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Of alarms, militias, and destiny
Bob Owens ^ | 01/04/13 | Bob Owens

Posted on 01/04/2013 6:45:07 PM PST by Wisconsinlady

Anyone familiar with an accurate telling of the political truths leading up to the events of mid-April, 1775 in small towns and villages west of Boston knows that while the Colonials and their British masters were at loggerheads for the better part of a decade over a number of issues including taxation and liberty, the immediate and proximate trigger of the first American Revolutionary war was an attempt by General Thomas Gage to disarm the Colonists.

Yes, the American Revolution was triggered by a gun control raid that was met with force by the American people.

(Excerpt) Read more at bob-owens.com ...


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KEYWORDS: alarms; banglist; bobowens; destiny; guncontrol; militias; secondamendment; youwillnotdisarmus
That the AR-15 is the single most protected firearm under the clear intention of the Founding Fathers for citizens to be armed with weapons of military utility is not up for debate or discussion. By function and role, it is the firearm of the American Patriot and militiaman.

Any attempt to strip the American citizen of the AR-15 or similar firearms is an attack on the very fabric of our Republic, an affront to the clean intent of the Founders, an assault on the plain meaning of the Constitution, and a attempted rape of Liberty.

1 posted on 01/04/2013 6:45:17 PM PST by Wisconsinlady
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To: Wisconsinlady
Ma'am, they can pass whatever “law” they will, and I will do whatever I will.
2 posted on 01/04/2013 6:52:03 PM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Wisconsinlady

Back in 1970, the anti-gunners hated handguns so bad they suddenly discovered the Supreme Court’s Miller Decision.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Miller

The claim was this..

1. The NFA is intended as a revenue-collecting measure and therefore within the authority of the Department of the Treasury.
2. The defendants transported the shotgun from Oklahoma to Arkansas, and therefore used it in interstate commerce.

PAY ATTENTION HERE!
3. The Second Amendment protects only the ownership of military-type weapons appropriate for use in an organized militia.

4. The “double barrel 12-gauge Stevens shotgun having a barrel less than 18 inches in length, bearing identification number 76230” was never used in any militia organization.

This immediately led to a series of TV scripts that claimed handguns were not protected but RIFLES were blessed by the SCOTUS. Even the citcom ALL IN THE FAMILY spouted the lib line of “handguns bad, rifles good”!

Now, military rifles are BAD, BAD, BAD!


3 posted on 01/04/2013 6:57:03 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (GUNS.. the rightful property of freemen, and formidable only to tyrannical governments.”)
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To: Wisconsinlady

I’m not real clear as to why, but apparently, the creepy new dictatorship wishes to face the business end of a Remington 700 Sendero topped with a fine telescopic sight, or a Remington 870 with buckshot up close. Medium powered AR’s and AK’s really really bother them, but they seem to think they somehow can prevail against Remington products. Odd,,,very odd.

And they seem to have no almost fear at whatsoever of the most deadly sniper rifle in history, the iron sighted Finnish Mosin Nagant as used by Simo Hayha.


4 posted on 01/04/2013 7:00:47 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Wisconsinlady

Excellent read


5 posted on 01/04/2013 7:10:05 PM PST by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: Wisconsinlady

Bob Owens interviewed by PJTV

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENBVyOF2FKs


6 posted on 01/04/2013 7:22:19 PM PST by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: Wisconsinlady

“Yes, the American Revolution was triggered by a gun control raid”

Yup, but this time, the limeys are of American blood. To add, this King George is a foreigner.


7 posted on 01/04/2013 8:30:29 PM PST by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: NewJerseyJoe

P4L


8 posted on 01/04/2013 8:32:04 PM PST by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: max americana

“Yup, but this time, the limeys are of American blood. To add, this King George is a foreigner”

That alone should make us want to fight even harder.


