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To: Quickgun
This place will probably be better post-collapse than most other places.

You don't want to be stuck in or adjacent to a big city anywhere in the world, but I think larger cities in this country could be even worse than in the third world, because those people retain some familiarity with scarcity and living in primitive conditions. Here there will be total chaos and breakdown with only a couple days of food non-delivery.

20 posted on 01/04/2013 9:09:47 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not NurtureĀ™)
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To: steve86
You don't want to be stuck in or adjacent to a big city anywhere in the world, but I think larger cities in this country could be even worse than in the third world, because those people retain some familiarity with scarcity and living in primitive conditions.

Spot on.
Most American cities ARE the third world.

Just read what happened when the currencies of Austria and Germany collapsed during the Weimar Republic's hyperinflation.


A good roadmap for where we are headed is something like what happened to Weimar Germany. The background was a bit different, but the path ahead is the same, albeit on a global scale this time.

Anyone who doubts it needs to read the brilliant book, "When Money Dies" by Adam Fergusson.

You can click on the book below to get it from Amazon:

You are in luck... it appears that you can still read it or download it for free online here and only here:

When Money Dies: The Nightmare of the Weimar Collapse

This book was out of print for a while, but now is being reissued. If you are interested, I suggest you grab the free e-book above while it lasts, as it will likely soon disappear since the book has gone back into print.

:)

Of course you can always buy a bookshelf copy from Amazon as it's cheap enough.

80 posted on 01/05/2013 1:29:07 AM PST by Bon mots (Abu Ghraib: 47 Times on the front page of the NY Times | Benghazi: 2 Times)
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To: steve86

That’s true, hadn’t thought about that. I live on a farm about 100 miles from Houston Texas, the closest big city. Not as far away as I’d like, but I think I can make it here,unless we are completely overrun.


91 posted on 01/05/2013 5:10:48 AM PST by Quickgun (I came here screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: steve86

I’d agree with that, in fact I think modern big cities would be an extremely dangerous place to be if things did come apart at the seams in a big way. Modern cities absolutely need electricity in order to function, and without it things would quickly descend into chaos. Their pumping stations use electricity and so if the electricity went off, the water supply would fail shortly afterward. Without water, there’d be no way of fighting fires and with all the looting and violence going on you’d soon have out of control fires all over the place. The whole city might well burn down in a firestorm (as happened to a few cities in Europe and Japan during WW2), and if that were to happen, anyone still inside would burn with it.

We had a small foretaste of what it could be like with the riots here in the UK in 2011, and I can tell you it was quite scary. I live in a street off a main road, and I could hear gangs rampaging down the main road smashing windows and looting the shops (fortunately they bypassed my street). A couple of days later I talked to one of the checkout operators at the local supermarket, and they were attacked by a gang of around 50 black youths who emptied all the tills and robbed all the customers at knifepoint. This is quite a large supermarket, and I don’t know how many customers were robbed (the story wasn’t covered in the news at all), but it must have been quite a few - dozens or more.

There wasn’t any warning that any of this was going to happen either, it was just a normal day and then suddenly there were gangs of mainly blacks all over the place looting the shops and beating up and robbing people with the police nowhere to be seen.

All I can say is, you people are very lucky you have guns and can defend yourselves in that sort of situation!


114 posted on 01/05/2013 2:04:24 PM PST by HughE
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