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To start things out I recieved a e-mail recently from a fellow prepper who follows my threads with some real world expereince. This is a edited copy:

Finances required me to dip into my survival (prepper) food. I had to subsist for 2 weeks on freeze-dried number 10 cans. I want to share my experience:

DO NOT RELY SOLELY ON FREEZE-DRIED FOOD.

You will continuously feel unsatisfied. It is really strange: Your belly will actually be full, but you will remain ravenous for food. There is something missing in freeze-dried food over the long haul. I found that taking supplemental vitamins helped somewhat, but the addition of a little ‘real food’ made the difference. Throwing a cooked potato, sut up, into a dish, or adding a can of beans, coupled with the taking of a vitamin, seemed to satisfy.

The first few days, before I figured this out, I would eat and eat and eat, and still remain starving. I got all the effects of not-eating (A growling stomach, diarreah, and constant hunger) even though I ate.

I constituted the meals according to the directions, so I was not remiss.

Freeze-dried food feels almost like imaginary food. I had no such experience living on MRE’s before (although you tend not to ‘eliminate’ on those MRE’s). DO NOT RELY SOLELY ON FREEZE-DRIED FOODS.

PLAN TO SUPPLEMENT!

Potatoes and Mac and Cheese would be two sides that can go far in fill the void. Also BREAD! Many restaurants specialize in excellent breads and rolls to fill dinners up before the entree and it WORKS!!

1 posted on 01/04/2013 8:22:15 PM PST by Kartographer
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!!


2 posted on 01/04/2013 8:23:37 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

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3 posted on 01/04/2013 8:28:31 PM PST by Wisconsinlady (The only thing to stop a bad person with a gun, is a good person with a gun.)
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To: Kartographer

http://foodstoragemadeeasy.net/


4 posted on 01/04/2013 8:29:23 PM PST by Wisconsinlady (The only thing to stop a bad person with a gun, is a good person with a gun.)
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To: Kartographer

I will get a vertical hydroponic system put together in April and see if I can grow veggies. I have a small garden area and it’s not big enough for regular veggie growing. There is also a large deck out there and that takes a large amount of the space. Going vertical will be easier for me since bending over again and again to the ground is bad news for my lower back.

I’m starting off with 10 vertical pots and if that is successful, I’ll add another 10.


9 posted on 01/04/2013 8:54:24 PM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: Kartographer

Regarding the freeze dried food, I wonder if the problem is not using enough water to rehydrate and cook it. When he eats it, if it isn’t fully rehydrated, it will pull water from his digestive tract, making him feel thirsty or empty?


12 posted on 01/04/2013 10:05:34 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Kartographer
Beans, potatoes, onion and cornbread very tasty, satisfying, and mostly made from stuff that I can grow or stock for long term storage.

Stuff I eat on a regular basis. An occasional dehydrated product here and there to break monotony is ok, but I want to eat real food not that dehydrated or freeze dried stuff.

I just finished putting up 7 quarts of chickens in the pressure cooker. That's about 14 lbs of chicken we got on sale. It will make lots of chicken and noodle soup, chicken and dumplings, chicken pot pie, chicken and rice casseroles to name a few.

And yes I know how to make noodles and pie crust and dumplings all made out of some of those staples that have very long storage life. Granny called this cooking from scratch, and she taught all of us how to do it. I try to rotate the canned foods out every year, but from what I have read, the meat could actually be quite tasty even after 2 or 3 years.

Tomorrow we are canning pork roast, another special at the market this week. I got in some of my food storage supplies, but I am still waiting on Mylar bags to be delivered so I can get some of the cheap rice I got on sale socked away.

I have started reviewing my new cookbook: Homade Pantry - 101 foods you can stop buying and start making. They have a recipe for wheat thins, and I have some wheat I grew that is just begging for me to try out my wheat grinder.LOL>

13 posted on 01/04/2013 10:06:22 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Kartographer
You will continuously feel unsatisfied. It is really strange: Your belly will actually be full, but you will remain ravenous for food.

