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MSNBC Guest Draws Parallel Between Gun Owners and Child Molesters
Free Beacon ^ | 1/3/13 | Washington Free Beacon Staff

Posted on 01/03/2013 5:47:26 PM PST by Nachum

Former New York City mayoral candidate Mark Green drew a parallel between gun owners and child molesters Thursday evening on MSNBC. Green suggested that residing near gun owners and residing near child molesters may pose comparable risks, and thus there should be a registry for both:

MARK GREEN: Well it is a neighbor’s interest, even if a law-abiding person has a person, has a permit, has a gun, Adam Lanza stole a gun from his mother who he of course killed. I’m a lawyer and believe in the right to privacy. This is in the public domain. The information is publicly filed. Of course, the newspaper had a right to publish public information. The question is was it right as a matter of judgment for them to do that. If we have a Megan’s Law, and I think everybody might agree, that if you’re a convicted child molester, I think everybody might want to know that because they’re in their home safe, but they may come out. Same thing with guns. There may be people who think the more concealed weapons, the better, fine – live in Texas and Florida.

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1 posted on 01/03/2013 5:47:33 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum

INCONVENIENT FACT: According to no less an authority than the peer-reviewed Harvard Journal of Law & Public Policy, countries with stringent gun control laws have higher murder and suicide rates than those without.

DOCUMENTATION: “Would Banning Firearms Reduce Murder and Suicide?” A Review of International and Some Domestic Evidence by Don B. Kates and Gary Mauser, Volume 30, Number 2 of the Harvard Journal of Law & Public Policy, pages 649-694. (To download a PDF copy of the journal article, simply Google the title. It is available on the web free of charge.)

QUOTE FROM ARTICLE: “If you are surprised by our findings, so are we. We did not begin this research with any intent to “exonerate” handguns, but there it is — a negative finding, to be sure, but a negative finding is nevertheless a positive contribution. It directs us where not to aim public health resources.”

INDIRECTION: The trick hoplophobes always use is to say that America has higher gun-murder rates than other countries, but many of those “murders” are criminals killed in the act of committing violent crimes. Compare absolute murder rates, and the result is “more guns, less murder.” (Source: GunFacts.info);

SECOND INCONVENIENT FACT: According to DOJ crime statistics, guns are used by US citizens 2.5 million times per year to prevent violent crimes like rape, robbery, home-invasion and carjacking, 99% of the time without a shot being fired. (Source: GunFacts.info)

THIRD INCONVENIENT FACT: “Assault weapons” (AKA semiautomatic rifles) are used in less than 1% of gun crimes. (Source: GunFacts.info)

QUESTION: If gun-free zones make people safe, then why don’t we declare the immediate vicinity of the President and Vice-President to be gun-free zones and send the Secret Service home? Or are gun-free zones good enough for our kids, but not good enough for our overlords?

METAPHOR: America has more private gun ownership than most other countries, so naturally there are more gun murders. America also has more hospitals than most other countries, so naturally we have more people dying in hospitals. Does that mean we should outlaw hospitals?


2 posted on 01/03/2013 5:51:44 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("More law, less justice." --Cicero)
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To: Nachum

Is it just me or is this guy bordering on the incoherent?


3 posted on 01/03/2013 5:51:44 PM PST by ArmyTeach ( Videteco eos prius (See 'em first) Sculpin 191)
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To: ArmyTeach
Is it just me or is this guy bordering on the incoherent?

He's a lawyer. He's trained to be incoherent.

4 posted on 01/03/2013 5:55:30 PM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: Nachum

I think freepers should take an hour and watch Glenn Beck’s show on gun violence. The person he interviewed showed what the argument (they call it “conversation” now) is really about. Probably one of the best shows and interviews he has had in a long time.


5 posted on 01/03/2013 5:56:14 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (Save the nation, have your family's progressives spayed or neutered.)
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To: ArmyTeach

...MSNBC that is ...


6 posted on 01/03/2013 5:57:04 PM PST by ArmyTeach ( Videteco eos prius (See 'em first) Sculpin 191)
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To: Nachum

Mark Green is the perennial failed politician that even the libtards don’t like. I thought he had died or maybe moved under a bridge somewhere. My God. He’s still around?


