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Your Answer When They Come For Your Guns
Freedom Outpost ^ | January 4, 2013 | Gordan Runyan

Posted on 01/04/2013 5:21:52 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

I have previously written here and here about appropriate tactics for patriots to take (including Christian patriots) when we come to the realization that the current government of our land is tyrannical, and moving in the direction of further, more intensive despotism.

I’d like to add another tactic to that list today; and, that tactic is deception.

I realize that as soon as I suggest that deception is an appropriate tool for the opposition of tyrants, I’m going to lose some of my fellow Christians. However, I beg a patient audience, as I will later try to show that the Bible itself endorses this idea. And when I suggest that Scripture endorses the move to deceive tyrants, I use that word advisedly. I don’t mean to merely say that Scripture allows deception in this case. I mean that the Bible endorses it. It commends it. It holds it up in more than one place as an act of faith.

Especially since we have moved into the Information Age, the American Federal government has sought to become a master collector of information. Information is the new currency, especially in endeavors such as the War on Terror. Information is so important that the government has launched an initiative, with the Utah Data Center, to (in fact) capture every piece of electronic communication that flies through cyberspace...

(Excerpt) Read more at freedomoutpost.com ...


TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Conspiracy; Government; Religion
KEYWORDS: banglist; bloodoftyrants; democrats; gunconfiscation; guncontrol; nocompromise; secondamendment; tyranny; youwillnodisarmus
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1 posted on 01/04/2013 5:21:59 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
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2 posted on 01/04/2013 5:23:14 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hide them in the back yard, go to the police station and report that they were stolen. Then, you’ve got them when the thugs come to take them away unsuspecting trouble.


3 posted on 01/04/2013 5:23:29 PM PST by rovenstinez
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

God told Samuel to lie to Saul, when Samuel was going to annoint David as the new king.


4 posted on 01/04/2013 5:25:22 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

Looking at the 94 vote results, if Boehner allows a vote on a gun ban it will pass 236-199 That is with 13% of Dems voting no due to Blue dog, and 26% of Repubs voting Yea same as 1994 because save the children.


5 posted on 01/04/2013 5:27:40 PM PST by omega4179 ( Huelo azufre)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The answer is I probably will not be the first asked....

So at that point, I will not be playing defense, I’ll be playing offense....

I won’t hide them, I won’t lie about them...

I won’t need to, they will know I have them...


6 posted on 01/04/2013 5:27:45 PM PST by nevergore ("It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.")
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To: rovenstinez
I always liked the tipped over canoe answer.

Sorry, Obama Scutzstaffel, I was out on the lake and well, you know, things happen. All firearms were lost.

Oh, that gun safe in my office? It holds my personal papers.

You can't open it without violating the 4th amendment. Sorry.

Secure in our papers and all that...

7 posted on 01/04/2013 5:28:32 PM PST by boop ("You don't look so bad, here's another")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
They’ll be there because of an anonymous tip that you are a gun owner, blah, blah, blah. How will you answer?

Mine have been turned into an art project illustrating the historical nature of manufacturing around the world. Any attempt to confiscate is going against free speech and freedom of expression. Will they really start seizing artist’s works? Will burning books come next?

8 posted on 01/04/2013 5:28:33 PM PST by mnehring
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

no se nada


9 posted on 01/04/2013 5:28:48 PM PST by rolling_stone
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To: Jonty30

The Russian dissidents said if we had only resisted they would have stopped knocking on our doors.


10 posted on 01/04/2013 5:30:01 PM PST by omega4179 ( Huelo azufre)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
You go to some church with a rock band and sermons based on movies; and your metrosexual pastor has assured you that things have changed since the Old Covenant gave way to the New. We can’t necessarily deal with governments the way the righteous people of the Old Testament did, etcetera, etcetera, yadda, yadda.

The problem with this notion is that the New Testament does not really give any cover for Christians to disobey or rebel against their government, except insofar as they are obligated to disobey them when commanded to do something against God's commands.

