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(Video) What will Americans REALLY do if the Feds show up at their Doorstep?
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Posted on 01/10/2013 9:33:43 PM PST by publius321

"The Glenn Beck Show (IF Scott Was There)" Episode #1 Gun Confiscation...

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: banglist; beck; confiscation; glenn; guncontrol; guns; secondamendment

1 posted on 01/10/2013 9:33:51 PM PST by publius321
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To: publius321

someone buy that man a new tie (or shirt) and a tripod!


2 posted on 01/10/2013 9:40:46 PM PST by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: publius321

By the time the jackboots show up, Obama and his minions in the press will already have redefined gun owners as no better than mollesters.


3 posted on 01/10/2013 9:41:47 PM PST by umgud (as a daughter)
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To: publius321

What is this “doorstep” fantasy all over the place? It’s silly to allow an enemy to fix you in an inescapable position.

If a totalitarian government happened here, it’d make much more sense to tke advantage of the enemy’s predictable patterns of behavior to engage them somewhere besides your doorstep. Of course, this should be at a time of your choosing. Vasily Zaitsev was quoted as saying “impatience is death”.
Also, when targeting them, it would always be nice to place a barrier between your position and the target. Say, a river, a deep gorge, a busy interstate highway, etc. This means that in the unhappy event that one of the UN gun confiscation troops spots you, they still cannot easily storm your position.

Things like this could instill deep paralytic fear in these Pakistani troops we must surely be speaking of.

Interesting parlor conversation though.


4 posted on 01/10/2013 9:51:27 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: publius321
What will Americans REALLY do if the Feds show up at their Doorstep?

Watch from a distance and do the mil-dot calculations in their head. Any sucker walking into a trap like that deserves what he gets.

I won't be at home. I'll be hunting.

/johnny

5 posted on 01/10/2013 9:53:25 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: DesertRhino
What you said. You were faster on the post button than I was.

I don't get the assumption that after the 20th century and it's historical lessons, anyone would sit at home, waiting for the knock on the door.

We all know where that winds up.

/johnny

6 posted on 01/10/2013 9:57:02 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: publius321

Strangely enough, “the Feds” did show up at my door about 20 -25 years ago. An FBI agent knocked on my door, and asked to see a particular pistol I owned. He was very polite, almost apologetic. I checked his ID, made him wait by the door, went into the other room and retrieved the pistol in question. He checked the serial number and returned the gun to me, thanked me and left. As I recall, it had something to do with a stolen gun.


7 posted on 01/10/2013 9:57:38 PM PST by VietVet (I am old enough to know who I am and what I believe, and I 'm not inclined to apologize for any of)
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To: umgud
Then we are in trouble, because - if you have been following the gun control debates on other than conservative sites - a certain percentage of the posters already regard us firearms owners as obscenities.
8 posted on 01/10/2013 10:03:11 PM PST by VietVet (I am old enough to know who I am and what I believe, and I 'm not inclined to apologize for any of)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Great minds,,,,


9 posted on 01/10/2013 10:03:53 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: DesertRhino
And us.

/johnny

10 posted on 01/10/2013 10:04:48 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Oh yeah!


11 posted on 01/10/2013 10:07:45 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: cableguymn

that one was not worth going to the link


12 posted on 01/10/2013 10:22:32 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: DesertRhino
As I said on another thread:

I have to chuckle at this. By in large, Gov't does not forcefully have to take the weapons and arms of the individual.

As a whole, Americans comply with the law. So Gov't creates laws to control the sheep.

We already have enough laws on the books to take guns away. There aren't many people who stand against gun permits, and other controls on weapons. As a American, we don't need a permit to carry or have a gun. Nor should there be any restriction on any such weapon. Yet, will still as a whole, comply. Class III, FFL, lol.

Even criminals are outlawed and prevented from having a gun in most cases! Even a criminal should have the basic right to defend themselves. As we create more laws, we will have more criminals. The police state will create a criminal out of everyone. Throw in medication and other 'things' that in the future will prevent you from getting a gun.

By force, lol.

13 posted on 01/10/2013 10:24:30 PM PST by Theoria
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To: Theoria
Criminals get guns without a problem. And drugs.

Laws don't stop that.

Criminals get better firearms than I can lawfully buy.

Your premise is flawed.

/johnny

14 posted on 01/10/2013 10:30:14 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: publius321

I was reading somewhere else that a lot of people are actually waiting for when they show up, and how best to get them there sooner.

