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Video: NRA's 'Stand and Fight,' targets Malia and Sasha Obama (Uh, no it doesn't)
Digital Journal ^ | January 16, 2013 | JohnThomas Didymus

Posted on 01/17/2013 12:00:10 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

The NRA released on Tuesday an ad that accuses Obama of being an "elitist hypocrite," because he provides armed protection for his children but insists that the nation's schools remain "gun-free zones."

The video is part of the NRA's offensive dubbed "Stand and fight," in response to its anticipation of Obama's announcement of stricter gun control measures. According to Boston.com, the 35-second video posted to YouTube by user HotWeirdNews, also appeared on the NRA's website on Tuesday. However, the video was removed from the NRA's website by Wednesday morning. The ad begins with a shot of a school, the American flag and a voice-over, saying "Are the president's kids more important than yours?" The narrator continues: "Then why is he skeptical about putting armed security in our schools when his kids are protected by armed guards at their schools?" The ad then shows images featuring President Obama, Vice President Joe Biden, New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg and Senator Dianne Feinstein, while the narrator says: "Mr Obama demands the wealthy pay their fair share of taxes. But he's just another elitist hypocrite when it comes to a fair share of security." It ends with the argument that the "elitist hypocrites" (aka Obama, Biden, Bloomberg and Feinstein) are providing "protection for their kids, but gun-free zones for ours." Media reactions Boston.com reports that the White House has responded to the NRA video, describing it as "repugnant and cowardly." The majority of comments on YouTube are critical of the ad, pointing out that Malia and Sasha, being children of the president, are vulnerable....

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On The Five Bob Beckel claimed that only the Secret Service is armed at Sidwell Friends School even though most of us know that there are eleven such guards at that school in addition to those there for the Obama girls.
1 posted on 01/17/2013 12:00:32 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If Bolshevik Bob stopped lying he’d be a mime.


2 posted on 01/17/2013 12:30:13 AM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The ad was stupid. Look it doesn’t matter what the intent was. As soon as you go after the President’s children or just mention them you are going to get beat up in the press. You might not like the reality, you may disagree with it. The only question I have is, like all advertising, does it help or hurt your brand? Look at the polling on the issues. Why a month after the tradegedy are the numbers still going up for additional regulation? Why are the republicans considered extreme by the majority of Americans? The NRA has come off as extremist uncompromising fools. They defiantly need a new PR firm.

The point is it does not matter if you are right if you lose the battle. As my dad said when I started driving “ be right, but, don’t be dead right.”


3 posted on 01/17/2013 12:32:35 AM PST by chopperjc
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To: chopperjc

You think the press won’t beat up on the NRA if they just get warm and fuzzy eh? lol


4 posted on 01/17/2013 12:35:25 AM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: chopperjc
The Present uses other people's kids ~ we use his kids.

Only seems fair, and you know how Democrats are about fairness eh.

5 posted on 01/17/2013 12:35:38 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Repugnant and cowardly?

Why that’s a perfect description of our Kenyan in chief, now isn’t it?


6 posted on 01/17/2013 12:36:34 AM PST by Bullish (The stench from this amateur regime stinks all the way to Kenya.)
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To: chopperjc
Reading through Obamugabe's 23 theses it appeared to me we won the school guard issue so the advertisement worked!

BTW, Beckle doesn't believe in guards at school ~ he'd rather let the kiddies huddle in a corner as the mad dog killer fires into their crowd and slaughters them like animals.

We should lock people like Beckle up. They are, themselves, mad men.

7 posted on 01/17/2013 12:38:37 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: chopperjc
The NRA has come off as extremist uncompromising fools.

Only to gun grabbing liberals, which is what that statement says about you. We don't plan on "compromising" our 2nd amendment rights away, get it?

8 posted on 01/17/2013 12:45:16 AM PST by Bullish (The stench from this amateur regime stinks all the way to Kenya.)
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To: Bullish

Better look at the polls again. 60 percent ban assault weapons and no I don’t know what an assault weapon is either. 85 percent want background checks.
This seems like a lot more than just the far left.


9 posted on 01/17/2013 12:51:55 AM PST by chopperjc
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To: muawiyah

You miss the point. You may feel better by using his kids and you may think it is fair game but that is not the point at all. How is it playing? Polling shows we are losing ground. Do you think this will help?


