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When They Take Our Guns, They Take Everything
Right Side News ^ | 04 January 2013 | J. D. Longstreet

Posted on 01/04/2013 7:40:46 AM PST by arthurus

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To: Sirius Lee

What do I have backwards? THEY control the banking system....I do not control it....You do not control it...The president of the local bank sure the he does not control it.

So tell me, where do I have it backwards when I say “they” control the banking system? Huh? I think I am dead smack on....

As far as debtor/serf, you may be forced into being a debtor/serfdom.....me I am freeman and free of the banking system as of the EOY. No checking account to speak of and deals are cash or barter.

I will bet the farm that you cannot say that.....now who has it backwards???


51 posted on 01/04/2013 11:05:54 AM PST by eartick
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To: Wonder Warthog

Voting in elections is a superfluous concern. All the pieces are in place. They are making their move. Be prepared to make yours.


52 posted on 01/04/2013 11:09:39 AM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Sibelius is in on this: If all else fails, guns will be declared a health hazard. CDC, AMA, APA, Etc will all support. Guns will need to be declared to health care providers and insurance providers. Soft Tyranny becomes Hard.

I have long said, as a doc, that if someone else is paying for you healthcare, they will demand control over your entire life if they can get it. Feds can get it. Won’t even require an EO - DHHS will simply regulate it.

Be Prepared.


53 posted on 01/04/2013 11:15:27 AM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: arthurus

Your fellow Americans are not going to lay down and whimper. The problem is that there are, at this point in time, in the minority. While there are more than it now seems, there are fewer than there need to be. The problem is the parasites, both the wealthy and unwealthy who are here living off the fat of the land, only wanting more and more. I delibrately did not use the terms “rich” and “poor” because both groups are poor.They are poor in character. One group just have more money than the other group. Both groups have a desire to live as slaves. One group fot the “security they believe it gives them, the other group for the privileges they believe it gives them over their fellows. Where are those tow groups found? Everywhere. Hollywood is full of them. Congress is full of them. The media is full of them. Cities are full of them, whose only goal in life is to fornicate and do drugs, depending on the political parasites to rob and steal from the producers and rightful owners of the fruits of their labor in order for them to maintain their lifestyle. To return the favor, they or someone using their name continues to vote the political parasites and theieves in office.


54 posted on 01/04/2013 11:20:30 AM PST by sport
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To: MachIV

“If you have land to bury stuff on, I recommend a trip to your neighborhood building supply store for some pvc pipe, end caps, plumbers glue, and a lot of dessicant.”

Yep, Yep, and Yep.

“Shoulda been done long ago . . . .”

“Tin soldiers and Obama coming,
We’re finally on our own.
This summer I hear the drumming.
More dead in Ohio.”


55 posted on 01/04/2013 11:24:29 AM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: Biggirl

Like I said, nonsense. You live in one of the most restrictive states in the union. Why haven’t you started shooting long ago?


56 posted on 01/04/2013 12:20:41 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: RC one

I sat-down to write a letter about gun control to James “Sleeze” McGovern, Liz Liawatha, and John F’n Kerry — then laughed and tore it up.


57 posted on 01/04/2013 12:44:46 PM PST by pabianice (washington, dc ..)
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To: Eye of Unk

It’s time for us to push as hard back as they are pushing. It’s time for SOMEONE to introduce legislation repealing the failed Gun Free School Zones Act. NY it’s time to repeal the Sullivan Act.


58 posted on 01/04/2013 1:00:49 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: elcid1970

The fact that the State does not want its’ citizens to possess high capacity magazines, is inherent proof of their effectiveness.


59 posted on 01/04/2013 1:10:35 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: baddog 219

Will make a nice target for the range


60 posted on 01/04/2013 1:45:41 PM PST by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: arthurus

I can’t believe we’re falling so quietly. :(


61 posted on 01/04/2013 1:54:17 PM PST by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: ez

Repeal 922(o). They’re worried about “assault weapons”? Push for eliminating the prohibition on post-’86 full autos.