9 posted on 01/04/2013 8:33:50 PM PST by Wisconsinlady (The only thing to stop a bad person with a gun, is a good person with a gun.)
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To: DesertRhino

“And they seem to have no almost fear at whatsoever of the most deadly sniper rifle in history, the iron sighted Finnish Mosin Nagant as used by Simo Hayha.”

He must figure he has enough people in front of him willing to die for him...


10 posted on 01/04/2013 8:36:05 PM PST by Wisconsinlady (The only thing to stop a bad person with a gun, is a good person with a gun.)
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To: Wisconsinlady

I live about six miles from here, and I drive by this on my way to work. I don't even think of it most of the time. A couple of years ago, I was driving that way on the morning that a big computer system I had been working to install for two years was going live.

I had been up until about 0300, and decided to drive home and get some good sleep and drive back in around 0900, because I would likely be there for the next 24 hours.

So, on the last day of a bitter cold and blustery February, I was driving down that road past the bridge, and there were no cars anywhere. When I went to cross the Concord River, just past the bridge, the road was closed for some reason. I banged a u-turn in the parking for the national site. As I turned the car, I suddenly realized where I was, and how beautiful it was there.

I shut off the car and walked across the road towards the bridge, with the wind blowing the grit and sand in my face, and the thin covers of frozen snow from an old storm trying vainly not to give it up. I recall it was about 10 degrees without wind-chill.

My eyes were watering, and my face, even in that short time was getting that odd feeling of being frozen and inflamed at the same time.

It was beautiful. Not another human in sight, a bright and cold morning sun bathing the bitter cold in a yellow tone.

And when I saw the bridge, I had this sudden pang of history, and for a split second I could imagine that famous moment in history. It came and went so fast, in the blink of an eye. It is like when you smell something like apple pie or diesel fumes and are transported to some other place and time for a single heartbeat, but...you feel it and it is real.

I felt the history of that spot. I had to take that picture.

All this on one of the most important professional days of my life. Seeing that scene on that day felt to me like a harbinger of success.

11 posted on 01/04/2013 9:10:17 PM PST by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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To: max americana

“To add, this King George is a foreigner.”

So is king owebama.


12 posted on 01/04/2013 9:10:33 PM PST by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: Wisconsinlady

And then I see what this state has become, and I am angered, saddened and embarrassed all at the same time.


13 posted on 01/04/2013 9:14:12 PM PST by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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To: Wisconsinlady; All

Where I ran across Bob Owens:

http://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/


14 posted on 01/04/2013 9:18:43 PM PST by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: rlmorel

Thank you. I literally got chills while reading your story, and viewing the picture.


15 posted on 01/04/2013 9:36:23 PM PST by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: Wisconsinlady
When the gun raids start, we shall rise up as one nation simultaneously to fight the beast. The raids will be the trigger. Most police and Oathkeepers in the military will join the patriots. The key will be immediate nationwide coordinated response. We will sense and know when it's time. . . Prepare. . Live Free or Die.


16 posted on 01/04/2013 9:41:14 PM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: TEXOKIE

You’re welcome. It was just the way the posted article started off that made me think of that day.

I spent a lot of my life growing up around the ocean (Navy Brat) and I never realized how much I had taken it for granted until I became landlocked. I think people who live in the most amazing times and places sometimes forget to even realize where they are, and how lucky they are.

And that’s the way I felt when I was in Concord that morning...it is like people who live near the ocean, and completely tune it out, not seeing or hearing it.


17 posted on 01/04/2013 9:42:26 PM PST by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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To: rlmorel

Well said. It is good to be mindful of blessings as they are happening to us!


18 posted on 01/04/2013 9:45:09 PM PST by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: rlmorel
Thank you for your story and pic. I was at the bridge in 78' and also felt "this sudden pang of history, and for a split second I could imagine that famous moment in history." I was frozen in time, so much so that the bus driver on the tour said, "Sir, we have to go now." I shall never forget it.