10 posted on 01/17/2013 12:55:54 AM PST by chopperjc
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To: chopperjc

Snap out of it.

Don’t believe the constantly rigged polls. Always consider the source. Leftist pollsters know they can get any result they want and they NEVER have to prove any poll they tout.


11 posted on 01/17/2013 1:00:11 AM PST by Bullish (The stench from this amateur regime stinks all the way to Kenya.)
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To: chopperjc

The elitist left is outraged. The NRA must have squarely hit a nerve. Screw em. Obamas kids don’t mean anything special to me. He attacks my kids 6 ways from sunday, and im supposed to get a case of the fainting vapors over the truth being told about his?
My kids are way more important than his,,,to me.

The ad pisses off the right people, so good job.

That ad was 100% true. And furthermore, it’s tme for this budding dictator to be shown open disrespect. I’m sick of art featuring him as Christ, photos with halos, and of schoolkids taught creepy nazi songs about him.


12 posted on 01/17/2013 1:05:35 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Bullish

That whole un-skewed polling thing worked out so well the las time.


13 posted on 01/17/2013 1:11:48 AM PST by chopperjc
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To: chopperjc

So what? You think those numbers get better by the NRA being quiet and agreeing to a few “reasonable” things?

Remember day 1, they attacked the NRA.
When the NRA was completely silent for a week, they were attacking the NRA for not making a comment.
Then when the NRA did comment, it was, “OMG, it’s the one week anniversary!”
Then just last week NRA said something, and once again, “OMG, it’s the one month anniversary!”

You are delusional if you think anything other than full capitulation would make them popular. And when you puss out and back down, people start to think you have no valid points to make. The way to fix bad numbers is to attack with both barrels, not to try to be liked. Thats a fools errand.


14 posted on 01/17/2013 1:15:30 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

15 posted on 01/17/2013 1:19:22 AM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: chopperjc

It’s you missing the point. When Obama is ruthless, personal, and relentless in the attacks, and we stand there respectfully, people think we have no point to make. People hate a weak response and think the weakness of the response proves the weakness of our position.

A balls out no hold barred attack is what Obama needs. And it’s also the only thing that makes him come unhinged.

Playing rational and nice in hopes of being liked is stupid when our nation does it to the Moslems, and it’s just as stupid when we try it in national politics.

I notice the democrats can attack with wild vicious abandon, and it seems like it’s working pretty good for them. You can tell what tactic hurts them most, because they scream the loudest when we use it.


16 posted on 01/17/2013 1:24:15 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: DesertRhino
The elitist left is outraged. The NRA must have squarely hit a nerve. Screw em. Obamas kids don’t mean anything special to me. He attacks my kids 6 ways from sunday, and im supposed to get a case of the fainting vapors over the truth being told about his? My kids are way more important than his,,,to me.

The ad pisses off the right people, so good job.

That ad was 100% true. And furthermore, it’s tme for this budding dictator to be shown open disrespect. I’m sick of art featuring him as Christ, photos with halos, and of schoolkids taught creepy nazi songs about him.

AGREED. AGREED! AGREED!!!

17 posted on 01/17/2013 1:25:56 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: chopperjc
Opinions polls change. Right now the left has people reacting on the basis of emotion. Obama won't be able to maintain those numbers over time. When people start thinking and stop reacting the poll numbers will shift. Obama knows that which is why he is trying to stampede congress.

Those of us who support the second amendment need to slow the process down and make our arguments - write our legislators, call our legislators and attend events this weekend. Be seen, be heard, be energized. Gun owners represent a voting block of tens of millions of people that mostly don't vote for Democrats. Most liberal politicians may not like us but they sure don't want us aroused.

The fact that leftist journalists have now lied about there being private armed security guards, not just Secret Service agents, at a certain up scale DC private school shows that the NRA has made their point. One of the criticisms of the NRA in the immediate wake of the Sandy Hook massacre was that the had gone to ground. The NRA is now doing what I pay my dues to have them do, present our side's argument - loudly.

