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Why Civilian Disarmament in the U.S. is Just a Statist Fantasy
Survivalblog ^ | N/A | James Wesley Rawles

Posted on 01/08/2013 5:00:32 PM PST by RWB Patriot

I often have SurvivalBlog readers forward me alarmist e-mails, warning of "total disarmament" of the civilian populace. While there indeed may be plans or schemes to disarm Americans, I don't consider these threats credible. Let me explain why: I would conservatively estimate that there are about 316 million firearms in private hands in the United States. Of these, less than 10% are logged in any formal registry. Perhaps another 30% have Form 4473s filed with the FFL dealers where they were first purchased, but that is a fractured mishmash of records with a quite perishable life span. It is notable that we live in a very mobile society, where most families move every three or four years. And in most states, there are no record keeping requirements for secondary sales of firearms. So to call the accumulation of 4473 forms a de facto registration system is laughable.

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TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: banglist; democrats; disarmament; donttreadonme; guncontrol; guns; survivalblog; tyranny; youwillnotdisarmus
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretence, raised in the United States. A military force, at the command of Congress, can execute no laws, but such as the people perceive to be just and constitutional; for they will possess the power, and jealousy will instantly inspire the inclination, to resist the execution of a law which appears to them unjust and oppressive.”
-—Noah Webster, An Examination of the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution (Philadelphia 1787).


41 posted on 01/08/2013 6:50:47 PM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: RipSawyer
There's a passage in Atlas Shrugged where the govt minion admitted that they never had any intention of having folks comply with idiotic laws/regulations - they want the laws where almost everybody is a criminal. That way the populace is easier to control. Anyone can be arrested on govt whim.
42 posted on 01/08/2013 7:11:42 PM PST by Martin Tell (ask for the ancient paths, ask where the good way is, and walk in it)
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To: Marcella
>> First, he has to stop the purchase of magazines holding more than 10 bullets

A metal box with a spring in it. Amazing what liberals are afraid of. If they ever succeed in doing this, I guarantee that 20 million people will take up a new hobby: garage machinist.

43 posted on 01/08/2013 7:11:48 PM PST by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: Smokin' Joe

“...individuals are “collateral damage” on the way to accomplishing their goals. In their minds, the ends justify the means: “By any means necessary...”

That has to be turned back on them. The only way to stop Marxists is to make all the ‘collateral damage’ their families and friends.

Because of who conservatives are, it will be the hardest thing any of us ever have to do.


44 posted on 01/08/2013 7:12:52 PM PST by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: NewJerseyJoe
I guarantee that 20 million people will take up a new hobby: garage machinist.

Already the case in California where they have "build parties". Apparently, in the Gun Control Capital of the USA -- if you build it at home, you aren't required to register it.

Since California passed its Assault Weapons Ban in 1989, the residents have constructed millions of AR and AK type rifles.

All of those are off the books. All of them are quite legal.

Now, expand that to all 50 States. Not going to go too well for the Gun Grabbers, is it?

45 posted on 01/08/2013 7:24:35 PM PST by superloser
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To: tanknetter; 2ndDivisionVet

But if each freeper said they owned a gun.....

;)


46 posted on 01/08/2013 7:51:37 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: Repeat Offender
Just like they'll never be able to completely do away with a working flush toilet with a decent size water tank, or a proper shower head...........but try getting your hands on one.

I'm using them 33 years after I installed them.

47 posted on 01/08/2013 7:56:49 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: RightOnline

As has been posted here already, this was essentially discussed by Solzhenitsyn before. Though I believe that nearly all of the military and a significant portion of law enforcement would not comply with orders to confiscate weapons from private citizens, my argument (and Solzhenitsyn’s) does not depend on it. Once the confiscators start dying - and in such a scenario, they most certainly would - the remaining designated confiscators would quit.

It’s as simple as that.


48 posted on 01/08/2013 7:56:56 PM PST by flintsilver7 (Honest reporting hasn't caught on in the United States.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
BTTT

Dear Mr. Security Agent: A letter to law enforcement



49 posted on 01/08/2013 7:57:31 PM PST by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: Repeat Offender

mechanical items such as toilets and shower heads can be modified to operate “properly”.

