Skip to comments.(Vanity) What do you all think about leaving the GOP?
Posted on 01/03/2013 8:56:56 PM PST by ThunderSleeps
I'm fed up with the GOP. Lackluster performance the last few years. First they somehow let a relative nobody with no real experience beat them in 2008. Then they limp through 4 years allowing him to grind the Country down. Then they run another unsuccessful campaign against a guy with absolutely nothing going for him. obama had nothing on his record for 4 years - nothing that was a positive. Yet the GOP managed to lose to him and his machine, again. Beating obama in 2012 should've been like shooting fish in a barrel. Now they (the GOP Congress critters) cave on the fiscal negotiations.
Just register as independent. If the GOP conservatives court you then help them out. The hell with the rest.
Just wait, they'll leave you.
Crawl into a hole never to be heard from again. Same difference.
I left a long time ago. The GOP has ceased to be an effective vehicle for conservative principles.
gonna have to focus on making the GOP hold the line at the state and local level. We can do that and remain viable. If we don’t do that, kiss everything you care about goodbye. Abandoning them completely is a mistake for this reason.
Already left to be an Independent, back in 2011. I vote for the best candidate. Can’t think of one Dem I’ve voted for, however. Gee, wonder why not!
They left me years ago. I dumped them shortly thereafter.
I have been saying here for years that the GOP is not a Freeper’s friend and have been trashed wildly for saying it.
Now folks are beginning to wake up.
To the point.
Accurate to a tee.
I’d need to see a formal Tea Party political party to change the registration.
It is easier to conquer the Republicans from within and take over the party apparatus. We need another year like 2010.
I left in ‘92 right after Bush Sr. signed a budget that was $400 billion in the red. Voted for Marrou, Kemp, Bush, Bush, and Palin in the next five elections.
I thought it was a good thing to do when I did it back in 2007. Even more so now.
Dumping the GOP was the first thing I did after the election. Am now unaffiliated here in California. Decline to State basically. Since we have “open primaries” it doesn’t really have any effect except to send the message to the GOP — get conservative or get out.
Not that my vote ever counts in California anyway.
Of course I approve. Send the GOP a message and leave. NO MORE RINOs.
Don’t Leave! The GOP is going to give us a much better candidate than Romney in 2016. Rumor has it they plan to run Bob Dole.
In Canada, after Brian Mulroney, real conservatives destroyed the Progressive Conservatice Party, reducing it down to two seats. It took 20 years, and some reform to remake the party into something much more conservative.
We had the good fortune of not having to deal with Trudeau Liberals, who were interested in having a Soviet Canada.
My concern, if the constitutional conservatives abandon the Republican party, unfettered Democrats will move quickly to make ineffective the Constitution and, ensure permanent power for themselves. If I believed that there would be time to go through the process the conservatives, in my country, went through, I would whole heartedly support real conservatives walking away from the Republican party, and collapsing the whole thing.
However, I think it is still possible to remake the Republican party, from within. You just need to be willing to fight like a wildcat at every nomination meeting. We don’t need to win every Republican nomination, just enough of them.
The GOP has purged the tea party. The idea you can retake the GOP from inside is laughable. They will embrace Hispanics from now on like you can’t believe. They are moving to the left to be even more “moderate”.
The GOP is committing suicide.
I leftthem when they decided McLame was a good idea and crapped on Palin. They’re dead to me.
The Republican Party was formed to replace the Whigs, who couldn’t take a stand on the major issues of the day.
They did such a good job of replacing the Whigs that they have become the Whigs.
Our Political System is dependent upon the system that the candidate with the most votes wins. Thus, in a race with 3 candidates, the winner could win with 33 % of the votes cast plus one vote.
The major problem is that it is nearly impossible for one of the two largest parties to lose. Hence, there is NO change.
The two largest parties, call them ‘Tweedle Dumb’ and ‘Tweedle Dumber,’ will fight tooth and nail to prevent an election rule change to stipulate that the winning candidate must get 50 % of the votes cast plus one vote.
Thus, until election laws are changed to permit the 50 % plus one vote victory rule, a third party, such as the Tea Party, will be seen as a voter block at best.
IMHO, the best course is to dedicate a given amount of ya’lls time between now and November, 2014 to taking over the sorry RINO functions in your local area, County and State.
State at your first meeting your primary goals, and ask all in attendance to “Lead, Follow, or GET OUT OF THE WAY!”
Did so yesterday morning .. first order of business in 2013 !
Have you ever done anything, within the political arena? you sound like an angry jerk who only wants to bitch.
Your complaint is with human nature.
There is NO chance that we will ever have a perfect political party.
How does one DE-register?
Do what you feel is right and DO NOT sycophants on FR or anywhere divert your intent, whatever it may be by whining about irrelevancy or any of a million other excuses.
It comes down to this. Support the problem or not. If you feel (as I do) the GOP has become the Dem party, then your path is clear.
I left years ago, but can still vote for their crappy, Rino candidates whenever I want.
What did 2010 accomplish?
I did so about a year ago. I have no regrets..I still vote that way as long as it’s on conservative principals...I actually felt very liberated leaving the GOP. I previously had been a registered R since I was 18. They are’nt what they use to be. So for me, my Lord which is Jesus, is my guide and decision for party principal.
