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Americans don't trust Homeland Security or its mission
Coach is Right ^ | 1/6/13 | George Spelvin

Posted on 01/06/2013 10:10:14 AM PST by Oldpuppymax

Even though the 2013 Rand McNally road atlas does not identify any town named Glynco, Ga, this sprawling 1,600 acre campus with its own zip code-31524- is the locus for extensive Department of Homeland Security (DHS) expansion. “Plans are currently under way to build and expand facilities at Glynco to conduct a wide array of programs to support the Homeland Security mission.”(1)

Located in the midst of numerous senior citizen and retirement communities, the center is in Golden Isles, “…a series of barrier islands noted for their recreation and retirement living atmospheres” according to the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center description of the area. (1)

This Training Center is listed on page 1 of a recent, enormous, $1.6 billion DHS ammo buy which included...

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; History; Politics
KEYWORDS: barackobama; dhs; glyncoga; guncontrol

1 posted on 01/06/2013 10:10:19 AM PST by Oldpuppymax
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To: Oldpuppymax

When this Homeland Security Department came along I thought it was a good thing. Man, what I an idiot I was. The government sucked me in big time. I thought that the agency was going to be involved with the security of the nation. I guess it was the name that faked me out.


2 posted on 01/06/2013 10:15:31 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Where can I pick up a 2013 Mayan calendar?)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Nor should they. America died with passage of the Patriot Act.


3 posted on 01/06/2013 10:18:40 AM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: Oldpuppymax

Great location. Now we can spend extra to hurricane proof it.


4 posted on 01/06/2013 10:19:41 AM PST by rocksblues (Being a Liberal means never having to mean it when you apologize.)
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To: RIghtwardHo

How can DHS be other than the fist of the tyrant when Islamists have been appointed to top positions?


5 posted on 01/06/2013 10:24:03 AM PST by OldArmy52 (The question is not whether Obama ever lies, but whether he ever tells the truth.)
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To: rocksblues

I’ve spent quite a bit of time at GLYNCO.....usually had fun at night when I wasn’t in some class.....LOL


6 posted on 01/06/2013 10:25:40 AM PST by BamaDi ("The definition of a racist today is anyone who is winning an argument with a liberal.")
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To: Oldpuppymax

It is a high level girl party, right?


7 posted on 01/06/2013 10:27:41 AM PST by bmwcyle (We have gone over the cliff and we are about to hit the bottom)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

The Department of Homeland Security, with it’s creepy nazi sounding name. Has twice the budget of, and the same number of people as the US Marine Corps. And it’s aimed squarely at us.


8 posted on 01/06/2013 10:43:05 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: rocksblues
The Glynco training center has been there well before creation of DHS. The location was an old Naval Air Station.

One has to remember that many of the entities within DHS are legacy agencies that were taken from other departments and placed in DHS. Coast Guard, Border Patrol, U.S. Customs, INS, and the Secret Service were all taken out of their respective departments and placed under the new bureaucracy and then they tossed in the newly created TSA.

9 posted on 01/06/2013 10:46:43 AM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Oldpuppymax
When DHS was first created, it was sold as a department to make sure FBI, CIA, local law enforcement and others would share information about potential threats.
Never was it suggested it would grow to an umbrella super organization of its own, with more power than all the others put together.
A massive bait-and-switch was played on us all, paid for with our own money and loss of freedom.

10 posted on 01/06/2013 10:50:06 AM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: Oldpuppymax

And DHS as protection from islamic attacks is a laugh. The Borders are wide open. Islamists are permeating our government. Bush loved them. Hillary has an MB connected chick at her side 24/7. Grover Norquist loves them. We see soldir forbidden from criticizing the Taliban enemy or their favorite hobby, pedophilia. We see the FBI scrubbing all terror training materials of any references to islam.
The borders are wide open.
We supply weaspons to the Mexican cartels, the Libyan branch of Al Qeida, the Syrian Al Qeida, etc.
We are flooding the nation with every variety of moslem we can. Pakistani, Somali, Iraqi, Afghan, Egyptian, Yemeni, etc.

It’s a fair conclusion that the last thing the US government wants is to stop islamic attacks.

This raises the question. What is DHS actually for?


11 posted on 01/06/2013 10:54:40 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
When this Homeland Security Department came along I thought it was a good thing.

We should have known. The government providing something they tell is for our OWN GOOD, has a history of being the opposite.

I guess it was the name that faked me out.

They should have been honest and called it THE FINGER.

12 posted on 01/06/2013 10:56:03 AM PST by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

There is a Homeland Security base somewhere near the northern boundary of the Willapa Hills in southwest Washington State.

Black helicopters fly right over my house when traveling between Portland, Oregon, and that base.

One night a group of them flew over and had searchlights on, raking the ground. It was 10:30 at night and over a residential neighborhood - crass and totally unnecessary behavior.


13 posted on 01/06/2013 10:56:12 AM PST by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: SatinDoll
It was 10:30 at night and over a residential neighborhood - crass and totally unnecessary behavior.


14 posted on 01/06/2013 11:01:07 AM PST by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

For now, these purchases only compete for supply.

