:01:30 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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