18 posted on 01/17/2013 1:26:40 AM PST by InABunkerUnderSF (Because 2 terms with Jerry Brown as Governor was all I could take.)
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To: DesertRhino

I disagree with you, that is fine we will see what happens in the end. I am not advocating copitulation. I am advocating being involved. The yelling from the sidelines seem to be costing us. The fiscal
Cliff being the obvious example.


19 posted on 01/17/2013 1:30:00 AM PST by chopperjc
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bob Beckel seemed to think that because the Sidwell Friends school is supposedly run by Quakers that there couldn’t possibly be guns there. I read that there are 11 armed guards at the school besides the Secret Service. I would like to get the message to Mr. Beckel.


20 posted on 01/17/2013 1:31:06 AM PST by tinamina
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Obamas use their own kids all the time, in speeches and even campaign ads. So the libs can shove it. They have constantly used their daughters to further their own points and propaganda.


21 posted on 01/17/2013 1:33:06 AM PST by FreedomGuru (Without Life nothing else matters.)
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To: DesertRhino

Good rant! Couldn’t have said it better.
Look, people. There is a whole contingent out there who are gonna give gunowners AND the NRA grief. Consider the source/s. You have the leftists who just hate everything and everyone that dares to want to breathe free air. THEY want to control you.
You have slum dwellers who mostly HAVE illegal guns who will insult you unto eternity just because they don’t like you...and might even shoot you for the same reason.
And there are the illegals who ALSO have guns that are illegal, but SOME of them can read so they will insult you as well as kill you.
Any of them will sell you drugs. Many of them think rape is a right. Many of them think they have a right to what YOU own and will rob you to get it...with or without a gun.
NONE of them will be affected by what obama did today or any gun laws that might come down the pike tomorrow. Haters gonna hate. Bad guys gonna be bad.
I will do whatever it takes to see that not a damn one of them messes with my life or my child’s life and if that is in any way misunderstood, try me.
Anyone here think obama’s kids are better than mine? Than YOURS?
Nope. Didn’t think so.


22 posted on 01/17/2013 1:33:29 AM PST by MestaMachine (Sometimes the smartest man in the room is standing in the midst of imbeciles.)
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To: chopperjc

Political polling is nothing more than propaganda. It’s very easy to manipulate polling to get the results a pollster wants. Most Freepers know that quite well.


23 posted on 01/17/2013 1:33:58 AM PST by Bullish (The stench from this amateur regime stinks all the way to Kenya.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Extremist Left Wing is saying that some are more equal than others...


24 posted on 01/17/2013 1:35:24 AM PST by Bikkuri (Hope for Conservative push in the next 2-4 years..........)
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To: chopperjc; 50mm; darkwing104; TheOldLady; Norm Lenhart
sniff..



If you don't get it yet.. we MUST start playing by THEIR rules.. they ALL are all "EXTREMIST Left Wing", and we must say it.. time and again.
25 posted on 01/17/2013 1:45:01 AM PST by Bikkuri (Hope for Conservative push in the next 2-4 years..........)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Confucius say man who take gun receive bullet.


26 posted on 01/17/2013 2:11:24 AM PST by bunkerhill7 ( Lend a friend a gun)
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To: Bullish; PGalt
"Repugnant and cowardly?"
Why that’s a perfect description of our Kenyan in chief, now isn’t it?
It’s also, by no coincidence, a perfect description of the “Wolf!” crying industry that is wire service journalism, known under the alias “mainstream media.” Just as “To a hammer, everything looks like a nail,” to a reporter every sheep looks like a wolf. In fact, calling journalism "the ‘Wolf!" crying industry” understates the case, because of journalism’s “‘Man Bites Dog,’ not ‘Dog Bites Man’” rule, which expresses journalism's preference for the unusual/atypical.

Under that principle, journalism would rather decry a “wolf” which is apparently actually a sheep than to report the presence of a an actual menace. A phenomenon which is on full display in the persecution of George Zimmerman, as it was in the case of the transparent Duke Lacrosse “rape” hoax. Even as, today, the “evil” we are told to hate are the hundreds of millions of insurance policies against violence known as privately owned guns.

