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Secession? Sean Hannity says it's not such a radical idea
The Examiner ^ | January 12, 2013 | Jake Jones

Posted on 01/13/2013 12:52:58 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Sean Hannity, a FoxNews prime time anchor for conservative news and views, says that secession is not necessarily a radical concept. Hannity is currently ranked No. 2 in Talker Magazine's Top 100 Talk Host in America.

His remarks came yesterday, Jan. 11, 2013, during his evening show. At the end of his program, Hannity has a short opinion segment where he espouses his opinion on the day’s hot topics. He oft times incorporates his personal feelings into that segment, as he did yesterday. (Listen to the audio and video below)

Quoting him from the show, he said,

““The states are now fighting and battling against their own federal government,” he said. ”Same thing with individuals. If you live in a state like New York, New Jersey, California or one of these high-tax states where 60-plus cents of every dollar goes to taxes, you’ll say, ‘What the hell am I doing this for,” he went on to say.

He went on to say that a lot of people have told him that, and that a lot of people are moving to more tax-friendly states, like Texas. He mentioned Louisiana where Bobby Jindal has just suggested that his state should remove the state income tax there. He warned that the states that are shouldering the burden of the states with higher taxes may want to stop doing that. In other words leave the Union....

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: california; louisiana; newjersey; newyork; seanhannity; secession; talkradio; texas

1 posted on 01/13/2013 12:53:06 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Secession?

More like dissolution of the existing compact between the citizens and the Federal Criminals. No sane person can twist the interpretation of the Constitution to such a degree and still say kept their oath to protect and defend the U.S. Constitution.

Treasonous Criminal Vermin.

2 posted on 01/13/2013 12:58:44 PM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Not all marriages can be saved; indeed, not all marriages should be saved. How hard is that to figure out?
3 posted on 01/13/2013 12:59:20 PM PST by Standing Wolf
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hannity. The New Piers Morgan, and heading in the same direction. Douche.


4 posted on 01/13/2013 12:59:59 PM PST by MotorCityBuck ( Keep the change, you filthy animal! ,)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It is so funny how we as Americans go out and lecture other nations about letting certain regions in their country declare independence, yet our gov and powers to be get very uncomfortable with our own states leaving the union. That is why the US is seen in the world as hypocrites at best or have selfish motives at worst to dominate the world. When those who advocate the US should use their world power status to interfere (ala crusade) we fall into the trap of not able to live up to the ideals we lecture. That is why our founding fathers want us to be the New World or shining city on the hill for the world to see and emulate, and not the Leader of Democracy as advocated by Pres Wilson which entangles us in foreign affairs at cost to our reputation, ideals, blood and treasure only to have the ones we help turn around and spit on us.


5 posted on 01/13/2013 1:04:12 PM PST by Fee
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To: Fee
It is so funny how we as Americans go out and lecture other nations about letting certain regions in their country declare independence, yet our gov and powers to be get very uncomfortable with our own states leaving the union

No no, Americans did do any of that, it was your corrupt controlling government that stuck it's arrogant controlling azz into other countries biz, which acted all concerned about other countries rights and other countries borders while America and the American middle class circled the drain and went broke... How stooopid is that?

These corrupt American foreign policies which only benefited the extreme wealthy, have cost the American people untold many trillions in tax dollars and tens of thousands of American lives..

In fact, it's left America all but dead on the floor....

Not enough?

We were actually warned repeatedly about all this by the American founders...We were warned about the extreme wealthy, the bankers, the globalist, the dynasties, the U.N., and other wealthy controlling insiders.

We were warned about every bit of this.

6 posted on 01/13/2013 1:24:56 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Fee

No no, Americans ***didn’t*** do any of that


7 posted on 01/13/2013 1:26:16 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

About a year ago didn’t the FedGuv threaten an AIR BLOCKADE against either AZ or TX..?

Can’t remember what it was about.


8 posted on 01/13/2013 1:26:29 PM PST by gaijin
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To: Fee

Spring is coming!


9 posted on 01/13/2013 1:27:27 PM PST by Morris70
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hannity has made the conscious choice to lay waste to his personal and professional legacy, to fade away as a has been who punched his ticket by selling out to the establishment he always yearned to become a member of in his years on the air.

He’s all for violent secession as long as his own darling children are no where near the frontlines fighting and dieing for the smoke and mirror emotional junk food pablums he spouts every day on the air.