I know that feeling, I get it if I try to go without dairy. I'm guessing everybody has their own food or nutrient that they'll feel famished without, best to find out what that is beforehand!
15 posted on 01/04/2013 11:49:38 PM PST by Ellendra (http://www.ustrendy.com/ellendra-nauriel/portfolio/18423/concealed-couture/)
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Don’t know how many people have Shoprite stores in their area; but they’re having a great sale on canned goods. Corn and green beans are 33 cents a can. Beans (black, red, white, pinto), carrots, beets and potatoes are 47 cents a can. Large cans of tomatoes (sauce, peeled, crushed, puree) are 12 for $6.48.


16 posted on 01/05/2013 12:06:54 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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Something I haven’t seen mentioned here is how combining different foods that contain complimentary amino acids can boost the amount of digestible/usable protein in the food. The classic book for this approach is the book, Diet For A Small Planet. (I used it in college as I couldn’t afford to eat meat - my grocery allowance was $30 per month!)

Beans, rice, and cheese; beans, rice, and corn; both of these combinations can be the start of a great meal to which one can add vegatables, such as tomatoes and onions, and some fish, cannded chicken, beef, or ham; or add game.

I had a neighbor who was an emigre from China, and he mostly ate rice and vegatables. He was very healthy and would occasionally supplement his meals with fresh caught fish.

I’m allergic to wheat and rarely, if ever, eat bread or pasta. But I can tolerate rye, and now have a recipe to make snackerbrod, a flat, hard unleavened Scandinavian bread made of ground rye.

I’ve found a company in Utah that will ship bags of whole grain rye: Honeyville.com.


20 posted on 01/05/2013 2:32:54 AM PST by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: Kartographer
I caught a link to FerFal, some blogger who lived through the collapse of Argentina's economy in 2001.

He mentioned batteries cr123a.

Does anyone use these ? They are pretty expensive, and the flashlights that need these are expensive too. Not rechargeable either...

22 posted on 01/05/2013 3:05:09 AM PST by onona (Happy New Year !)
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To: Kartographer

Freeze dried isn’t cheap either...


27 posted on 01/05/2013 6:18:04 AM PST by BobL
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To: Kartographer

CARDBOARD CAN ORGANIZERS at CanOrganizer.com

Available in various sizes to accomodate different sizes and quantities of cans.
Cost about $3 to $4 each in packs of four depending on size (plus shipping of course)
They come as a precut sheet of cardboard - you just fold into shape.

Click for Can Organizer.com How To Assemble Video


29 posted on 01/05/2013 6:57:13 AM PST by Iron Munro (I Miss America !!!!)
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To: Kartographer

A question please, we have a air compressor. Do they make nozzles so you can use them for blowers to clean off items like furnace filters?? Looking for a way to save $ they are getting pretty pricey. Thanks.


31 posted on 01/05/2013 7:33:44 AM PST by MomwithHope (Buy and read Ameritopia by Mark Levin!)
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Okay, here’s some projects we’ve got going on at the Bunker:

We have two twin bread makers now. One was the one I got The Bride for early Christmas; the other fell out of the Christmas tree box when the tree was going up (The Bride found it on an AFB in Turkey).

Upshot is, we’re starting to stock up on the bread-making supplies, and The Bride is cranking out fresh loaves. The loaves keep collapsing, though; one friend suggesting adding an egg to the recipe.

We’re also going to test out a vertical tomato basket this spring. Getting more depends on the success of the first.

The chicks are getting HUGE. They’ve outgrown one box, and we rigged a brooder out of a Rubbermaid box and chicken wire, with a heat lamp. To keep the cats away, the birds are in our bedroom; makes for toasty sleeping, as the bedroom is 10-15 degrees warmer than the rest of the house.


33 posted on 01/05/2013 8:48:46 AM PST by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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To: Kartographer

Make a fully functional cold storage pit/mound and enjoy your garden’s production all winter

http://www.backwoodshome.com/articles/deblois47.html


80 posted on 01/06/2013 4:47:33 PM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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