And the Roman Empire was a good deal more oppressive than the US government of today. Haven't noticed any public crucifixions or feeding of dissidents to wild animals recently.

11 posted on 01/04/2013 5:30:30 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Here’s the trick. Go pick up a couple of expended anti-tank rocket tubes like the LAPD are paying 200 bucks for. When they come to the door, give them to the gun Nazis and tell them about how happy you are that they came to take them off of your hands. They’ll get so excited that they’ll wet their pants and will forget all about asking about guns.


12 posted on 01/04/2013 5:31:38 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Where can I pick up a 2013 Mayan calendar?)
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To: omega4179

I agree with the Russian dissidents.


13 posted on 01/04/2013 5:31:38 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What guns?


14 posted on 01/04/2013 5:31:50 PM PST by MestaMachine (It's the !!!!TREASON!!!!, stupid!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If you wait until they come for YOUR gun, you’ve waited too long.

A vigorous, organized response when the very first confiscations start will cause the police to refuse the job.

Disarming the police involved and sending them walking home in their underwear would be a good start.


15 posted on 01/04/2013 5:32:25 PM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I just saw Whoraldo advocating that gun owners should have a red dot sticker on their window to let people know they have an implement for protection. These people need a serious brush back pitch.


16 posted on 01/04/2013 5:32:34 PM PST by samadams2000
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"I donated them to Hollywood as movie props. Insert Liberal Hollywood Actor Asshat Here has them. Go search his mansion..."
17 posted on 01/04/2013 5:33:22 PM PST by TADSLOS (I took extra credit at the School of Hard Knocks)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m purchasing my PVC pipe next week.


18 posted on 01/04/2013 5:33:58 PM PST by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I will react the same as I would to anyone coming to my house to steal from me.


19 posted on 01/04/2013 5:34:31 PM PST by Matthew10 (I learned war by reading 1 Samuel chapter 15.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My neighbor has 160 acres. I have a shovel.


20 posted on 01/04/2013 5:34:43 PM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Daves not here.....


21 posted on 01/04/2013 5:35:27 PM PST by Breto (Stranger in a strange land... where did America go?)
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To: Jonty30

I don’t deny your accuracy, but please provide the Scriptural reference so that we may confirm your statement.


22 posted on 01/04/2013 5:35:27 PM PST by RoosterRedux (Liberty and Freedom!)
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To: nevergore

They will know we are armed if they search our house, not because they can find the guns but they will know that the elk, both bears and all those whitetail bucks did NOT die of natural causes. I can’t say they are road kill can I? I didn’t think so....... :[


23 posted on 01/04/2013 5:36:42 PM PST by Ditter
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To: Sherman Logan

So you find the Founders guilty of high treason. Good to know. If true, then the current government isn’t a valid government is it?

You have nothing left to do but martyr yourself.


24 posted on 01/04/2013 5:37:34 PM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: samadams2000
My Neighbor's House is unarmed!
25 posted on 01/04/2013 5:38:09 PM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: RoosterRedux

1 Samuel 16.

The primary reason was to anoint David. Every other reason was a distractikb from the primary reason.


26 posted on 01/04/2013 5:40:03 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: cripplecreek
My answer will be organized with my neighbors. Our answer will be armed resistance. That is the first time when they attempt to take our guns. After that we will be on the offensive.

I am completely convinced that if gun confiscation occurs that it will only be a matter of time before more of our freedoms and liberties are eliminated, ultimately culminating with reeducation camps and mass executions of conservative Christians.

I will not lie, but I will hide numerous weapons and stores of ammo away from my home.

27 posted on 01/04/2013 5:41:51 PM PST by ConservativeInPA
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Movie props.
http://www.411toys.com/air.html


28 posted on 01/04/2013 5:42:00 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Sherman Logan

Anything the government requires you to do that reduces your ability to protect your family goes against God’s commands.


29 posted on 01/04/2013 5:42:53 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not NurtureĀ™)
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To: Ditter

I will view it as an act of terror and intimidation when the power structure comes to my door to see if I am exercising my inalienable right.