Not my idea, other peoples ideas.


15 posted on 01/10/2013 10:43:33 PM PST by Eye of Unk (AR2 2013 is the American Revolution part 2 of 2013)
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To: JRandomFreeper
The vast majority of Americans comply. That is part of the reason we in this condition today.

If you have a permit, your complying. It is only a matter of time before the love of freedom and concern for the 2nd amendment is bred out of the country.

So, no the Feds wont, nor will they need to show up at the door to ask for the gun.

16 posted on 01/10/2013 10:48:22 PM PST by Theoria
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To: publius321

17 posted on 01/10/2013 10:56:45 PM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: Theoria

You have a poor opinion of your fellow Americans, noobian princess, or of us.
It isn’t often that I disagree with every statement made in a post, in your case all five.


18 posted on 01/10/2013 11:07:25 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: publius321

If this our any other American Government goes rogue and begins stealing our Constitutional Rights and attacking US citizens many will not be waiting for anyone to show up at their door step. Once the Government has declared war on the people the fight is on. Many military units will turn on the Government and units that attack their own citizens. Civilians will link up with those units and police units that stand against the tyranny.


19 posted on 01/10/2013 11:12:10 PM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Your favorite movie star is pretending he’s Glenn Beck now.

I didn’t think you’d want to miss this.


20 posted on 01/10/2013 11:33:38 PM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: tumblindice
'You have a poor opinion of your fellow Americans, noobian princess, or of us.'

You just supported a post that links to truthers. Perhaps its late. Take care.

21 posted on 01/10/2013 11:52:54 PM PST by Theoria
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To: All

If a law banning firearms were to be passed and signed by obama, probably half the gun owners, if not more, wouldn’t know about it unless it was announced on AMERICAN IDOL.


22 posted on 01/11/2013 12:00:22 AM PST by Terry Mross
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To: publius321

Look for the second American civil war to begin.


23 posted on 01/11/2013 2:51:03 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: SECURE AMERICA

To translate, American civil war two would begin.


24 posted on 01/11/2013 2:52:45 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: JRandomFreeper; DesertRhino

The doorstep is more proverbial. You don’t have to take it literally. How about what will Americans do when the Feds (or UN) ambush them while they’re in the shower or mowing the lawn?

Best.


25 posted on 01/11/2013 5:29:47 AM PST by publius321
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To: SECURE AMERICA

I believe you are wrong. It is nice to think that, but it won’t happen IMO.

The police and military will obey whatever orders they are given. They have Communications equipment that is far superior to anything we have, and that is a great advantage when calling for help.


26 posted on 01/11/2013 5:49:45 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Venturer
They have Communications equipment that is far superior to anything we have

Um, no they don't. Every mode of communicantions that the police use was once invented by a ham radio operator.

I don't get why people have this image of the police and military being some kind of unstopable superpower.

All of the US military might, with other countries is bogged down in Afghanistan, and some of those Afghans are shooting old British Sharps rifles.

/johnny

27 posted on 01/11/2013 6:02:02 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

—Um, no they don’t. Every mode of communicantions that the police use was once invented by a ham radio operator.

I don’t get why people have this image of the police and military being some kind of unstopable superpower.

All of the US military might, with other countries is bogged down in Afghanistan, and some of those Afghans are shooting old British Sharps rifles.—

Um... yeah they do. And Afghans are “bogging” us down b/c we don’t use our whole military might. We could have easily gone in there, wiped them out, and then left in a year, but can’t b/c of having to be PC.


28 posted on 01/11/2013 6:16:13 AM PST by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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To: Venturer

The local and state police WILL NOT necessarily be involved in this. During the Waco siege, the feds were the ones that made the assault. And, there are gestapo-like assaults by the feds happening right now on small businesses across the country. See here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8mkqI_dVJg

But, one thing I noticed, is that to come up with 40 to 50 agents to pull off these raids, they have to pull agents from all across the country. As such, I definitely think they are outnumbered, and they would definitely have to call upon the military.

I think it will boil down to what state you live in as to whether or not this would happen to you.


29 posted on 01/11/2013 7:10:24 AM PST by eastexsteve
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To: DesertRhino
What is this “doorstep” fantasy all over the place? It’s silly to allow an enemy to fix you in an inescapable position

Dittoes.

FMCDH is a suicide gospel for people we cannot afford to lose. Engaging a trained tactical squad on your doorstep with your babies sleeping upstairs is romantic nonsense.