He wouldn’t even dare spend a nickel supplying accoutrements to those who follow him down this one way road, for fear of loss of his own life, or even worse his own fortune being confiscated by the Feds before he can spend it all.

But man, his 55 second long musical intros between commercials selling shady Medicare Supplement policies should make me snap my fingers.


10 posted on 01/13/2013 1:28:43 PM PST by JerseyHighlander
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To: Fee

Good, thought provoking comment. As I look back on the undeclared wars and deaths to our young men, and now our young women too, I become more and more of an isolationist. I do not think we should ever send our troops into another country unless it is a declared war. And I think we need to fight such a war to win decisively, not controlled by some sort of idiotic rules of engagement sent out by Washington DC. I also think we need to close our borders tightly and sort out what we have let into our country. But I fear the proverbial cat is out of the bag on that subject!


11 posted on 01/13/2013 1:33:43 PM PST by pepperdog ( I still get a thrill up my leg when spell check doesn't recognize the name/word Obama!)
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To: MotorCityBuck
Hannity’s viewership must be going down down down ... he is reaching for attention and this is looking more like he is interviewing blowup dolls asking why the Republicans didnt win the Presidental Election ... and the blow up dolls respond with sounds of helium which is the equivalent of what hot air comes out of both Hannity and his guests mouth.

When talking heads and his “Friends” walk the welfare communities and talk to people at that level ... then I might return to viewing on Fox until now Hannity and his “friends” are spewing hot air .... just sayin

12 posted on 01/13/2013 1:38:07 PM PST by GoldnGate
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
During his expression of free speech, he suggested that the idea of states seceding from the Union was not at all a “radical concept”, and even suggested that the Declaration of Independence itself is a “radical document.”

Seems like there's a contradiction there. Maybe the people who keep saying that Sean's not to bright were on to something.

Secession would turn out to be a very radical idea. For example, Sean's going to feel awkward wrapping himself in the flag when it only has half the stars it does today.

More generally, splitting up the union would confirm that our era was over, and a lot of American rhetoric is going to sound quite hollow when we have to live with our failure to endure.

13 posted on 01/13/2013 1:39:35 PM PST by x
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To: x; 2ndDivisionVet

I think the whole secession conversation is a distraction from what should be the focus on the 10th amendment and the true exercise of Constitutional Federalism>


14 posted on 01/13/2013 1:52:21 PM PST by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Isn’t Hannity part of the Washington and NY swamp?

I don’t think he has thought his opinion all the way through...we would be cutting off all ties from THEM.


15 posted on 01/13/2013 2:17:43 PM PST by RetSignman (The fastest way to get ignored by a politcian...vote one into office.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Secession is implicit in the right of the people to consent to their government. If they do not consent, then they have every right to leave.


16 posted on 01/13/2013 2:21:52 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: JerseyHighlander

Now tell us what you really think.


17 posted on 01/13/2013 2:25:01 PM PST by Dennis M.
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To: Fee

A meddlesome Obama should keep his nose out of our affairs
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2261010/A-meddlesome-Obama-nose-affairs.html#ixzz2HtgAR1tk


18 posted on 01/13/2013 2:31:05 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: GoldnGate; MotorCityBuck

His ratings took a massive hit, right after 11/6/12:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2974205/posts


19 posted on 01/13/2013 2:58:17 PM PST by carriage_hill (AR-15s are the 21st Century's Muskets. Self-defense is the First Human Right.)
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To: TEXOKIE
I think the whole secession conversation is a distraction from what should be the focus on the 10th amendment and the true exercise of Constitutional Federalism

Well first and foremost, the states and the people can try to exercise their 10th amendment rights. And we are starting to see some of that now.

But if the federal government denies the exercise of such rights, then secession would be next up.

Glad Hannity brought that up.

20 posted on 01/13/2013 4:12:30 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How ironic!

Hannity is ranting and raving about succession and his home state of New York is one of the unlikeliest states to leave.

Maybe he’ll have to move.

Hey Sean, pick someplace besides South Carolina, okay?


21 posted on 01/13/2013 4:37:19 PM PST by upchuck (America's at an awkward stage. Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: JerseyHighlander
He’s all for violent secession as long as his own darling children are no where near the frontlines fighting and dieing for the smoke and mirror emotional junk food pablums he spouts every day on the air.