19 posted on 01/04/2013 10:02:33 PM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Art in Idaho

It is an amazing time in history. It all seems so improbable to me. When I consider it, it seems so far fetched to think the colonials carried it off, to rebel and succeed.


20 posted on 01/04/2013 10:05:58 PM PST by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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To: rlmorel

right makes might....


21 posted on 01/04/2013 10:15:13 PM PST by rolling_stone
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To: rlmorel
When I consider it, it seems so far fetched to think the colonials carried it off, to rebel and succeed.

We can do the same. We have the will and the numbers. We now need organization and 'a few good men.'


22 posted on 01/04/2013 10:20:39 PM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Wisconsinlady

save


23 posted on 01/04/2013 10:51:12 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: rlmorel

Post of the year. And by that I mean for at least the last 365 days. Thank you. Perhaps we should all soon be joining some militia, me thinks.


24 posted on 01/04/2013 11:27:56 PM PST by ri4dc (Cut your cable. You'll need the extra dough later on.)
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To: Art in Idaho

I LIKE that image. Love it actually. And I believe you are correct. Organization will be key, and likely become difficult. Before it’s too late, tell me where I sign up. :)


25 posted on 01/04/2013 11:34:10 PM PST by ri4dc (Cut your cable. You'll need the extra dough later on.)
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To: Wisconsinlady

Ping for reference


26 posted on 01/04/2013 11:39:07 PM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Wisconsinlady

I’ve drawn my line in the sand.


27 posted on 01/04/2013 11:44:24 PM PST by SIDENET (I’ve drawn my line in the sand.)
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To: rlmorel

Thank you for your story and the picture. We were in this area some years ago, and felt as you feel....this IS our country’s history...you can feel it and it is a strong feeling and powerful. It should put fire in the bellies of all who view the scene, and remember what transpired here,and how it is now OUR time to step up and do what we must for this country, our Constitution, Liberty and Freedom.


28 posted on 01/05/2013 12:05:24 AM PST by itssme
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To: SIDENET

Corrected tagline.


29 posted on 01/05/2013 12:08:04 AM PST by SIDENET (I've drawn my line in the sand.)
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To: SIDENET

As I


30 posted on 01/05/2013 1:05:57 AM PST by eartick
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To: ri4dc

Thank you. I think what got me was the confluence of time and weather. I believe that morning back in 1775 was a sunny one like this, and it was around the same time in the morning, too.

Well...anyway, hard to imagine things are so different now, in Concord.

Now, the town is finding ways to tax their citizens with a local income tax and outlaw the sale of plastic water bottles. I swear, they are deranged.


31 posted on 01/05/2013 4:49:29 AM PST by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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To: rlmorel

“the first American Revolutionary war was an attempt by General Thomas Gage to disarm the Colonists.

Yes, the American Revolution was triggered by a gun control raid that was met with force by the American people.”.........

We will continue this, right after the following commerical on gun control.......And now back to planning the upcoming Second American Revolution. This will be interesting.


32 posted on 01/05/2013 4:58:58 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: max americana

Do we still have the spines that our forebearers bequeathed us?

Everyone talks a good game about “standing up to the gun-grabbers” when they come up our driveways, but those gun-grabbers will be local police officers, probably with a warrant (legal or not) in hand.

Are you willing to open fire on a local cop? Seriously? I’d have a lot of trouble doing such a thing, as I believe most normal gun-owners would.

Far better to win this fight on paper, instead. Call your local politician (even if you can’t stand them ... hey, I live in Massachusetts) and POLITELY express your opposition to new gun restrictions. Join the NRA, even if you can’t stand them. Gun-grabbing lawmakers will pause when faced with an obvious majority.

Lexington really became historic with the “shot heard ‘round the world” and we still don’t know who fired it. That first shot is the toughest one and carries the burden of history. Think very long and hard about that.