62 posted on 01/04/2013 1:54:59 PM PST by ctdonath2 (End of debate. Your move.)
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To: arthurus
Imagine this..

"Hey Adam, be sure to use the .223 rifle for your murders. Assault weapons pose the greatest threat to the government because they are long range weapons. It's the rifles we seek to ban.. Don't use your hand guns, Adam.. It's the rifle you must use, even though you'll only be 20 feet or so from the children.. It makes no sense, but you MUST use that 'assault weapon' of yours so that afterwards we may enlist the support of every American into accepting a ban of the weapons we the government fear the most. Got it, Adam?"

Merely a FANTASY QUOTE but something to think about.

63 posted on 01/04/2013 2:15:16 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: pabianice
I sat-down to write a letter about gun control to James “Sleeze” McGovern, Liz Liawatha, and John F’n Kerry — then laughed and tore it up.

I agree. All this nonsense about writing letters, emails, phone calls, tweets, twits, shits, whatever it may be, DOESN'T WORK. They ignore EVERYTHING.

The only thing to get their attention is a face to face confrontation. THAT'S what it's boiling down to. And they will lose.

64 posted on 01/04/2013 2:25:22 PM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: paul51

Most likely it will start in one of the states that does not have unbelievalbe restrictions on gun ownership first in an effort to overwhelm that state.

I for one does not want to see a hot war to start, but with the divisions being so bad, it would not surprise me though.


65 posted on 01/04/2013 2:25:30 PM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: apillar
But saying some nonexistent Assault Weapons Ban is not only imminent, but is virtually assured of passage is nothing but hyperbole, unless somebody can provide some evidence to the contrary, I don't see the Republican leadership ever even letting such a bill get out of the committee process.

Obama could issue an Executive Order directing ATF and FBI to construct the national gun-owner registry that Congress has repeatedly told him he cannot have.

Using Form 4473, pawn shop and other records, something like a rough list of everyone in the country who owns guns could be assembled very quickly, which RatRoots could then use to harass and menace gun owners directly.

In short, Barky plays nasty, and with the tools at his disposal, he could do a lot.

It would be more timely from his POV, to wait until he's used the "fiscal cliff" or some other phony "fiscal crisis" to blow down the military and purge out patriots, leaving the scum-sucking "New America" military that would follow his orders and happily kill Americans in any play to war down the Constitution of the United States.

66 posted on 01/04/2013 2:26:03 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: MachIV
If you have land to bury stuff on, ... and a lot of dessicant.

And while you're at it, get a bunch of scrap iron, two-penny spikes, railroad spikes, and other bits and pieces to strew around your property -- drive them well into the dirt -- to screw up metal detectors. Hell, bury a few random 18" lengths of 1" galvanized pipe, using a trencher, just to bugger them up good.

67 posted on 01/04/2013 2:35:44 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: Eye of Unk

***** “Well then it is happening elsewhere then. Gun shows are having their permits revoked.” *******

We have a big Gun Show scheduled this weekend in our little town, it normally has a pretty good turn out, but this one has been hyped and advertised and I am betting that parking a block or two away will be prime parking.

Hope they have ammo

TT


68 posted on 01/04/2013 4:09:46 PM PST by TexasTransplant (This needs to go viral http://vimeo.com/52009124 please watch it)
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To: MachIV

If you have to bury your firearms you have already given in ...

TT


69 posted on 01/04/2013 4:11:47 PM PST by TexasTransplant (This needs to go viral http://vimeo.com/52009124 please watch it)
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To: ez

Bump


70 posted on 01/04/2013 4:14:10 PM PST by TexasTransplant (This needs to go viral http://vimeo.com/52009124 please watch it)
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To: baddog 219

You left out the “N” between the “O” and the “I”.


71 posted on 01/04/2013 4:29:36 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: TexasTransplant

Who said all of them were going to be buried?


72 posted on 01/04/2013 4:53:15 PM PST by MachIV
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To: MachIV

“If you have land to bury stuff on, I recommend a trip to your neighborhood building supply store for some pvc pipe, end caps, plumbers glue, and a lot of dessicant.”