And then we wonder why journalists are “in the pocket of” Democrats - for them both, every tragic aspect of the human condition is a “problem” to be “solved” by a Gordian knot cutting “solution” portending worse misery than the original complaint. Democrats have no principle other than going along and getting along journalists. "Surprise, surprise,” journalists promote Democrats and give them positive labels - they started calling Democrats “liberal” in the 1920s, when “liberal” was what all traditional Americans understood themselves to be - and what socialists will never be. Before that, socialists were called “progressive,” because progress of, by, and for the American people is the pride of the success of “the American experiment.” Journalists also call socialists “moderate” or “centrist,” too - and moderation is classical virtue.

It’s why “liberalism” is, as Rush puts it, “a gutless choice.” Repugnant and cowardly.


27 posted on 01/17/2013 2:35:17 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which “liberalism" coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: chopperjc

You’re the one who needs to check the polls again. There have been two polls showing a majority (51%) oppose an assault weapons ban, with like 44% supporting. This was after Newtown. The AP poll is rigged with the addition of “military-style” in their question.

Further, Gallup in late December 2012 showed a record percentage of Americans (74%) opposed to a ban on handguns.


28 posted on 01/17/2013 3:09:50 AM PST by algernon_garnock
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To: chopperjc
I watched the ad. It wasn't stupid at all and there was nothing wrong in the way it pointed out David Gregory and BO’s hypocrisy. BO’s kid's school had 11 armed guards before they started going there with their secret service.
29 posted on 01/17/2013 3:12:05 AM PST by MagnoliaB
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

https://www.sidwell.edu/directories/index.aspx?FirstName=&LastName=&DepartmentTypeID=78&DivisionID=&sortBy=LastName&LinkID=&DirectoryModuleID=341&pageaction=VPFaculty


30 posted on 01/17/2013 3:21:24 AM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: MagnoliaB

Once again, doesn’t matter what you or I think. How is it playing with the country? Did it help or hurt the NRA brand? Watch the polling numbers over next two weeks and you will have your answer.


31 posted on 01/17/2013 3:22:52 AM PST by chopperjc
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To: DesertRhino
The elitist left is outraged.

The elitist right isn't terribly happy, either...

32 posted on 01/17/2013 3:22:52 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: chopperjc
The polls with these results always come from liberal sites.
33 posted on 01/17/2013 3:23:13 AM PST by MagnoliaB
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

BO loves using children as props.

http://www.infowars.com/other-tyrants-who-have-used-children-as-props/


34 posted on 01/17/2013 3:24:54 AM PST by MagnoliaB
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To: chopperjc

I’d say stay away from his kids. I can see Obama getting on his pedestal and saying how dare they bring his children into this issue and the public will side with him and winning it in the public’s eyes on emotion alone.. I’d say the NRA would do better to focus on historical events with tyrants that uasarmed their citizens and the end results. Just my thoughts.


35 posted on 01/17/2013 3:29:49 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: chopperjc
I don't need to watch the rigged polls. I'm watching the sales of guns and ammo at gun shows, gun shops and on line. I work with the public and I know how this is playing in world of the ‘common people’. Oh, and it DOES matter what I think.
36 posted on 01/17/2013 3:31:53 AM PST by MagnoliaB
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To: jsanders2001

The ad didn’t focus on his kids. It focused on HIS HYPOCRICY.


37 posted on 01/17/2013 3:34:40 AM PST by MagnoliaB
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To: DesertRhino

“He attacks my kids 6 ways from sunday, and im supposed to get a case of the fainting vapors over the truth being told about his?”

Excellent point. Besides this safety issue, your kids, and your kids’ kids, will be paying (literally) for Hussein’s actions throughout their entire lives.

“The ad pisses off the right people, so good job.”

That’s what I think, too. If a short statement about his kids having more value than other people’s kids will make a few people sit up and take notice, then good!


38 posted on 01/17/2013 3:34:58 AM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

About time they used my money for something useful...


39 posted on 01/17/2013 3:37:31 AM PST by BigCinBigD (...Was that okay?)
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To: chopperjc

No. The ad was correct. Hypocrisy is hypocrisy. - If you DARE criticize this President, or any of his henchmen; you are going to get “beat up” by a fawning mainstream media. A media that has become just a useful tool for the Democrat Party. - Meantime, the Tea Party, the NRA, and anyone else who challenges King Obama will dutifully be “targeted” and “ridiculed” by the MSM until they “go away”. . and I’m no NRA person. I shoot like you’d imagine a “Twinkie” shooting; mostly hitting my own foot!