33 posted on 01/05/2013 6:44:16 AM PST by DNME (Without the Constitution, there is no legitimate U.S. government. Period.)
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To: DNME; Travis McGee
Everyone talks a good game about “standing up to the gun-grabbers” when they come up our driveways, but those gun-grabbers will be local police officers, probably with a warrant (legal or not) in hand. Are you willing to open fire on a local cop? Seriously? I’d have a lot of trouble doing such a thing, as I believe most normal gun-owners would.

The original article & your comment are both horsesh!t. Why must we fantasize about past battles, and at the same time resign ourselves to tyranny?

The obvious reason no one assembles, nor even discusses it, is because of both 100% saturation of the surveillance state, combined with the state's 100% ability to deliver both overwhelming air & ground power at a moments notice.

How many times must Matt post essays on how the CWII is really going to go down? There aren't going to be any groups greater than 1 or 2 people "fighting for liberty". The AR2 is going to be tit-for-tat, with ever greater escalation into retaliation on extended family members of both sides.

Yes, (registered) guns will be given up when the local constabulary comes with the warrants. But then all these people will be radicalized, and may act when given the opportunity at some future time. No coordination, no planning, simply a quick strike with a high degree of success.

The state will fight back with even more terrifying measures, and so it will go. This isn't going to be over in 1, 5 or even 10 years. It took the Soviet union 75+ years to collapse.

Some day a new republic will emerge, but it won't be something most of us will see.

34 posted on 01/05/2013 7:25:28 AM PST by semantic
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To: semantic; Travis McGee; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; NFHale
Yes, (registered) guns will be given up when the local constabulary comes with the warrants. But then all these people will be radicalized, and may act when given the opportunity at some future time. No coordination, no planning, simply a quick strike with a high degree of success.

The state will fight back with even more terrifying measures, and so it will go. This isn't going to be over in 1, 5 or even 10 years. It took the Soviet union 75+ years to collapse.

Some day a new republic will emerge, but it won't be something most of us will see.

its a bitter pill, but one we must swallow...the sooner the better to prepare mind and body for the storm...

35 posted on 01/05/2013 8:54:51 AM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Gilbo_3; semantic; Travis McGee; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; rlmorel

“...the American Revolution was triggered by a gun control raid that was met with force by the American people....”

Bloomberg, Menino, Ramsey, et al...

Let that statement sink in. Think REAL hard on it with your addled, shrunken liberal brains.

There’s a REASON gun shops and gun shows are swamped with people, and AR15s and the like are selling off the shelves.

Dr Susan Gratia Hupp said it best to that POS Schumer when she testifed back in the 90s.

It still means the same thing.


36 posted on 01/05/2013 10:19:10 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale
Let that statement sink in. Think REAL hard on it with your addled, shrunken liberal brains.

problem is, they *know* this and are willing to sacrifice other people, both us and their minions, for their utopian dream...

its all running according to *plan* and as such, there is a 'jumping off point' where they MUST put the peddle to the metal and light the candle...

simply when, NOT if...

37 posted on 01/05/2013 10:45:07 AM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: DNME; Travis McGee; semantic; Gilbo_3

“...and POLITELY express your opposition to new gun restrictions....”

I DON’T HAVE TO BE POLITE to people who come to my house with a “Comply or Die” mentality and that will murder me and my family in a heartbeat for refusing while hiding behind their badges and “just following orders”; my ancestors SHOT DEAD people who were “just following orders”, and then watched others who were “just following orders” swing from ropes at Nuremberg.

I DON’T HAVE TO BE POLITE to people who want me disarmed, neutered, and dead.

I DON’T HAVE TO BE POLITE to people who want to strip me of my most basic Constitutional, civil, and HUMAN RIGHT and leave you at the mercy of thugs with baggy pants or thugs with badges.

I DON’T HAVE TO BE POLITE with people who by their actions openly threaten me and my family, expose my family to potential murder and assault, and expect me to roll over and do NOTHING about it.

