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Police chiefs have some say on gun shows (Another new tactic?)
The Meriden Record-Journal ^ | January 12, 2013 | Jesse Buchanan

Posted on 01/13/2013 3:01:39 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Most gun laws are set by the state, but with gun shows, local police chiefs have some leeway.

Recently Waterbury Police Chief Michael Gugliotti made the news when he refused to grant organizers of a gun show a permit following the Newtown shooting, drawing on authority given to police chiefs and town executives by state statutes.

Gugliotti said he was concerned that guns sold at the show might one day be used in a mass shooting.

Police chiefs say the law gives them discretion in their municipality and allows them to determine whether a gun show is suitable. Critics say there’s no reason for police to have a say about whether or not sellers can hold a gun show.

Permits to hold a gun show must be obtained from a municipality’s police chief, warden of the borough or first selectman, according to state statutes. Southington Police Chief Jack Daly, also president of the Connecticut Police Chiefs Association, said it’s a good local control measure.

“It’s each chief who knows his town the best,” Daly said. “Who knows the town of Waterbury better than the Waterbury police chief?”

In his 10 years as chief, Daly said, there have been no requests for a gun show in Southington. Whether he’d grant a permit would depend on the particulars of the show, he said.

The most recent gun show in the area was held in 2011 at the former MountainRidge event center in Wallingford...

(Excerpt) Read more at myrecordjournal.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Government
KEYWORDS: banglist; connecticut; guncontrol; lawenforcement; secondamendment
Just set up in unused building or tents outside city limits.
1 posted on 01/13/2013 3:01:45 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Maybe this police chief should make sure nobody sneezes for fear of starting a flu epidemic. What a maroon.


2 posted on 01/13/2013 3:04:48 PM PST by Past Your Eyes (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Funny thing, I see my police chief at gun shows all the time as a customer, hang with him at the range, and I have a feeling he may be a freeper as he keeps posting links from here on his facebook.

Not too worried here.


3 posted on 01/13/2013 3:05:20 PM PST by mnehring
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yet another cop who never understood his oath of office.


4 posted on 01/13/2013 3:06:36 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I have read of law enforcement guns being misplaced or stolen. Couldn’t they be used in mass shootings?

With that logic, he should hand his guns over.


5 posted on 01/13/2013 3:08:33 PM PST by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
They tried this crap in Houston and the court slapped them down.
Said if you're going to allow someone to have a craft show, you have to let someone else have a gun show.
Can't discriminate, you know...

Now they're trying the same thing in Travis county and Austin but the Texas Attorney General basically told them it wasn't going to fly - they could try it, but they'd loose the case and cost the county or city, whichever one tried it, a lot of money.

6 posted on 01/13/2013 3:15:59 PM PST by grobdriver (Sic semper tyrannis!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Look at this illogically insane non-sequitur statement by a gun-control group in Connecticut:

“All guns start with a legal sale from a licensed dealer.
Yet in Connecticut, more than 85 percent of gun crimes
are committed by people who cannot legally purchase guns.-
Based on a review of 290 incidents of gun crime where the
origin of the gun was identified.”

http://www.cagv.org/gunfacts.html


7 posted on 01/13/2013 3:19:27 PM PST by bunkerhill7 ( duhhhh)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“...concerned that guns sold at the show might one day be used in a mass shooting.”

Close-down the car dealerships and bars, too, chief. They’re more likely to result in deaths than firearms.


8 posted on 01/13/2013 3:21:43 PM PST by carriage_hill (AR-15s are the 21st Century's Muskets. Self-defense is the First Human Right.)
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To: mnehring
I have read this suggestion that we call our county sheriff and ask him what he would do if he was directed by oboma to confiscate the guns of We the People....

I've heard that the military and the police officers would NOT go after law abiding citizens who are protected under the Second Amendment and own guns to protect themselves, their families against injury from either the thugs OR a socialist govt. such as ours, who want to take our guns away to control us, as all good socialists in other countries do. There will be exceptions, of course, but as i read it, the military and police officers are fed up with obozo, and know that they took an oath to defend and uphold the Constitution, our Freedom and Liberty AND NOT A PRESIDENT. And these same men and women would not risk their lives for a socialist directive to take guns away from those who have a right to own them, as we ALL do, except if you're a thug who uses it to rob and kill people. And we all know the THUGS have guns, as well as those people protecting presidents, and others who value their life, but think they can deprive us of our rights and jeopardize our safety in this society. To that I say bullsh*t...remember, delay, obstruct, refuse, sabotage any effort by the left to take your guns away from you...remember, first they come for your guns, and then they can come for YOU.

9 posted on 01/13/2013 3:44:58 PM PST by itssme
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To: itssme

I can’t find an exception for police chiefs in the Second Amendment.


10 posted on 01/13/2013 3:49:31 PM PST by Argus
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To: Past Your Eyes

Perhaps the chief should be institutionalized until that possible day when he is capable of cogent thought.


