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Will an outgoing democratic gov decision stand on Obamacare when it comes to exchanges? VANITY
1-18-13 | God'sgrrl

Posted on 01/17/2013 9:02:38 PM PST by God'sgrrl

Will an outgoing democratic governor's decision stand on Obamacare when it comes to exchanges for a state? Can the incoming Republican governor overturn this, if a commitment was already made?

TOPICS: Government; Health/Medicine; Politics
KEYWORDS: governor; guncontrol; northcarolina; obamacare; secondamendment
I need help with this question. PLEASE
1 posted on 01/17/2013 9:02:46 PM PST by God'sgrrl
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To: God'sgrrl

You must be from NC (my state too). I keep wondering why our new Republican Governor with the support a Republican legislature refuses to make an announcement on the Obamacare exchange. We dumped Perdoodoo along with lots of her demonrat buddies over their Big Government progressive march towards socialism and I hope McCrory got the memo....

No room for “Moderates” in NC.

2 posted on 01/17/2013 9:18:32 PM PST by johnsmom (I must be dreaming 'cause this can't be real)
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To: johnsmom

Yep - I read this question online tonight, and now I am curious.
We should have answers...

3 posted on 01/17/2013 9:35:09 PM PST by God'sgrrl
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To: God'sgrrl

If you are referencing NC Pat McCrory...I just found this interesting article about one of his new staffing appointments...a lady who worked with Louisianna’s Bobby Jindal (and they turned down federal overreach)

The “Daily Haymaker” commentary read “We take this as a hopeful sign. We have been very concerned about what has appeared to us to be a hesitant position by Governor Pat McCrory on ObamaCare. Hopefully, what we have been seeing is strategic timing by the Governor. He indeed needs talented people advising him before he makes important decisions and this is certainly an important decision. But the important thing is that it does appear that he has selected the right person to advise him on the health exchange issue and hopefully someone who knows how to get the Medicare/Medicaid mess fixed. It is long overdue.”

Keeping my fingers crossed.

4 posted on 01/17/2013 9:44:23 PM PST by johnsmom (I must be dreaming 'cause this can't be real)
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To: upchuck

Your turf ping.

5 posted on 01/18/2013 1:22:20 AM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: Gene Eric

Sorry, I don’t manage the North Carolina ping list.

6 posted on 01/18/2013 3:58:41 AM PST by upchuck (America's at an awkward stage. Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: God'sgrrl

Yes....maybe......What has been done can be undone by successors - especially if what was done was good for the Peoples....

7 posted on 01/18/2013 5:31:25 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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8 posted on 01/18/2013 9:12:18 AM PST by God'sgrrl
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To: upchuck

It was late. I was tired... Sorry bout that.

9 posted on 01/18/2013 10:21:20 AM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: God'sgrrl; johnsmom; All
Hopefully, NC's new Governor and Lt. Governor will prepare themselves for any future battle, ground their positions by studying America's founding principles and ideas of liberty, commit themselves to helping their fellow citizens understand those ideas, and then measure their own actions and policies by those principles.

Taking a principled stand on Obamacare, explaining the reasons for that stand, and enlightening citizens on the dangers to freedom posed by coercive government power, as Reagan did when he explained the implications and threats of "socialized medicine," requires some time for study. Hopefully, McCrory is going about developing his position in that manner.

North Carolina, from the beginning, has had outstanding defenders of individual liberty, one of whom was James Iredell, appointed by George Washington to the Supreme Court of the United States. It is time for such leaders to reappear at this critical time in the history of the Republic.

The following quotation is from Iredell:

"The only real security of liberty, in any country, is the jealousy and circumspection of the people themselves. Let them be watchful over their rulers. Should they find a combination against their liberties, and all other methods appear insufficient to preserve them, they have, thank God, an ultimate remedy. That power which created the government can destroy it. Should the government, on trial, be found to want amendments, those amendments can be made in a regular method, in a mode prescribed by the Constitution itself [...]. We have [this] watchfulness of the people, which I hope will never be found wanting." - Elliot, 4:130

His is an interesting story. Thought you would love to know about it if you didn't already. From the NC web site:

"When the Philadelphia Convention of 1787 proposed the federal Constitution, Iredell was its foremost advocate in North Carolina. He inaugurated the first public movement in the state in favor of the document and wrote extensively in hopes of creating a new government. In particular, he responded to Virginia’s George Mason’s eleven objections to the Constitution and gained national attention in doing so. A Norfolk printer, for example, shelved other political tracts in 1788 to publish Iredell’s “Answers.” The essay preceded 49 of the 85 essays that constitute the Federalist Papers and appears to have been widely distributed.

"At the first North Carolina ratification convention, Iredell was the floor leader for the Federalist forces. After the 1788 convention refused to ratify the federal Constitution, he then wielded his influential and skillful pen to fell Anti-federalist arguments and champion the Federalist cause and the benefits of the Constitution. When North Carolina finally ratified the document at its second convention (1789), Iredell was widely considered the intellectual general of the Federalists’ victory.

"For Iredell’s ratification efforts, President George Washington rewarded the North Carolinian with an appointment to the original U.S. Supreme Court, where he served for almost a decade. (Even before ratification, his acquaintances had speculated that his future included a federal judgeship.) During his tenure on the Supreme Court, Iredell closely dealt with Presidents Washington and John Adams and offered vigorous and partisan support for their administrations. He also chronicled important events and personalities.

"In his near decade on the Court, Iredell wrote opinions in only a few reported cases. In Hylton v. United States (1796), the Court, with Iredell’s concurrence, upheld the constitutionality of a federal tax on carriages, thereby implicitly proclaiming the Supreme Court’s equivalent authority to pronounce congressional acts unconstitutional. In Chisholm v. Georgia (1793), Iredell as the lone dissenter supported the result that ultimately prevailed by means of the adoption of the Eleventh Amendment, which precludes suits by citizens of one state against another state. The case still receives both juristic and scholarly attention. In Alden v. Maine (1999), a majority of the U.S. Supreme Court, for instance, frequently cited Iredell’s Chisholm dissent and considered it to be according with the original understanding of the Constitution, thus, as the dissenting opinion observed, rendering the Eleventh Amendment superfluous.

"Like other justices of his era, Iredell spent most of his time traveling the federal circuits and doing the work of the circuit courts. This work, with the related travel and other hardships, took its toll on an already fragile physical constitution. Worn down by his occupation’s demands, Iredell died on October 20, 1799, at the age of forty-eight. He is buried in the Johnston family cemetery in Edenton, North Carolina."

Donna Kelly and Lang Baradell, The Papers of James Iredell, Vol. III, 1784-1789 (Raleigh, 2003); Don Higginbothom, ed., The Papers of James Iredell 2 Vols. (Raleigh, 1976); Griffith J. McRee, ed., Life and Correspondence of James Iredell, 2 Vols. (New York, 1857-58); Willis P. Whichard, Justice James Iredell (Durham, 2000).
By Willis P. Whichard, Former Associate Justice of the North Carolina Supreme Court (1986-1998) and former Dean of Campbell University School of Law (1999-2006)

See also a Bicentennial of the Constitution (1987) book celebrating the ideas underlying the Constitution's protections of Creator-endowed liberty which was published in North Carolina and recently has been reprinted. A click on the "endorsements" tab of the web site will reveal reactions to the book, including one from then-President Reagan.

10 posted on 01/19/2013 8:41:20 AM PST by loveliberty2 ( -)
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Ooops! Sorry!!! My link contained an error. Should have been: this.
11 posted on 01/19/2013 8:45:31 AM PST by loveliberty2 ( -)
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