Fold on the debt limit and I’m gone. Bags are packed now
Alaska looks good
“I didn’t leave the Democratic party. It left me.”
Ronald Reagan, 1962
Guess what, boys? The GOP’s left. And that ain’t right.
If we made some noise, they may accommodate us, just like they accommodate Christians, and guns. If Repubs lose the gun people or the Christians, or both, they are finished as a party. The Tea Party would scoop them up in a minute. The problem with the Tea Party is they just go for taxes and spending and steer clear of social issues and guns.
I'm old enough to remember the days of the Rockefeller Republicans and all they wanted was lower taxes. They didn't give a damn about anything else.
They lost........all the time. When Pat Robertson brought the Christians in for social reasons, we had a winning party. The Repubs are going to have to admit they need the Tea Party or they will never win again. If they don't cater to The Tea Party, IMHO, they will go somewhere else. We all will lose then, just like the 3rd parties throughout history.
I don’t understand the concept. I never “went” to something call the GOP. I didn’t “enter” a place called “GOP”, so I don’t know how you would “leave” it.
My political strategy is to vote in every election, for the person who most closely reflects what I believe to be correct. I rarely get an opportunity to vote for a candidate who I agree with 100%. But I often have a chance to vote for a decent candidate, at least in a primary if not a general election.
For a time I hung out in a republican committee, since there are virtually no democrats I have met recently that end up being a better choice than whatever the republicans put up.
In rare occasions, no candidates are acceptable. In those cases, I don’t vote for that office. In 2008, that was going to happen for me in my congressional district, because Republican Tom Davis had just made too many bad choices. But then he quit; I was able to vote for a decent republican who had no chance of beating the democrat.
So if you are saying that from now on, you won’t just vote for the republican because he has an “R” next to his name, I’m with you. If you are saying that you will refuse to vote for the best candidate running, out of spite, I would disagree.
But I would say that you should NEVER vote against your own conscience; I would never urge you to vote for someone you thought was a mistake, even if I thought that person was good enough to vote for.
Leaving the GOP isn’t going to help. Staying in the GOP
isn’t going to help.
As long as libtards dominate the delivery of information and education
they will control more and more.
It’s cold here.
But, come on up.
I registered as Independent when I moved in 2006 and again in 2010. Through with the Republicans and their wimp nominees and tactics.
The GOP-e don't want conservatives showing up to precinct, county, state, or the national conventions. They don't want conservatives voting in closed state primaries.
They want you registered as libertarians or Independents, so that liberals completely control the mechinations of both parties.
Because, and only because, conservatives have left the GOP, liberals now control who gets on the ballots in all 50 states. Liberals control party rules for the only two parties that will be on the ballots in all 50 states.
Liberals show up for local party functions for both parties, in sufficient numbers to run the business for both parties.
Conservatives complain after the fact that the liberals running their local GOP aren't doing it right.
Libertarians smoke dope and molest their neighbors' livestock, then stage stupid protests at the conventions of other parties.
Independents let other people run the meetings, primaries and conventions of the two major parties, then complain that their only choices are between two liberals on the two main party tickets.
And liberals win another election.
Left a month ago. Tired of toeing the line.
Rocky Burnette 1980
So then what is your alternative. It’s a two party system.
Would you rather the Obama minions rule you unopposed.
great. just register as an independent or “decline to state” or whatever your state requires and then try to get/find conservatives to run in whatever party they want.
just act as a member of a defacto conservative party. once you start thinking that way. it’s easy to determine who to vote for and who to ignore.
I am not even going to vote anymore.
That would be the only thing that I can think of that would help at this point. I have been a registered (Conservative) "U" in my state for years. "U" is "Undeclared."
uh. look. conservatives can’t unite behind the GOP. it just hasn’t happened. so why keep beating a dead horse. the liberals are in power, nationally, anyway so there is certainly nothing to lose. so what’s your point. the GOP is glad to see us go and we’re glad to go. it’s a win win. we win because we can work at the state and county level to get trustworthy conservatives into the system as independents or whatever they can best run as.
we can, however, unite as independents, other, decline to state, etc. that may be the path to forming a true third conservative party. anyway it’s a start. it’s the path i and many of my conservative friends are taking in the lost land of ca for sure.
History repeats itself.
Don’t remember exact quote.
Ronald Reagan said that he didn’t leave the democratic party, they left him . 1950’s I believe .
Don’t be silly.....Mitt Romney will run again with Christie for Extra RINO credentials. Any REAL Conservative canidate will be frozen out in 2016 as the GOP-e (Surrender Monkies) will argue that the Country has moved “Left”. I bet Mitt can lose by a MUCH larger margin to Hillary!
Long post you got there CharlesWayneCT.
I agree with it.
Since 1988, I only voted For Bush in ‘88 and Bush in ‘04. All the rest I just pressed the “R” button.
If the selection doesn’t get better next time ,
I won’t be pushing the “R” button. It won’t be the
“D” button either.
A party that feckless can easily be taken over by those with the will to do it. See tag.
As usual, the Pubbies run when the chips are down and the Dems circle the wagons.
I say open fire on the socialists.
Maybe Boehner et al won’t do it but the Tea Party has been MIA for 3 years.
This aint all Boehners fault.
Isn’t that exactly what they do now?
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