11 posted on 01/13/2013 3:52:49 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: grobdriver

They tried this crap in Houston and the court slapped them down.
Said if you’re going to allow someone to have a craft show, you have to let someone else have a gun show.
Can’t discriminate, you know...

That not correct. The Texas Constitution preempts all city and county laws.
-——————————————————————————————SUBCHAPTER A. REGULATION OF FIREARMS AND EXPLOSIVES

Sec. 229.001. FIREARMS; EXPLOSIVES. (a) Notwithstanding any other law, including Section 43.002 of this code and Chapter 251, Agriculture Code, a municipality may not adopt regulations relating to:

(1) the transfer, private ownership, keeping, transportation, licensing, or registration of firearms, ammunition, or firearm supplies; or

(2) the discharge of a firearm at a sport shooting range.

(b) Subsection (a) does not affect the authority a municipality has under another law to:

(1) require residents or public employees to be armed for personal or national defense, law enforcement, or another lawful purpose;

(2) regulate the discharge of firearms within the limits of the municipality, other than at a sport shooting range;

(3) regulate the use of property, the location of a business, or uses at a business under the municipality’s fire code, zoning ordinance, or land-use regulations as long as the code, ordinance, or regulations are not used to circumvent the intent of Subsection (a) or Subdivision (5) of this subsection;

http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/LG/htm/LG.229.htm#229.001


12 posted on 01/13/2013 3:56:02 PM PST by fudimo
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Waterbury Police Chief said that he will refuse a Gun Show Permit to anyone requesting one, even though during the ten years he has been Police Chief, No one has ever requested a permit.

He went out of his way to make news when there was no news there.

What a moron Waterbury has for a Police Chief !


13 posted on 01/13/2013 4:02:38 PM PST by Chief901 (Tyranny coming to an area near you soon !)
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14 posted on 01/13/2013 4:09:22 PM PST by RedMDer (Those that believe in gun free zones should wear GUN FREE ZONE T-SHIRTS.)
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To: itssme

Do you suppose that’s why obama wants a brownshirt civilian army?


15 posted on 01/13/2013 4:19:47 PM PST by South Dakota (shut up and drill)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Liberals are like "Rain Man" when it comes to fixing problems. We have to ban guns. We have to ban guns. Guns are the problem. We have to ban guns.

Talk about a one dimensional view of the world.

16 posted on 01/13/2013 4:29:14 PM PST by Hardastarboard (The Liberal ruling class hates me. The feeling is mutual.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
So if a person that is denied a gun by this method is killed in a home invasion does the family get to sue the police?
17 posted on 01/13/2013 4:30:08 PM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Just set up in unused building or tents outside city limits.

Connecticut doesn't have unincorporated territory; all land is subject to some municipality. Counties pretty much exist for Fed court jurisdiction purposes only.
18 posted on 01/13/2013 5:09:27 PM PST by Dr. Sivana ("C'est la vie" say the old folks, it goes to show you never can tell. -- Chuck Berry)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Gugliotti said he was concerned that guns sold at the show might one day be used in a mass shooting.

I'm concerned that one of his departments weapons might one day be used in a mass shooting. Hand them over chief!

19 posted on 01/13/2013 5:25:08 PM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I guess Waterbury doesn’t want any sales tax receipts. Eh. BFD. Different town next time.


20 posted on 01/13/2013 5:31:37 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Waterbury Police Chief Michael Gugliotti and his gun-toting thugs in their magic blue costumes should be IMMEDIATELY disarmed, because I’m concerned that their weapons might one day be used in a mass shooting.

Also, the town citizens who wish it should also IMMEDIATELY be issued semi-automatic defensive rifles, with high-capacity magazines, which would help minimize the damage should a government gunthug’s weapons fall into the wrong hands.


21 posted on 01/13/2013 6:25:00 PM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Chief Gugliotti is a member of the anti gun IACP, International Assoc. of Chiefs of Police.

Another union politician with a badge. In lock-step with the democrat party.


22 posted on 01/13/2013 8:03:19 PM PST by Cap'n Crunch (Rush Limbaugh, the Winston Churchill of our time)
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To: Argus

I wasn’t aware of what you’ve stated, but as a matter of curiosity, and especially if you live in a blue state area, I’d be curious to hear what a police chief would say.


23 posted on 01/13/2013 10:22:13 PM PST by itssme
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To: elkfersupper

I fear there are many public servants who are equally ignorant.


24 posted on 01/13/2013 10:33:46 PM PST by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: South Dakota
Like any other dictator, he wants men around him who will be loyal to him. He knows the military and law enforcement officers for the most part won't fall in line with his socialist policies and carry out his orders. He dreams of a well-funded, well organized army who will protect him and do as he directs. He is also cutting back our military forces...let's see where the money from this cost-cutting measure goes....
25 posted on 01/13/2013 10:38:59 PM PST by itssme
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