That clear enough? You REALLY think those pieces of garbage in DC care about your polite paper opposition?

If they did, this wouldn’t even be an issue.

They’re prepared and determined to use COERCIVE LETHAL FORCE against you, your children, your home, and your f***ing GOLDFISH to accomplish their agenda.

Last time I checked, polite discourse was NOT how you win a war. See “Second World War, Victory over German Socialism and Japanese Imperialism”.

We’re not dealing with politics as usual here. We’re dealing with a coup that has taken place at multiple levels, and people in authority capacities at local, county, state, and fed levels that have ZERO regard for your rights, for your property, and for your life and your family’s lives.

All of that negates “polite”. Reality is what it is. As far as firing on a local police officer, everyone makes that decision for themselves. No one can tell what you should or shouldn’t do.

I’ll bet an awful lot of German Jews wished they’d fired on the “local cop” when he showed up at their front door with a Gestapo, SS, or SD agent at his side, Verstehst du, yah? “Gibt es keine Juden hier versteckt? Kommen Sie mit uns, JETZT.”

If gun owners are to be the new “Juden ratten”, it’d be best for local cops to stay home with Blue Flu when that order is given. Better yet, it would best for them to actively OPPOSE that order and side with the local Citizenry who have done NOTHING WRONG other than exercise their right to keep and bear arms. They’ll be welcomed as brothers in arms and in spirit in that case.

But as i said...reality is what it is. People will make decisions, and either good or really, really bad will come from those decisions.


38 posted on 01/05/2013 10:46:10 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Wisconsinlady

Waiting for raids, in opposition to overwhelming force, is a mistake in my opinion.

If it comes to war, confronting the enemy at his points of strength will be an error (theoretically speaking).

I am, in the words of a great man, too old to go bush whacking - but the enemy has many weak points and can’t come close to covering them all.

Facing a squad of riflemen at your home, with your babies asleep inside, is the worst case scenario. Hopefully, patriots are considering more fruitful engagements.


39 posted on 01/05/2013 11:14:17 AM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown are by desperate appliance relieved, or not at all)
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To: NFHale

Jeez, throttle back, Hale! I’m on your side!

I thought I made it clear I was suggesting one be polite when calling your local politician. Swearing, screaming or launching into a rant (like the one you just dumped on me) and you’ll hear a loud click on your phone. We have a message that needs to get out and you can’t deliver it when the other side hangs up.

I’m hoping that majority opposition will convince the crooks who “represent” us that it would be unwise to do anything truly over-the-top drastic, like forced gun buy-backs or outright confiscation. Any gains they make now, even small ones like limiting the capacity of magazines, will be twice as hard to remove once those laws are on the books.

But I agree that this war has already started. We’re just angling for better field position before things turn desperate, is all.


40 posted on 01/05/2013 12:44:08 PM PST by DNME (Without the Constitution, there is no legitimate U.S. government. Period.)
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To: DNME

“...Jeez, throttle back, Hale! I’m on your side!...”

I get that, brother.

That WAS throttled back.

One team, one fight.


41 posted on 01/05/2013 1:05:38 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: rlmorel

thank you for sharing that awesome picture and your story. It reminds me of why I still need to fight for this precious country of ours.


42 posted on 01/05/2013 1:15:48 PM PST by Wisconsinlady (The only thing to stop a bad person with a gun, is a good person with a gun.)
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To: Art in Idaho

I keep trying to figure out just who Obamuzzie will tap to confiscate the first firearm? The US Marshalls remember well how they got their asses kicked just trying to round up Randy Weaver. Local police know better. There ain’t enough state police in any state to round up much of anything. Activating guard units would get a big snicker-—those guys have as many private guns as the rest of us. Homeland security is busy frisking kids and the entire US military is outnumbered by Chicago. So who the bleep would do all the “rounding”? a band of Kenyans?


43 posted on 01/05/2013 1:54:17 PM PST by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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