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Girl, 19, accidentally shoots brother dead while posing with gun
Your Jewish News ^ | January 04, 2013 | John Roberts

Posted on 01/06/2013 1:51:16 AM PST by expat1000

A nineteen year old girl was arrested after accidentally killing her brother while posing with a loaded gun at around 5:30 am.

The victim was identified as 22-year-old Manuel Ortiz. [snip] If the teen is found to have had alcohol in her system at the time of the shooting, she will be charged with manslaughter.

(Excerpt) Read more at yourjewishnews.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: arizona; as; banglist

1 posted on 01/06/2013 1:51:23 AM PST by expat1000
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To: expat1000
This was in Arizona. Why not put that in the headline in parentheses () so people will know?
2 posted on 01/06/2013 2:10:57 AM PST by Lockbar (Quality Factory Loaded Ammunition-----The New Gold)
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To: Lockbar

Why, to spare the other 49 States of embarrassment?


3 posted on 01/06/2013 2:17:12 AM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: expat1000

Excuse the pun, but this will give gun grabbers more ammunition.


4 posted on 01/06/2013 2:22:02 AM PST by wastedyears (My life mostly completely turned around in a few weeks. Now to leave NY...)
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To: Lockbar; expat1000

I find that notifying the FR mods by hitting abuse usually works better then posting a reply to the poster.


5 posted on 01/06/2013 2:22:21 AM PST by Las Vegas Dave
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To: expat1000

Your Jewish News? These people aren’t Jews.


6 posted on 01/06/2013 2:27:21 AM PST by Misterioso ( "Those who grant sympathy to guilt, grant none to innocence." - Ayn Rand)
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To: Lockbar
This was in Arizona. Why not put that in the headline in parentheses () so people will know?

I thought for sure it was Miami!

7 posted on 01/06/2013 2:34:56 AM PST by Does so (Dims don't think ... they PLOT!)
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To: expat1000

It has nothing to do with ‘gun violence.’ At least three cardinal rules were violated by a woman who is responsible for killing her brother, not the gun. She obviously knew nothing about the proper handling of a gun, since she was playing around with a rattlesnake - a loaded weapon. She was likely drunk or otherwise intoxicated while handling the weapon. She obviously pointed the gun at someone she did not intend to shoot.


8 posted on 01/06/2013 2:55:42 AM PST by iontheball
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To: expat1000

LOADED? THAT IS JUST STUPID.


9 posted on 01/06/2013 3:03:40 AM PST by television is just wrong
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To: expat1000

LOADED? THAT IS JUST STUPID.


10 posted on 01/06/2013 3:03:52 AM PST by television is just wrong
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To: iontheball

My wife is from Taiwan. She learned proper gun safety and shooting in high school PE classes.


11 posted on 01/06/2013 3:39:29 AM PST by Tai_Chung
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To: expat1000

What makes them think she had alcohol in her system at 5:am while playing with guns...


12 posted on 01/06/2013 3:51:25 AM PST by MaxMax (Gun free zones was the invitation to gun bans)
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To: expat1000; All
Here in one photo is the real story that was surpressed in the cause of propanganda:


The real Manuel Ortiz & sister Savannah Ramirez

But if the public knew this, how would leftwing media use the actions of such mutants to justify suppressing the 2nd Amendment right of law-abiding Americans - for whom guns are the only defense against such mutant offspring of a depraved leftwing culture?

13 posted on 01/06/2013 4:00:11 AM PST by drpix
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To: expat1000

I’ll bet the gun was held sideways and she was making weird finger signs with the other hand.


14 posted on 01/06/2013 4:00:30 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: drpix

Looks like she may have done us a favor.


15 posted on 01/06/2013 4:16:16 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: iontheball

She obviously pointed the gun at someone she did not intend to shoot.
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
Of course, both were working on their GEDs and she can’t go to jail because her 5 children need her. Or she has an appointment to get another tattoo. Whichever is most important, or she doesn’t want her next one born in jail, of course she could give birth while getting her next tattoo in jail.

He 22, she 19, possibly just recently met or found out they were brother/sister....maybe she figured he knew.

Of course Mom and Dad can’t be deported because they would be leaving these 2 fine youngsters behind and they may get in trouble if not under Mom’s supervision.


16 posted on 01/06/2013 4:17:05 AM PST by xrmusn (6/98 "It is virtually impossible to clean the pond as long as the pigs are still crapping in it")
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To: drpix

Thanks for posting the image of these two idiots.

Looks to me like one gang-banger offed another gang-banger before his time.

Boo-freaking-Hoo


17 posted on 01/06/2013 4:18:08 AM PST by panaxanax
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To: iontheball

She obviously pointed the gun at someone she did not intend to shoot.
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
Of course, both were working on their GEDs and she can’t go to jail because her 5 children need her. Or she has an appointment to get another tattoo. Whichever is most important, or she doesn’t want her next one born in jail, of course she could give birth while getting her next tattoo in jail.

He 22, she 19, possibly just recently met or found out they were brother/sister....maybe she figured he knew.

Of course Mom and Dad can’t be deported because they would be leaving these 2 fine youngsters behind and they may get in trouble if not under Mom’s supervision.


18 posted on 01/06/2013 4:18:50 AM PST by xrmusn (6/98 "It is virtually impossible to clean the pond as long as the pigs are still crapping in it")
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To: expat1000

Posing with a loaded gun at 5:30 AM....and the authorities think alcohol might have been involved. Duh.

Mexicans, alcohol & guns/cars are a deadly mix. Wonder why there is never a body count.


19 posted on 01/06/2013 4:50:25 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: Misterioso

I was going to say, how many people named “Ortiz” live in Israel or are Jewish?