7 posted on 01/03/2013 5:57:08 PM PST by laweeks
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To: RetiredTexasVet

Ref: Jan 3rd show on the Blaze.


8 posted on 01/03/2013 5:57:22 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (Save the nation, have your family's progressives spayed or neutered.)
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To: ArmyTeach
Its incoherent because the objective is to insult, not make sense.

All progressives have a primative need to end-run their own intellects and publicly emote.

9 posted on 01/03/2013 5:58:05 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Nachum
There may be people who think the more concealed weapons, the better, fine – live in Texas and Florida.

This a$$hat must believe the second amendment only applies in Texas and Florida.

10 posted on 01/03/2013 6:00:18 PM PST by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: Nachum

Substitute the words “gun owners”, for “jews”, and we are back in 1939. And there’s a story like this every day. I think i might need an assault rifle for the same reasons Anne Frank did. She didn’t have one, i do.


11 posted on 01/03/2013 6:02:06 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: laweeks

The brain dead Mark Green is back! The farthest he got in city government was “consumer advocate”. His claim to fame, if I remember correctly, was his war against cold cereal.


12 posted on 01/03/2013 6:03:18 PM PST by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: Nachum

The left seems to always be obsessed with sex, rape, and child molestation..the left truly are mentally ill..the same ones who trash the 2nd Amendment have NO problem having their buildings guarded with armed guards..Hey MSNBC, since you guys hate guns so much, get rid of those armed guards of yours


13 posted on 01/03/2013 6:03:40 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: miss marmelstein

Wasn’t this moron on the old Crossfire where Buchanan kicked his ass almost nightly?


14 posted on 01/03/2013 6:06:16 PM PST by laweeks
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To: jazusamo

We’re a pretty gun heavy state here in Michigan and the one thing they never talk about is the fact that the long guns aren’t registered anywhere.


15 posted on 01/03/2013 6:06:30 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: ArmyTeach

Anyone would be who had his head stuck up Ralph Nader’s backside for 4 decades


16 posted on 01/03/2013 6:07:30 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat (Elections do have consequences, young people of America)
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To: Nachum

Mark Greene has been a horse’s ass his whole life. I don’t see that changing


17 posted on 01/03/2013 6:11:11 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: Nachum

..another Soros funded puppet


18 posted on 01/03/2013 6:12:32 PM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: laweeks
Wasn’t this moron on the old Crossfire where Buchanan kicked his ass almost nightly?

I was wondering if it was the same jughead also. I remember he did run for something. He's very short on intelligence.

19 posted on 01/03/2013 6:15:58 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Where can I pick up a 2013 Mayan calendar?)
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To: Nachum

The difference is that guns are NOT allowed but child molesters are teaching the kids.


20 posted on 01/03/2013 6:18:43 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Nachum

since libs are for stuff like card check, i think it’s in my best interest to know which of my neighbors vote for libtards. also how much they earn, and whether they pay their fair share or are just moochers.

it comes out of my pocket, it affects the laws i and my family have to live under, therefore using libtard logic, i want this info published.


21 posted on 01/03/2013 6:18:59 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: ArmyTeach
Is it just me or is this guy bordering on the incoherent?

Looks like some sloppy programming or reading of bullet points with no internal connection between them. He really has no comprehension of what he is saying. Does he even know how many gun owners there are in this country ?

22 posted on 01/03/2013 6:19:20 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: laweeks

I think you’re right. I don’t remember him from that show. Maybe that was near the end of it’s run...


23 posted on 01/03/2013 6:20:39 PM PST by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: cripplecreek
Yep, was born and raised in CA which is now a lib state and was next to impossible to get a CC years ago and still is but no license required to buy hand guns or long guns.

Lived in OR, a gun heavy state and CC is pretty easy to get in many counties, no license required to buy either.

Now live in WA which is controled by libs but CC can be gotten by law abiding citizens, no license required to buy either.

No registration required in any of the three for long guns and none for hand guns that I know of except for initial purchase for background check which is not supposed to be retained.

24 posted on 01/03/2013 6:21:23 PM PST by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: Nachum

Ban tanning beds, I think his brain is fried!

He worked with Ralph Nader from 1970–1980, eventually as director of Public Citizen's Congress Watch, and is also the former president of Air America Radio (2007–2009). - owned by his brother, the real estate magnate.