Secession need not be violent, but like a typical Yankee that is the first thing you think of - violence.

22 posted on 01/13/2013 4:43:15 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: x; 2ndDivisionVet
Maybe the people who keep saying that Sean's not to bright were on to something.

Sad to say, I've been thinking that for a while, now.

More generally, splitting up the union would confirm that our era was over, and a lot of American rhetoric is going to sound quite hollow when we have to live with our failure to endure.

I agree with the second half of your statement, and I grieve for the country we allowed to fall into socialism. There are a lot of reasons that happened, too lengthy to go into here, and we're all familiar with them anyway.

On the other hand, if we had our own country, we could tweak the Constitution to absolutely prohibit socialism, wealth redistribution and government meddling in the economy except to enforce contracts (the real purpose of government as envisioned by the Founders).

It would also give us the opportunity to FINALLY have a capitalist society right next to their socialist society to once and for all settle the argument about socialism versus capitalism. I would even egg them on to make their new country MORE socialist, just for higher contrast. Of course, those idiots would continue to deny the power of capitalism even while they were living in cardboard boxes they stole from across the border in our capitalist country.

23 posted on 01/13/2013 4:49:47 PM PST by Hardastarboard (The Liberal ruling class hates me. The feeling is mutual.)
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To: x

I took an elective in college, an anthropology class, and one statement made by the proff that stuck with me all these years was “all borders are temporary”. And, there’s no reason to believe that the U.S. is an exception to this. In fact, recently read an interesting book, “The Next 100 Years”, author George Friedman who makes some interesting predictions on the coming political relationship between Mexico and our southern border states. While I realize that futurists are right down there with economists when it comes to predicting things it’s still a thought provoking read. Recommend it for sure.


24 posted on 01/13/2013 5:05:21 PM PST by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: MotorCityBuck

I agree. Hannity’s jumped the shark.


25 posted on 01/13/2013 5:47:26 PM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: TEXOKIE
I think the whole secession conversation is a distraction from what should be the focus on the 10th amendment and the true exercise of Constitutional Federalism>

Well, I'd agree with you except for one tiny little flaw - zero and the Congress have destroyed the rule of law and shredded the Constitution. The 17th Amendment effectively ended any real protection of state's rights, so now where does that put us??

Unfortunately, IMO, the only way to restore the Constitution and save America is to temporarily destroy the country through secession. Once the left has created its socialist paradise for its sycophants (who will be required to live there for a minimum of 10 years before they can emigrate to the United States of Conservative America), they will finally understand that it was conservatives all along who funded their deviant lifestyles and their lack of any requirement to support themselves.

After 10 years in their socialist h#ll, working for a living and having a small government that doesn't rob every available spare penny from the people who earned it won't look so bad to the DU and Daily Kos krowd!!

26 posted on 01/13/2013 5:55:31 PM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for anti-American criminals!!)
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To: jmacusa

Looks like the idea of secession is becoming more mainstream everyday. If someone like Hannity who lives in fear of his advertisers, says this on air, wow. It must rally upset you.....


27 posted on 01/13/2013 5:57:36 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

Yeah Reb, it ‘’rally’’ upsets me. I like living in The United States of America and wouldn’t want to live in some neo-European balkanized crap-hole you would seem to prefer.


28 posted on 01/13/2013 6:01:12 PM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: jmacusa

I will have to start listening to Sean again, he is starting to get it.


29 posted on 01/13/2013 6:02:39 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

You do that Reb, and you’ll have another ignoramus who wants to live in a balkanized crap-hole like you do.


30 posted on 01/13/2013 6:06:55 PM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: jmacusa

Like all the other immature unionist thug Lincoln Coven members, you always want the last post.


31 posted on 01/13/2013 6:34:47 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

Jeez Reb, irony is sure lost on you ,isn’t it?


32 posted on 01/13/2013 6:54:50 PM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: central_va; jmacusa
I will have to start listening to Sean again, he is starting to get it.

Go right ahead but you're rally gonna be disappointed... ;-)

33 posted on 01/13/2013 7:59:46 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Hardastarboard
Most people aren't that interested in politics, except in times like the Revolution or the Civil War, and even then, a lot of people were apathetic or uncommitted, and the passions eventually subsided.

Right now you find a lot of people basically vote against some other, faraway part of the country. They vote against what they think New York or Los Angeles or Boston (or Mississippi or Oklahoma or Alabama) represents. Split up the country, and, sure, free of that other part you are free to be more conservative (or more liberal).