There’s no staff available to use this quantity of ammo.

They could double the military and police in this country and remain “uncompetative” with free Americans.

Keep in mind that less than half the military are proficient with firearms.

Is there some thought that by making jobs so hard to find that at some point folks will see signing up for a DHS brown-shirt squad, to oppress fellow Americans, as a viable career?


15 posted on 01/06/2013 11:01:40 AM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I’ve also just recently woken up. I supported President Bush, the Patriot Act, DHS, etc... I thought they were supposed to help keep me safe and free. Little did I know the true mission was to strip me of my freedom and make me live in an Orwellian surveillance state. The Democrats and Republicans have been bought and paid for, and their masters demanded that the Constitution be shredded. Its done. Now we have to live with the monster we unleashed.


16 posted on 01/06/2013 11:04:44 AM PST by Astronaut
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To: BitWielder1

If it will be a bad thing under Democrat control then it’s not a good thing because it was implemented under Republican control.

This is a lesson that Republicans have refused to learn. Blame Democrats for being what they are and you won’t be wrong, but Republicans handed them the keys.

DHS was proposed, funded, established and expanded under George W. Bush and the vast majority here on FR cheered. Only the few remaining paleoconservatives and libertarians were alarmed and spoke out. They were shouted down.

And so, here we are. Feel safe yet?


17 posted on 01/06/2013 11:05:57 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Astronaut

That’s exactly the way I feel.


18 posted on 01/06/2013 11:06:55 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Where can I pick up a 2013 Mayan calendar?)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
I thought that the agency was going to be involved with the security of the nation.

It is. Against you.

19 posted on 01/06/2013 11:10:16 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
I thought that the agency was going to be involved with the security of the nation.

It is. Against you.

20 posted on 01/06/2013 11:10:16 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: Oldpuppymax

It took the D of C over 200 years to create an agency to defend the borders? That was their original job.

Homeland gave me the creeps from day one. They never protected any borders.

Instead they geared up to protect the bureaucrats from we the people or they geared up to make war on we the people.

Just like the TSA and every other agency since 2000


21 posted on 01/06/2013 11:24:07 AM PST by winodog (Thank you Jesus for the calm in my life)
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To: Oldpuppymax
Glynco, Ga; Training center for the American SS and Gestapo. Wilson would be proud.
22 posted on 01/06/2013 1:11:00 PM PST by Tupelo (Hunkered down & loading up)
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To: Oldpuppymax

It is past time for there to be a specific citizens lobbying group with a simple mission: That there are several federal government agencies that have no legitimate need to exist, so should be abolished.

The argument this lobbying organization makes does not need to be fiery or aggressive in any way, just the clear statement that these agencies serve no needed purpose, and are extremely expensive, so government should no longer pretend they have purpose, and despite the inertia of their great bulk, should end funding for them. Buh-bye.

No anger, or threats, or rage. The US was a better place without them, and there is no reason to keep them going, as their missions are either redundant with other agencies, or are intrusive and oppressive without tangible purpose or objective; so they should be dismissed, and the money not spent on other things that are equally unneeded.

These agencies are as superfluous as the industries subsidized by the administration who never achieved what they were supposed to do.

The TSA is as meaningless as A123 Systems or Solyndra. We are no longer subsidizing those, just writing off the investment. The same calm objectivity should apply to the TSA.

Those who supported it were not bad people, they just misjudged America’s security needs and created a bureaucracy that serves to good purpose. So it should be packed in boxes, recycled if possible to more useful purpose, but it is too expensive to keep pumping money into.

Likewise, those who wish them abolished are also not bad people, and do not deserve scrutiny, threats or punishment for demanding efficiency and at least a modicum of careful spending by the federal government.

Admit the mistakes, and stop funding them. It’s not so hard.


23 posted on 01/06/2013 1:13:22 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: USNBandit
One has to remember that many of the entities within DHS are legacy agencies that were taken from other departments and placed in DHS. Coast Guard, Border Patrol, U.S. Customs, INS, and the Secret Service were all taken out of their respective departments and placed under the new bureaucracy and then they tossed in the newly created TSA.

Yup, and those pretty parochial interests don't really play well with each other, if the recent Federal employee survey is right. DHS ranks pretty much last or second to last across the board in terms of morale.

I also think that there's a lot of passive aggressiveness going on within the agency as well relative to the "expansive" approach taken (especially by the current administration). The public face of this is the lawsuit filed by those ICE agents against the President (actually Secretary Napolitano) over the illegal nature of the DACA program.
24 posted on 01/06/2013 1:19:43 PM PST by tanknetter
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To: tanknetter
The not so public face is the background on the shooting of the LA ICE ASAC by a supervisor that used to be INS. Other issues are the general treatment of any small legacy agency group within a larger organization. CBP has a lot of Border Patrol management despite some major players having really sketchy ethics backgrounds. BP Sector staff demands knowledge of almost all activities within their sector, but doesn't have a reputation for being able to keep secrets.

It is going to be an ongoing challenge.

25 posted on 01/06/2013 5:27:14 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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