40 posted on 01/17/2013 3:59:05 AM PST by Twinkie (JOHN 3:16)
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To: muawiyah

The ad criticized Obama, not his kids.


41 posted on 01/17/2013 4:27:44 AM PST by Bob
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To: Bob

But we all know how the Nazi’s minds work. Distract from the bigger issue by focusing on the smaller issue and kicking up a big ruckus. That’s just how they roll...


42 posted on 01/17/2013 4:29:21 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: tinamina
The 11 armed guards isn't entirely accurate.

Between five and seven are listed as police officers and under DC law can be armed. The other "security" personnel can't be, at least under DC law.

Of course, Sidwell is split between two campuses with just on in DC and it's unclear the distribution of the 11, plus they're hiring another 'police office' position.

From even the Left's gun-grabber slanted "fact checking" I'd assume, yes, there's at least one armed guard at Sidwell campuses around the clock.

On that note, it is hypocrisy to suggest other school campuses should be gun free zone because they don't have the political elites children and grandchildren. Obama was dismissive of the suggestion and claimed Americans were "skeptical" of the idea.

Since we already know he wants to improve plans for first responders and make administrators aware of ways to handle gunmen, it doesn't make sense not to push to have at least one armed officer per campus if he's serious. That puts at least one armed first responder there immediately.

43 posted on 01/17/2013 4:51:43 AM PST by newzjunkey (bah)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Is YOUR child more important than Obama’ kids? Are OBAMA’S kids more important than YOUR kids? But Obama’s kids, because of his position are threatened (Krauthammer). I guess other children, like those killed at Sandy Hook were not threatened, just killed. The NRA deftly points out this hypocrisy.


44 posted on 01/17/2013 5:30:16 AM PST by ThePatriotsFlag (...and to the Republic for which it STOOD...)
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To: chopperjc

I think the hypocrisy of this regime needs to be pointed out and attacked on every issue at every opportunity, including this one. I believe one of the biggest problems the GOP has had in DC the past 4 years is that they have avoided doing so, for whatever reasons, and have ceded all issues to the ‘rats. I like that somebody has finally done it, maybe it will break the ice.


45 posted on 01/17/2013 5:52:48 AM PST by jospehm20
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To: DesertRhino

Yep. If the Kenyan and his minions thought this ad was hurting the NRA image he would not say a thing.


46 posted on 01/17/2013 5:59:40 AM PST by jospehm20
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

47 posted on 01/17/2013 6:03:08 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: chopperjc

You sound defeatists - the NRA ad hit a big nerve by stating the truth of the elitist hypocrisy of Obama. Being polite doesn’t get our side any brownie points. We need more hard-hitting, truthful ads and more “You Lie!” moments if we really intend to fight. Else, all we’re doing is biding our time before total surender.


48 posted on 01/17/2013 6:12:39 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Interesting that the libtards don’t get the central theme behind the ad, namely that armed security personnel are seen as a viable deterrent to those seeking to harm the pResident’s children. If that’s the case, then why is that solution any less viable for anyone else’s children?
49 posted on 01/17/2013 6:14:20 AM PST by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

THE WALL STREET JOURNAL

01/16/13
Weapon Makers See Danger in Cooperating Over Safety

Gun makers see a danger in working with the government that can be summed up in one name: Smith & Wesson.

BY Gary Fields

Ben Kesling and James R. Hagerty contributed to this article.

The article is only available to subscribers.

In summary the writer speaks to the fact that a few gun makers have cooperated with the government and have been basically bankrupted when gun owners chose to no longer do business with them.

Here are a couple of quotes from the article:

“Led by gun-rights groups, dealers stopped carrying Smith & Wessons products, and buyers melted away. the company was eventually sold for a fraction of what Tomkins initially paid.

“If you think you can buy your peace with your enemy you are sadly mistaken and you will suffer a severe backlash from the consumer, one senior industry executive said.”

http://online.wsj.com/search/search_center.html?KEYWORDS=GARY+FIELDS&ARTICLESEARCHQUERY_PARSER=bylineAND


50 posted on 01/17/2013 6:36:28 AM PST by KeyLargo
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