But after a while, you can't vote against people who aren't even part of your country so the solidarity begins to crack. When the other side isn't somebody far away, but a neighbor, politics can start to change from what it has been, and you may just find that a generation down the road things aren't so different politically within the seceded states as they are now.

In so far as people do have strong opinions about politics tradition is a factor. When you have to cross a border (or more than one border) to go to Jamestown or Plymouth or Independence Hall or Valley Forge or Mount Vernon or Gettysburg or the Statue of Liberty or Mount Rushmore or Yellowstone or Yosemite that sense of being an American and all that it implies is going to be weakened.

Libertarians may tell you that a country truly committed to its principles may be as small as Andorra or San Marino, but I'm not so sure. Psychologically, breaking up is bound to be a major trauma, and people born afterwards will have a very different perspective -- I'd say a much shorter and grimmer one. That may be true whatever happens, though.

34 posted on 01/14/2013 3:12:45 PM PST by x
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To: x
Aside from the psychological implications of breaking the US apart, a key consideration has to be leaving the remaining segments of the parted country large enough, and with enough natural resources, to defend itself against any takers.

Had the Confederacy won the Civil War, it may have decided on December 7, 1941, that Pearl Harbor was a Yankee problem (of course, without Southern Democrats voting in 1932, Roosevelt may not have been President, and Pearl Harbor may not have happened - who knows?). Had that happened, the Northern states would have had to fight the Japanese and the Germans with perhaps 2/3 of the population they actually had, and perhaps subsequently lost.

That could have led to a German invasion of the North American continent, and all of the resultant destruction that could have caused. All of that is speculation, of course. My point is, the surviving countries need to be strong enough to hold off any challengers. Whether the liberal dominated country would ultimately have the will to even fight for their territory if challenged is another question.

35 posted on 01/14/2013 3:37:08 PM PST by Hardastarboard (The Liberal ruling class hates me. The feeling is mutual.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It will happen in our lifetimes, count on it.

The reality is that for a large nation, the average time it can stay together is about 250. How old is the USA, 233 years?


36 posted on 01/15/2013 4:01:32 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: FreeReign; x; 2ndDivisionVet; DustyMoment

I fear where all this is heading, as I know all of you do as well. I just pray that only the Will of God will be done in the unfolding of events. I pray that He will deliver us from the necessity of secession and civil war. I pray for a new Great Awakening, for I believe that would be the true key for our deliverance.

Not quite on topic, but I was at the grocery store a little while ago. I was getting ready to pay my bill, and while I was looking for the money denomination, I commented that I was looking for the correct President to give her in payment. As the bill as rather high, but under $100, I said, “Well, he’s not a president, but I’ll bet Benjamin will suffice.”

The precious angel bagging the groceries, said, “He was too a president, wasn’t he?”

I told her, “no, truly he wasn’t.”

“Then why is he on the money if he wasn’t a president?”

I said, “because he was a Founder. We all owe Benjamin Franklin a LOT!”

Then the checker who had been listening piped in, “Well, wasn’t he the one who wrote the Declaration of Independence?” (She had to reach for that one, but finally shook it off from the dusts of her memory.)

I said, “No, he did not write it, but was on the committee which wrote it. Thomas Jefferson actually wrote it. Franklin was very instrumental in getting it signed.”

The checker asked, “are you a history teacher?”

I said, “No, just someone who really loves the history of the Founding.”

The checker said I should be. I thanked her, but said that I didn’t know enough to do that.

At that point I asked if they had seen the musical “1776.” Neither of them had. I told them if they ever saw it on TV, to give it a try. It is quite moving and delightfully entertaining. Give it 10 minutes, then if they couldnt stand it, move on....but my guess is that if they gave it the 10 minutes they would watch it all.

The checker and the bagger were both of similar college age, (in fact the bagger is taking American History or Government!) I do wish them well, and hope I was able to encourage them to learn more.

All we can do is drop the seeds and hope they fall on fallow ground...and we never really know, do we? That is in the hand of the One whose paygrade is way above ours!

I just this instant saw this article on Yahoo about Texas secession:

http://news.yahoo.com/white-house-texas-must-remain-part-us-212720777.html


37 posted on 01/15/2013 3:45:46 PM PST by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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