Posted on 01/10/2013 12:13:48 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
RALEIGH – Many North Carolina gun owners and gun enthusiasts are worried that new gun proposals that go far beyond an assault rifle ban would make many of the otherwise law abiding 80 million Americans who are gun owners into criminals if they do not register their weapons with federal authorities.
National and international media reports have stated that the White House under a committee led by Vice President Joe Biden is going to seek sweeping changes in how guns are registered, sold, and taxed in the wake of the Newton, Connecticut school shooting.
Under the potential proposals which have yet to be officially announced, all firearms would be required to be registered in a national database that would keep track of all guns and who owns them. The database would include all new guns but also would include all guns that have been sold in the past, as there would be no “grandfather” clause in the new proposals.
In addition, one gun shop operator told the Telegram that the proposals could basically treat all firearms as “class three” weapons.
This would mean that they would be tracked in a national database, that there would be a substantial tax on the guns, and that they could not be passed from generation to generation as they would be destroyed upon the death of the registered owner. In addition, it would be a federal crime to transfer the guns or even to own them without having them registered, even if they were legally obtained...
(Excerpt) Read more at raleightelegram.com ...
Won’t happen.
Unless we let it.
Oh, forgot, we’ve got “B*ll-less Bonehead.”
Oh noes, oh noes........
Brighten up, Comrade the vodka rations will numb all discontent.
/johnny
We need a 5 Million Gun Owner march asap on DC
Hows January 20th sound?
The idiot left would just love a national gun registration database, wouldn’t they. That way, instead of just releasing all of the names and addresses from one city or one county or one state, they could publish a nationwide list of gun owners in order to endanger and “shame” us all.
Screw that! I trust they know where they can shove that national gun registry.
Bwhaaa haaa haa! Could you imagine the huge percentage that would turn up "missing" right after the owners death?? What fools these people are, they don't even understand human nature!
A “good friend of mine” has seven weapons. The last of these was purchased in 1958. Somehow, I don’t think Obama will be able to find out about these. I wonder how many hundred million more weapons also fit into this category?
It’s “Title II” not Class III.
I formed several gun trusts last year just for this eventuality.
In my area of rural West Virginia it would be much easier to print a list of those who don't own guns (but maybe it would shame them into buying one).
If they start going to peoples houses who haven’t complied, I was just wondering how many people there are out there, who might be pretty good at setting up lethal booby traps and trip wires. Does anyone think many would resort to that? I wonder.
Apparently, BrainDamage Biden just spouted this off on the radio in the last couple of hours...
They want everyone on the criminal list because it gives them great power to selectively enforce the laws against those viewed as requiring a cage. Step out of line, and the man comes and takes you away.
Would that make us easier to round up? As hard as it is (& expensive) to travel to a protest far away, I’ve often thought that people should line the nearest main street to their home or work at a given time, on a given day- enough so the local media would have to cover it, as a display of support or dissent on a given issue. Not as a protest per se, & only with the occasional signage to clarify the position, but as an unspinnable (or corruptible) visible accounting.
It’s sad that it’s come to this, but visible physical presence is about the only way the truth could be seen. Our media, polls, & even elections, lie way too often.
Wow, pissin on the 2nd and the 5th.
We need to move on this fast.
That’s what they do. They pass laws that “make” legal behavior illegal, then they arrest the honest, law-abiding people and crow that they have solved the problem.
Meanwhile, they deliberately and intentionally leave illegal guns in the hands of the violent criminals who have more rights than the honest people.
How many people have been convicted for having a gun in their airline baggage which they genuinely forgot about?
I think that's what the 19 January thing is all about.
"Gun Appreciation Day" or somesuch.
That sounds wonderful, but it would take an organization like the NRA or GOA to organize it and, so far, nothing like that is planned. If they don't, it may soon be too late for demonstrations.
There are many of these deep, dark "hollers" here in West Virginia where you might have fifty homes, however they are really only several highly intermarried families. Everybody knows what's going on and who comes and goes. Now what do you think is going to happen the first time a dozen ATF agents come tooling up in their SUV's thinking they are going to raid some lone hicks guns, only to find a legion of heavily armed rednecks who know the area a heck of a lot better than them descending on them from all directions.(I'll give you a clue, read up on what happened to some of the "revenuer's" during prohibition) It's not a matter of if it will happen, but when...
I don’t have time to search and see if this has been posted. It needs to be.
Obamacare Amendment Forbids Gun and Ammo Registration
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/01/09/Backfire-Obamacare-Forbids-Gun-and-Ammo-Registration
>> 80 million Americans who are gun owners into criminals if they do not register their weapons with federal authorities.
Unless I’m mistaken, all or substantially all of this new gun owner criminal class are over 18 and not felons — and thus eligible to vote.
Obama got about 66 million votes in ‘12.
This is dangerous electoral math territory for the ‘Rats.
This crap won’t get thru Congress. If the President tries to order it, Congress will overturn it. There are far too many gun owners who WILL vote single issue if need be, and the democrats know it.
January 10, 2013 | The Interwebs
Apparently, BrainDamage Biden just spouted this off on the radio in the last couple of hours...
I'm starting to think Biden is the best friend we have, he's managed to fire up the movement in the last couple days like not even Obama could. (By the way Biden, if we DON'T register them, then you will have no way to find them, idiot.)
Someone has convinced Obama this will be no different than the Whiskey Rebellion.
Hooboy, don’t think so.
Depends on how thick your walls are.
Nothing makes Obama and this corrupt Government happier than when they can ca$h in on a tragedy.
There is a move to repeal NFA (highly restricted weapons regulation) as unconstitutional.
The _Heller_ case deemed handguns Constitutionally protected.
Expanding NFA to include handguns will make it easy to eliminate NFA altogether.
Tea party got two million people into DC for protests on just 3 days notice.
Just give us a reason and a date.
I haven’t heard about that, More info?
Class III? Or how about this one:
Tragically, I lost both my babies in a boating accident, I shall never see them again!
Armed!
Well, the consequences of doing so might exceed the power of the statement, but it would definitely make a statement!
There is actually going to be a Pro-Gun march on The Mall the week before the Inauguration.
So if they pass a law like this, does it make me a criminal, or does it confirm the one who passed it is one?
Seeing how who passes it is given authority by the Constitution that the law would be clearly violating, I really do not see such a law as binding and valid.
It is just a declaration of war on the Republic by some very evil men who have no authority by law. Shame on them.
It’’s not to shame or endanger us, but to CONTROL us!
These same liberals who say, “Think of the children,” have no problems killing unborn children in their mothers’ wombs.....55 million children killed by abortion since 1973 and counting.
http://www.uzitalk.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-17961.html
In which we find (search on Clinton in the text):
"Anyways, I had to sell it shortly after because Bill Clinton was an idiot and made this shotgun a class 3 item and I was not 21 at the time."
Other details are probably out there, somewhere.
grobdriver, did you mean this post for me? The question I had asked was for more information re Gun Appreciation Day. FR has been glitchy for me today & I know for some others (multiple posts TNFTO).
Two words:
Webster County.
Lived in WV all my life, and never had a beef with anyone. Still makes me slightly nervous to go there.
I know of LOTS of “hollers” over there where no one can hear you scream, even if you scream into a cell phone or radio.
Spread from gun shops to street corners... we are.
No worries. (More concerned that your post got to it’s intended recipient)
Thank you!
Thank goodness!
Dittos.
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