20 posted on 01/06/2013 4:54:53 AM PST by Blue Highway
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To: iontheball

One thing no one can do is fix stupid. The “government” now is about trying to legislate fixing stupid by making it more difficult for people to demonstrate how incompetent they really are.


21 posted on 01/06/2013 5:01:55 AM PST by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: Blue Highway; Misterioso

>>I was going to say, how many people named “Ortiz” live in Israel or are Jewish?

How many stories in the Christian Scientist Monitor are specific to Christian Scientists?


22 posted on 01/06/2013 5:03:24 AM PST by expat1000
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To: drpix

Gangbangers.

More bleach for the gene pool.


23 posted on 01/06/2013 5:16:15 AM PST by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

looks like you called that one. typical gang thuggery


24 posted on 01/06/2013 5:16:40 AM PST by Blue Highway
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To: expat1000; All

They were obviously gang bangers or taggers...wonder if they were Illegal Aliens, too?


25 posted on 01/06/2013 5:22:44 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (Fiscal Conservatives are Neither)
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To: iontheball

Who knows if it was really an accident. Maybe she was a good shot and was just pissed off? Who knows.


26 posted on 01/06/2013 5:25:44 AM PST by kjam22 (my newest music video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7gNI9bWO3s)
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To: All

that frees up two prison cells..


27 posted on 01/06/2013 5:29:22 AM PST by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: expat1000

Funny how the young adult woman is referred to as a “teen” when it’s convenient for the newspaper.


28 posted on 01/06/2013 5:54:08 AM PST by meyer (Proud member of the 53%.)
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To: expat1000

Her day is just ruined! Ruined I tell you.


29 posted on 01/06/2013 5:54:14 AM PST by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: drpix

Good riddance to him...


30 posted on 01/06/2013 6:05:56 AM PST by Constitutional Patriot (Socialism is the cancer of humanity.)
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To: drpix

Thug culture, a loaded gun, all night drinking, posing for Facebook, and very poor trigger discipline.

Of course it’s the gun’s fault...


31 posted on 01/06/2013 6:16:17 AM PST by Tigerized ("..and whack 'em, and whack 'em, and whack 'em!' cried the Toad in ecstasy." (continuing in 2013))
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To: expat1000

Anyone else think it’s odd just how many deaths have been occurring due to firearms since Sandyhook? Either it’s the media hyping up stories they normally would not have or maybe it’s a set up. I know I sound like I’m nuts, but there has been too many to be a coincidence.


32 posted on 01/06/2013 6:34:14 AM PST by Patriot95
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To: expat1000

Anyone else think it’s odd just how many deaths have been occurring due to idiots with firearms since Sandyhook? Either it’s the media hyping up stories they normally would not have or maybe it’s a set up. I know I sound like I’m nuts, but there has been too many to be a coincidence.


33 posted on 01/06/2013 6:34:31 AM PST by Patriot95
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To: Patriot95

Keep in mind, it is just the deaths caused by murder or stupidity.
Deaths or woundings caused by armed citizens defending themselves are not being mentioned in the national news at all!

In any case, the sad part is, that the sister isn’t dead too. As far as I can tell, this is a case of “red on red” with no net loss to society.


34 posted on 01/06/2013 6:41:05 AM PST by Little Ray (Waiting for the return of the Gods of the Copybook Headings.)
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To: Patriot95
Anyone else think it’s odd just how many deaths have been occurring due to idiots with firearms since Sandyhook? Either it’s the media hyping up stories they normally would not have or maybe it’s a set up. I know I sound like I’m nuts, but there has been too many to be a coincidence.

In all fairness I'm not aware of this story getting any national play. The video link on the site is to a local ABC affiliate in Arizona. Also, I don't think the media would be stupid enough to try and make these two poster people for any anti-gun propaganda.

35 posted on 01/06/2013 7:02:26 AM PST by expat1000
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To: expat1000

Attention: Trash pickup on aisle 6!


36 posted on 01/06/2013 7:13:57 AM PST by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: expat1000

They don’t accidently kill anybody anymore they shoot em dead. It’s not PC.


37 posted on 01/06/2013 7:14:40 AM PST by mosesdapoet ("A voice crying in the wilderness make streight for the way of the Lord")
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To: FreedomPoster

FP, you are the man. Excellent insight.!


38 posted on 01/06/2013 7:15:42 AM PST by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: expat1000

“The girl admitted that she posed with the gun so she can post the photo to Facebook”

Another Facebook KILLING. When are they going to shut that site down and confiscate its software?


39 posted on 01/06/2013 7:33:12 AM PST by BobL
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To: expat1000

In other news, a teenager without a driver’s license hopped into a car, took off, and hit and killed a pedestrian. Better make this front and center news so we know how dangerous cars are. Maybe we should ban them.


40 posted on 01/06/2013 7:36:43 AM PST by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
"I’ll bet the gun was held sideways and she was making weird finger signs with the other hand."

They hold them sideways because that's how they come in the box.

41 posted on 01/06/2013 7:49:59 AM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: FreedomPoster

“Looks like she may have done us a favor”

They should have tried a duet.


42 posted on 01/06/2013 8:20:19 AM PST by RS_Rider (I hate Illinois Nazis)
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To: expat1000

Rarely an accident.


43 posted on 01/06/2013 8:22:28 AM PST by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: AppyPappy

That’s what you get for hittin’ on your seester...


44 posted on 01/06/2013 9:22:36 AM PST by null and void (The world is full of Maple Streets.)
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To: null and void

You wont see the joe bidens conficating gangbanger guns in the inner cities will you? I think not.


45 posted on 01/06/2013 2:04:59 PM PST by ronnie raygun (Being Breitbart, Lexington / Concord, America's first gun grab attempt)
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