30 posted on 01/04/2013 5:43:08 PM PST by samadams2000
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To: NewJerseyJoe

You used to be able to buy storage bags for firearms. The ones to keep them from rusting. I cant find them on CTD or midwayUSA’s site now.


31 posted on 01/04/2013 5:43:18 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
MOLON LABE
32 posted on 01/04/2013 5:43:51 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Obama: Brought to you by the letter "O" and the number 16 trillion.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
MOLON LABE
33 posted on 01/04/2013 5:44:10 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Obama: Brought to you by the letter "O" and the number 16 trillion.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When they come for my guns I’m assuming that I’ll die, because they have more guns than me. How many guns do I have? I’d tell you, but that would spoil the surprise.


34 posted on 01/04/2013 5:45:20 PM PST by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Blam Blam Blam Blam Blam Blam Blam Blam-clink

Ka-Chunk Blam Blam Blam Blam Blam Blam Blam Blam-clink,...


35 posted on 01/04/2013 5:46:45 PM PST by meyer (Proud member of the 53%.)
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To: mnehring

The scarier looking, the better. They gotta look scary for the teasers for the Nightly News with Chip and Muffy.


36 posted on 01/04/2013 5:47:24 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Where can I pick up a 2013 Mayan calendar?)
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To: boop

If you are immature and dumb enough to believe they’ll buy that childish story, you must have been a funny three year old.


37 posted on 01/04/2013 5:48:19 PM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: Breto
Daves not here.....

LOL. Open up!

38 posted on 01/04/2013 5:48:51 PM PST by Jane Long (Philippians 2:11)
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To: SampleMan

****** “Disarming the police involved and sending them walking home in their underwear would be a good start.” *******

And making sure that it is captured on their Dash Cam and posted on YouTube

TT


39 posted on 01/04/2013 5:52:31 PM PST by TexasTransplant (This needs to go viral http://vimeo.com/52009124 please watch it)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Well heck then. I'm turning in this.

https://www.combattrainingaids.com/product-tags/rocket-launcher-prop


40 posted on 01/04/2013 5:52:50 PM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehring

LOL!


41 posted on 01/04/2013 5:54:25 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Where can I pick up a 2013 Mayan calendar?)
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To: theBuckwheat

Spray your newly-dug hole with water to conceal the recently disturbed soil. The hajis did that in Iraq and that made it practically impossible to see if/where any holes had been dug.


42 posted on 01/04/2013 5:54:34 PM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Sherman Logan

“Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.” ~Matthew 5:17


43 posted on 01/04/2013 5:54:56 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: lightman

Confiscation Ping.


44 posted on 01/04/2013 5:55:09 PM PST by carriage_hill ("I meant to say maggot, but I have a lisp.")
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To: SampleMan

Didn’t say that. Only pointed out that the articles claim that this type of deceit is approved by the bible is not accurate.

There are plenty of other non-biblical reasons for doing this type of thing.


45 posted on 01/04/2013 5:55:52 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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46 posted on 01/04/2013 5:57:01 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: SampleMan

And absolutely the Founders were guilty of high treason under British law. As they would have been the first to agree.

“If this be treason, make the most of it.”


47 posted on 01/04/2013 5:57:22 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: nevergore

>>won’t hide them, I won’t lie about them...<<

The only thing I will say, “please allow my wife to pass.”

Give up your weapons, hand over your freedom.

Just as Col. Travis...draw a line in the sand.

Remember the Alamo!


48 posted on 01/04/2013 5:57:38 PM PST by servantboy777
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“I turned them into lawn ornaments. Want to see my forge?”


49 posted on 01/04/2013 5:58:17 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: theBuckwheat

****** “My neighbor has 160 acres. I have a shovel.” *******

Two questions...

Is he a “Good Neighbor?”

“Do you understand that that shovel has MANY uses”

(Shoot Shovel and Shut up)

I envy you, my neighbor only has 5 acres.

TT


50 posted on 01/04/2013 5:58:46 PM PST by TexasTransplant (This needs to go viral http://vimeo.com/52009124 please watch it)
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