Which you should acquire at different places and different times and pay cash for.

But remember: “If it’s time to bury them, it’s time to dig them up.”


73 posted on 01/04/2013 5:02:27 PM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: MachIV
If you have land to bury stuff on, I recommend a trip to your neighborhood building supply store for some pvc pipe, end caps, plumbers glue, and a lot of dessicant.

And when do you plan to fight, sir? When all the patriots have fought and died?

74 posted on 01/04/2013 5:08:44 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: MachIV

Yeah, I see your point, if I survive the first encounter I will need to re-arm.

TT


75 posted on 01/04/2013 5:47:55 PM PST by TexasTransplant (This needs to go viral http://vimeo.com/52009124 please watch it)
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To: arthurus
ou see, I am having difficulty grasping the fact that my fellow Americans are going to lie down, whimpering, as the bullies of the political left just run right over them.

Try finding an evil "black gun" or ammunition for it at a reasonable price right now......then ask yourself if arming to the teeth sounds like preparing to lie down and whimper. No one is buying at these prices and paying through the nose so they can just hand them over out of the goodness of their heart.

Some of my friends have been historically harassed by their other half after every firearm purchase.....now have pissed off wives asking them - "do we have enough ammo," or "should we get a few more magazines for my rifle?"

76 posted on 01/04/2013 6:03:42 PM PST by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: OldPossum

Don’t make presumptions about someone that you don’t know a damn thing about.


77 posted on 01/04/2013 6:06:27 PM PST by MachIV
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To: MachIV

“I honestly lose sleep over this.”

I can’t blame you. We’re doomed.


78 posted on 01/04/2013 6:10:57 PM PST by Absolutely Nobama (The Doomsday Clock is at 11:59:00......tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock.....)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Oh yes it can! Look at the 1968 Gun Control Act and Clinton’s AW ban. How did they pass?

The claim authority by way of that steaming pile of socialist sophistry referred to in polite company as the "New Deal Commerce Clause". Basically they claim the right to regulate anything that has a "substantial effect on interstate commerce".

They do the same for the DEA and EPA, so they're getting ready to ban posession of guns like they banned posession of marijuana. How's that been working out for them?

79 posted on 01/04/2013 6:28:24 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: eartick
What do I have backwards? THEY control the banking system...

No, the banking system controls the government, and media. That's why I told you that you have it backwards, and still do. The kenyan doesn't call the shots. The central banks do.

80 posted on 01/04/2013 6:51:11 PM PST by Sirius Lee (Get your hair clippers, Patriots! The Vichy Republicans asked for it. 2014!)
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To: Obadiah

>>Where is the NRA? Yes, they had their dog and pony show<<

Let the NRA do what the NRA does. You, begin networking with folks in your area.

It is time to find folks who are willing to aid one another.


81 posted on 01/04/2013 7:47:54 PM PST by servantboy777
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To: MachIV
Cloth and rice.....works very well as a dessicant.
82 posted on 01/04/2013 7:58:37 PM PST by servantboy777
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To: Absolutely Nobama
>>I can’t blame you. We’re doomed<<

Oh for crying out loud, no were not.

It's like a dog that's gotten into the chicken pen and tasted the blood of those birds, you'll never be able to keep’em out of the pen.

This generation of Americans know what freedom is, we will NOT give it up without locking horns.

Doomed? Not by a long shot...pardon the pun.

83 posted on 01/04/2013 8:08:23 PM PST by servantboy777
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To: servantboy777

You’re right. I’m just so aggravated.....


84 posted on 01/04/2013 9:31:40 PM PST by Absolutely Nobama (The Doomsday Clock is at 11:59:00......tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock.....)
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To: Absolutely Nobama

I know, it’s tough to keep thoughts straight when so much is coming at us all at once.

We are all on the same side and we need to figure ways to network, solidify and help one another prepare for any eventualities.

God bless.


85 posted on 01/05/2013 6:18:50 AM PST by servantboy777
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To: tacticalogic
How's that been working out for them?