There are, well, let's say MANY soft targets on which the regime relies for its survival, the propaganda organs being first on the list. They cannot possibly cover them all.

If they mean to have a war (not yet totally clear, IMO), but if they do, let's hope more than a few of the patriots are familiar with Sun Tzu.

30 posted on 01/11/2013 7:26:25 AM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: eastexsteve

Living in Maryland, I am a dead dcuk.

The fag loving Governor would be outside in a Ninja suit himself to take my guns.


31 posted on 01/11/2013 7:31:46 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Venturer
Just where is this arms infringement enforcement going to come from? The mandate to defund defense is on the horizon. The USA under Obama is destined to be a paper tiger. I really think the domestic gun debate is just diverting our attention needlessly. Consider the contentious cabinet confirmation hearings, debt debates, numerous investigations of corruption in the Obama administration. Not to mention that Biden is a mentally incompetent moron and that he will produce recommendations by next Tuesday. What's taking him so long? This is more like a comic book than a government.
32 posted on 01/11/2013 7:41:10 AM PST by Postnbeam (Obama Cabinet Nominations are Political Molotov Coctails)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Re: “Watch from a distance and do the mil-dot calculations in their head...”

While a drone hovering about 18000’ overhead is watching him, and feeding real time IR video and GPS coordinates back to the assault team on the ground. All they have to do is punch those coordinates into a mortar or let a C-130 gunship make an example of you in order to dissuade others from engaging in similar suicidal gestures of defiance.

Sophisticated weapons technology is going to trump a lot of Patriot riflemen, I’m afraid, when the ball comes down.

Most of us may very well may find ourselves on the edge of Masada in very short order.


33 posted on 01/11/2013 8:04:14 AM PST by George Varnum (Liberty, like our Forefather's Flintlock Musket, must be kept clean, oiled, and READY!)
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To: George Varnum
If it's that easy, explain Afghanistan.

You give too much credit to our government.

/johnny

34 posted on 01/11/2013 8:11:12 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: publius321
This where Der Fuhrer's SS domestic security force will go to work. They will come with overbearing force to one house at a time. Resist and you're in trouble.....off to the Konzentrationerschlagen.

Arbeit Macht Frei.

35 posted on 01/11/2013 8:12:13 AM PST by stboz
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To: Jim Noble; All

“Engaging a trained tactical squad on your doorstep with your babies sleeping upstairs is romantic nonsense.”

Thanks Jim. That reminds me of this:

http://www.google.com/imgres?q=elian+gonzalez&hl=en&safe=strict&sa=X&tbo=d&biw=1280&bih=872&tbm=isch&tbnid=wwGBHSMYCK1oqM:&imgrefurl=http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2011/12/07/elian-gonzalez-turns-18-in-cuba/&docid=4cgKXHzmmdUPpM&imgurl=http://a57.foxnews.com/global.fncstatic.com/static/managed/img/fn-latino/news/660/371/EG%25252010%252520New.jpg&w=660&h=371&ei=l0HwULaJOZLG0AGWp4CYBA&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=2&vpy=284&dur=250&hovh=168&hovw=300&tx=172&ty=81&sig=110220683411803620283&page=1&tbnh=140&tbnw=250&start=0&ndsp=36&ved=1t:429,r:7,s:0,i:104

The state and local government needs to be prepared and not wait until an incident occurs. They need to expect it. The rule of law by the constitution must prevail.


36 posted on 01/11/2013 8:54:06 AM PST by publius321
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To: Postnbeam

“Just where is this arms infringement enforcement going to come from?”

Clearly the UN. I guess you haven’t noticed their increased involvement with the help of this administration.


37 posted on 01/11/2013 1:12:08 PM PST by publius321
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To: JRandomFreeper

“If it’s that easy, explain Afghanistan.
You give too much credit to our government.”

That’s easy Johnny. It is the same explanation for why Nadal Hasan to this day is not considered to be a “terrorist” and why the comfort and feelings of terrorist prisoners are attended to with such solicitude in Gitmo and other prisons.

The obvious answer is that this administration gives them deference because he agrees with them. The indisputable fact is that the left in this country see conservatives, Christians and conservative/Christians as the actual terrorists - for whom he will have nothing but savagry and will show no mercy if permitted to prevail.