Lawyers think abstractly and in narrow confines.

Engineers think tangibly and “outside the box”.

(Apply this to Congress and that’s how we got in the pickle we’re in; was intended to be part time....)


50 posted on 01/08/2013 8:01:33 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: riverrunner

Except that if a person has a FFL (even if they haven’t got a store) then they can’t do a private party deal; the firearm must be “moved” from personal stock to the “FFL” stock and the 4473 form has got to be filled out and the NICS check done.


51 posted on 01/08/2013 8:07:26 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: NewJerseyJoe

Or 3-D copiers


52 posted on 01/08/2013 8:12:42 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: SatinDoll
Because of who conservatives are, it will be the hardest thing any of us ever have to do.

SatinDoll, you are right. As much as it grieves me, we would have to employ tactics none would want to speak of afterwards. For all we know, the Left has been doing this already. We'd all best give that some thought beforehand, though--and hopefully, those against us will too and the situation will be averted.

They really need to back down. Once the dogs of war are loosed they will eat their fill.

53 posted on 01/08/2013 8:21:03 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Precisely. If we don't wrap our heads around that, we're done.

Imprisonment will likely lead to an early and/or horrible death. If they even bother with any more than a trench and a bullet.

54 posted on 01/08/2013 8:30:42 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: RWB Patriot

I think everyone is looking at this wrong ...

It’s a new TAX

Bronco Bama will figure out a way to FINE Gun owners that don’t comply... What he won’t be able to Confiscate he will Regulate and charge $ for the Privilege of Gun ownership and then have his database for what he really wants.

All ammo, pieces and parts will be tracked, taxed and indexed, you will be identified and located. Oh wait ...

TT


55 posted on 01/08/2013 8:58:23 PM PST by TexasTransplant (This needs to go viral http://vimeo.com/52009124 please watch it)
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To: superloser

***** “Since California passed its Assault Weapons Ban in 1989, the residents have constructed millions of AR and AK type rifles.”*****

I have a new found fondness for my brothers and sisters in CA

Y’all welcome to come visit Texas.

TT

Please see my tag... please watch it... please forward it


56 posted on 01/08/2013 9:11:39 PM PST by TexasTransplant (This needs to go viral http://vimeo.com/52009124 please watch it)
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To: arthurus

I see that you are not a member of the T party :)


57 posted on 01/08/2013 9:59:02 PM PST by conserv8 (It's not the end, it's the beginning.)
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To: jimbobfoster; All

The world’s largest ARmy - and this is just some of the registered hunters...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XjSSUC8IlY


58 posted on 01/08/2013 10:12:57 PM PST by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: chris37

http://www.google.com/imgres?q=id+rather+die+on+my+feet&hl=en&sa=X&tbo=d&rlz=1T4PRFB_enUS486US486&biw=1072&bih=567&tbm=isch&tbnid=h0L5_TgHWGMf2M:&imgrefurl=http://truththeory.com/2012/06/24/id-rather-die-on-my-feet/&docid=w3jGC3r5Yq8cJM&imgurl=http://truththeory.com/wp-content/themes/LondonLive/thumb.php%253Fsrc%253D/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/552795_325923690825767_87319943_n-900x383.jpg%2526w%253D340%2526h%253D192%2526zc%253D1%2526q%253D100&w=340&h=192&ei=2EzsUL2BIKmq2gWCuoD4AQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=169&vpy=173&dur=38&hovh=153&hovw=272&tx=186&ty=75&sig=100895288117262753459&page=3&tbnh=127&tbnw=226&start=38&ndsp=26&ved=1t:429,r:39,s:0,i:214


59 posted on 01/08/2013 11:03:05 PM PST by rolling_stone
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To: Alaska Wolf

I still have my first firearm. It’s a Steven’s Model 15-A bolt action with manual cocking, single-shot .22 rifle I received for my 5th birthday. Since Dad was working overseas at the time, he had Mom & my oldest brother get it for me, I believe from Sears.

I also have Dad’s 1940s Sears Ranger dbl bbl 12 gauge, and G-Grandpa’s Savage 32-40 lever action.

Unfortunately, nearly all my other weapons were lost overboard....


60 posted on 01/08/2013 11:21:28 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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