Pretty good, actually. The Raich decision by the supreme court illustrates it perfectly: the court claimed that the drug-prohibition laws were legitimate under the commerce-clause -- even in the case of home-grown marijuana, which was not sold inter- or intra-state -- because the lack of a market [the substance being illegal] did impact commerce, because if it did exist then it would.
That is the sort of non-logic the courts [and other government branches] have been shoving at us for years.

The Obamacare decision, contrary to what some believe, did not set any limit on the "commerce clause" but instead opened "taxation" up to be nothing more than extortion, stripping it of the last vestiges of legitimacy that it had:

The obtaining of property from another induced by wrongful use of actual or threatened force, violence, or fear, or under color of official right.

Under the Common Law, extortion is a misdemeanor consisting of an unlawful taking of money by a government officer. It is an oppressive misuse of the power with which the law clothes a public officer.

Source: legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com

86 posted on 01/05/2013 12:39:46 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: ctdonath2
Repeal 922(o). They’re worried about “assault weapons”? Push for eliminating the prohibition on post-’86 full autos.

The prohibition is legally invalid: United States v. Rock Island Armory

Unfortunately this legal precedent is ignored in the legal-world, because to acknowledge it would be to cut off a huge chunk of the power they have over firearms... that, in turn, could also lead to some serious paring down of powers in other arenas the Government has over-reached in.

87 posted on 01/05/2013 12:44:36 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

It’s a cookie jar full of hand grenades.


88 posted on 01/05/2013 12:49:23 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Alas, the ruling’s nuance was that they can’t prosecute you for not paying a tax if, by law, they can’t accept it. Portions of NFA ‘34 are rendered impotent by the existence of 922(o). The case did not invalidate 922(o), and if 922(o) falls then relevant parts of NFA resume effect.


89 posted on 01/05/2013 1:47:31 PM PST by ctdonath2 (End of debate. Your move.)
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To: Biggirl; arthurus; Sirius Lee

“Civil war is coming. Please see post number 8. I predict this WILL happen.”

Correction...it is not ‘Civil War’, it is a 2nd American Revolution.


90 posted on 01/05/2013 2:17:48 PM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: Empire_of_Liberty

I was an NRA member for a couple years.

Susan G Komen? The Red Cross? Unicef? Salvation Army?

Those guys are pikers compared to the NRA. Couple times a week, I’d have mail or phone calls begging for cash and giving the saddest stories you can imagine.

It was embarrassing to even be associated with them. Truly morose!

These guys have begging down to a fine art.


91 posted on 01/05/2013 2:22:51 PM PST by djf (Conservative values help the poor. Liberal values help them STAY poor!!!)
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To: ctdonath2
Alas, the ruling’s nuance was that they can’t prosecute you for not paying a tax if, by law, they can’t accept it. Portions of NFA ‘34 are rendered impotent by the existence of 922(o). The case did not invalidate 922(o), and if 922(o) falls then relevant parts of NFA resume effect.

This is true; however, [forcing] this would put the argument back to Constitutionality, rather than the "willy-nilly"/"might-makes-right" that we have now.
I mean right now we have the worst of both worlds; the enforcers will gladly tell you that it is illegal to even manufacture machine-guns, though that is not the case.

92 posted on 01/06/2013 7:49:35 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Eye of Unk

Not here in Texas...

Matter of fact, I am amazed at how often gunshows and other gun retail outlets are advertizing on the radio in Houston...

Granted, there may be some lilly-livered demographics in other places around the country where it is frowned upon, but that is NO concern of mine...

The people will know what is at stake, those that care enough to fully understand the ramifications of ANY covert, or outright action legislatively, or executively on our moral right to keep and bear arms...

They do so at their own risk now...WE are watching very closely what they are doing...The second we lapse enough for them to feel they can get it through, they will...

So...What are some of you prepared to do about this??? And what are you willing to sacrifice for your vigilance???

That is a rhetorical question, and in no need to be answered in a public forum...Remember, this is a monitored website...


93 posted on 01/07/2013 8:11:53 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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