38 posted on 01/11/2013 1:20:34 PM PST by publius321
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To: JRandomFreeper

Incendiaries with delayed fuses the size of a Kennedy half dollar with adhesive backing can be made by the bucketload out of home materials. Wander walking thru major cities like Kwai Chang Caine, lighting up every target of even the vaguest importance to authorities. Obama’s sons decide it’s free stuff night at the dept stores as the fire and police depts are busy, and the forces set to neutralize us have to be used against their own constituents. Lots of ways to create mayhem in an irregular fashion. Might get everyone dusaffected by Zero, left and right, in on the revolution. Might get real popular to blame the administration and get evetyone together on something for once. Might even start a “conservative green party” to bring in some disaffected souls...save the whales while schooling them on Jefferson and Madison. Just a thought.

And I don’t even have any guns. I have a felony from fifteen years ago for busting up a robbery attempt. I was mean and unfair to the robber, who was innocent, because he didn’t succeed. I was guilty, because I sent him to the hospital. Crazy, huh?


39 posted on 01/11/2013 2:02:10 PM PST by fattigermaster
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To: fattigermaster

That’s a cute story. You seem pretty creative and resourceful. I’m sure you find plenty of ideas to compensate for your lack of fire arms.

Nice job breaking up the robbery anyway.


40 posted on 01/11/2013 2:25:53 PM PST by publius321
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To: JRandomFreeper

Explain Afghanistan?

Easy.

Rules of Engagement and Geneva Convention, which must be strictly adhered to by our forces, costing them many lives of good Warriors as they have to fight with at least one hand tied behind their back and get a Lawyer’s permission before they touch off a round.

I do not expect any such courtesy to be extended to any recalcitrant, non compliant domestic rebel here though.

How many Taliban Hajis have been capped by our forces with hollow point bullets, for instance?

Collateral damage will not be a problem with this regime in a civil war; just try to resist and your house becomes a smoking crater / debris field. Don’t think they will nerve gas, bio infect or carpet bomb an entire neighborhood where they get significant push back?

If you doubt it, then you trust this syndicate a lot more than I do.


41 posted on 01/11/2013 3:36:19 PM PST by George Varnum (Liberty, like our Forefather's Flintlock Musket, must be kept clean, oiled, and READY!)
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To: publius321

Passing legal infringement is one thing. Enforcement of a law is another. Right now I can’t imagine a scenario where the UN polices the US. Please tell me I’m correct.


42 posted on 01/12/2013 9:19:57 AM PST by Postnbeam (Time is not on our side.)
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To: Postnbeam

“Passing legal infringement is one thing. Enforcement of a law is another. Right now I can’t imagine a scenario where the UN polices the US. Please tell me I’m correct.”

I believe that is why he piled on trillions of dollars more in obligations with 0bamacare at a time when Social Security are already bankrupting us due to the fact that they have to borrow just to make payments. There are now only 1.6 workers for each person receiving benefits.

After he succeeds in deliberately destroying the currency, the rest of the world’s fiat currencies will follow. Then, when the global currency and global government are sold as the only option (after hitting a “reset button on global debt), the UN is here to give more authority... which will create a scenario where they grab the guns.

He’s already selling us out with UN Treaties.


43 posted on 01/14/2013 9:06:51 PM PST by publius321
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To: George Varnum; Jim Noble

As JN writes, “romantic nonsense.” There’s an epidemic of it on this issue.
The true power is not in your gun ownership but your productivity. If you really want to bring down the govt, or radically change it back to what it once was and should have remained, you can do it bloodlessly and successfully in a matter of DAYS. Organize enough productive taxpayers to agree on the demands, and then announce you will stop paying taxes. Whether you continue making money and resist courageously, or quit making money and resist legally, that’s your call.
But the govt cannot, absolutely cannot, survive without the revenue you supply it.
Not one bullet needs to fly. There’s nobody, up to and including the Pres_ent, who would not be thrown under a bus if you demanded it as a condition of paying taxes.
Want Obama out of the WH? If you shut the purse, who’d oppose his instant retirement? The EBT Party would be screaming for his removal.
In the meantime, this is a welfare state, a corrupt state, supporting welfare states and terror states around the world, because you the producers of wealth make it possible.
So put down your arms and snap your purses shut. You can make them all dance, Obama, the Congress, the military, the police, all.
You pay their salaries. They work for you. Suspend their pay and let the party begin.


44 posted on 01/15/2013 5:56:35 AM PST by HomeAtLast ( You're either with the Tea Party, or you're with the EBT Party.)
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