In 1977, Green married Deni Frand, later the director of the New York City office of liberal interest group, People for the American Way and also a senior associate at the Aol-Time Warner Foundation and the Citi Foundation

25 posted on 01/03/2013 6:21:49 PM PST by kcvl
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26 posted on 01/03/2013 6:24:29 PM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: Nachum

I hope this asshat lives between the home of a legal gun owner and the home of a child molester...

Let’s see who he worries about more...especially if he has children...

Freaking jack off...


27 posted on 01/03/2013 6:27:47 PM PST by JZoback
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To: Nachum
Former New York City mayoral candidate Mark Green...

Tattoo the "L" on his forehead...ridicule him...forget about him

Mark who? Magenta?

28 posted on 01/03/2013 6:32:07 PM PST by PGalt
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To: Nachum

In the Los Angeles School district, Child molesters can be teachers and are protected by the Teachers Union.

If this guy wants all gun owners on a list for everyone to access, this will just encourage gangs to come and break int those homes when the owners are gone and steal the guns. It’s like putting up a christmas list for criminal. Maybe, just maybe, that’s what this guy wants to do, is to create more crime and more killings and death. Libs, creating crime where there is now for 200 years


29 posted on 01/03/2013 6:33:31 PM PST by realcleanguy
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To: Nachum

In the Los Angeles School district, Child molesters can be teachers and are protected by the Teachers Union.

If this guy wants all gun owners on a list for everyone to access, this will just encourage gangs to come and break int those homes when the owners are gone and steal the guns. It’s like putting up a christmas list for criminal. Maybe, just maybe, that’s what this guy wants to do, is to create more crime and more killings and death. Libs, creating crime where there is now for 200 years


30 posted on 01/03/2013 6:33:46 PM PST by realcleanguy
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To: skeeter
I would register moronic liberal lawyers for the danger they pose to the public. How many child molesters are back on the streets raping children because of scumbags like Greene?
31 posted on 01/03/2013 6:36:45 PM PST by peeps36 (America is being destroyed by filthy traitors in the political establishment)
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To: cripplecreek
“They” never talk about that, because ya’ll are so close to Canada...where noncompliance with so-called mandatory registration of weapons became such a popular anti-government movement, that I think “they” finally quit trying, out of fear for their lives.

(I might be wrong on the quit trying part!)

I've found it works out better for society if everyone just assumes everyone else is also packing two or more lethal weapons, at all times.

32 posted on 01/03/2013 6:36:45 PM PST by sarasmom
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33 posted on 01/03/2013 6:43:09 PM PST by RedMDer (Those that believe in gun free zones should post gun free zone signs on their property and persons.)
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To: Nachum

How about disclosure on a website of the home addresses of anyone who’s ever had one of America’s 50+ million abortions? If a woman is willing to kill her own child, how safe if yours in the neighborhood?


34 posted on 01/03/2013 7:31:53 PM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: kcvl

http://bayterracecafe.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/mark-green.jpg

A lot of air in that head by the looks of it


35 posted on 01/03/2013 7:53:37 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: Nachum

why would anyone put any credibility of what this dolt says???? He has been around forever and hasn’t uttered a single lucid thought in his sorry career


36 posted on 01/03/2013 8:48:11 PM PST by terycarl
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To: Nachum
I will post parallels between liberals and nazis... but mine will be correct.
37 posted on 01/03/2013 9:43:00 PM PST by Tolkien (Grace is the Essence of the Gospel; Gratitude is the Essence of Ethics.)
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To: Nachum
I'll bet that Mark Green (who some say associates with some who are suspected of taking "liberties" with children) would be completely happy with forcing gun owners to wear gold stars on their clothing denoting them as gun owners.

Kind of like the Jews, you know?

38 posted on 01/03/2013 10:02:50 PM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Nachum
OK, I need to rethink concealed carry.

If ccl owners are put on public databases, then maybe, we need to stop concealed carrying and push for open carry.

I mean if it important for the general public to KNOW who has firearms, the lets all embrace open carry and say that politicians in NYC are the reason.

39 posted on 01/03/2013 10:52:47 PM PST by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: Nachum

Green claims he is a lawyer. After puking that fallacy of logic anyone who hires him is a fool.


40 posted on 01/03/2013 11:14:29 PM PST by Rebelbase
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